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Hmm What about a war or something a guy is running around on fire or something Mercy kills? or his bottom half gets blown off? Is it better then?
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What happened to using these people as research material to actually fix these problems? If someone is a burden some people just want them dead. That's sick.

They could have used Teri Shiavo as a guinea pig to test the accuracy of neurological tests and methods (yes, there were conflicting results from experts involved).

The data would help improve the quality of life for future patients.
And she didn't even have to die! The parents had 3 million to pay for her life support, and enough charity donations to keep her alive indefinitely.
But judging from the husband's insistence that she die, and his actions to retard her therapy(he sued the hospice when they tried to give her treatment) he SOOO wanted her dead a long time ago.

And every time another person wakes from a vegetative state that last longer than hers(two I've seen so far, one of them was in for 26 years!), I die a little on the inside. I've never heard them say they wanted to die while they were in there. And don't get me started on the people in comas.

Just because we can't fix the human body, doesn't mean it can't fix itself.

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^ Did you know she was blind and her brain was atrophied to less than half the normal size?
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Well I believe we're all born for a reason.If at some point in life we are unable to move because of mental or physical disabilities, I don't think we should should just end our lifes like that.I believe in miracles,for God's sake...And I know there's not always going to be a miracle to save us from pain or suffering,But I do believe when the human body or mind reaches it's full potential,it should be able to decide whether to keep running or stop!!
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I read in the news papers a month ago about a boy who was in a vegetative state, or coma I don't remember. The doctors said there was no hope for him and that he was just using the hospitals resources. The parents complied after some hard consideration.

What happened is this: When they turned off the life support equipment, the kid started to breath on his own and he became better. After some time he woke up and there was some happy pictures of him and his family in the news papers.

How about that?
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stheelders wrote:

I read in the news papers a month ago about a boy who was in a vegetative state, or coma I don't remember. The doctors said there was no hope for him and that he was just using the hospitals resources. The parents complied after some hard consideration.

What happened is this: When they turned off the life support equipment, the kid started to breath on his own and he became better. After some time he woke up and there was some happy pictures of him and his family in the news papers.

How about that?


wow a miracle I tell ya!!!
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How about the fact that the media obviously post things like that? of course they're going to talk about rare cases, that's what sells! the problem is generalizing an article like that, 15,000-40,000 people in the US are in a persistent vegetative state. You also have to realize that being in a coma and being in a persistent vegetative state are two different things, many people who are in coma wake up in a few days or weeks.
Posted 1/9/07
not a miracle...the body is on life support, and when it is taken off, it goes into a state of shock, basically...all the neurological systems in the body get a huge shock, and it can often wake a person...ever seen george clooney get the zappy paddly thingers on ER? yes, defibrillators work the same way...its a shock to the system, which can jumpstart it. electricity versus lack of, however that is immensely rare. you heard about it because it is rare...but i bet you never heard of 95% of comatose people who are taken off and DON'T shock back.

and isn't it a good thing they took him off? he would have sat there and basically rotted otherwise.
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There is a Robin Williams movie (not a comedy) that hes a doctor I think its called awakenings. I think, I haven't seen it in a long time, that he finds this drug to cure what these people have (they're in a vegatative state) but the only probleme is that the more he uses it the less it works natural body resistance to it if you will. But thats a good movie if your wondering about the research done on people in vegatative states.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099077/
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I'm pretty for it. Helps lower the population and I think a lot of people in those situations probably want out. We don't know for sure though, and I'm not one to take polar opinions. I think we should perhaps find a way to communicate with the ones who can, like how Steven Hawking does. If they can do it with him, perhaps it's possible for them. From here they can ask what they want, and on top of that they could talk to their families and other loved ones.

while we're one it, this is a song on the subject:

http://darklyrics.com/lyrics/death/leprosy.html#5
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Hmm also maybe this is just me but I always think of it as a guy with 10 days to live due to some illness walks into the doctor, cuz his last 10 days are going to be painful, and says kill me. We're talking about pulling the plug and thats different because the people can't make a conciouse decision. Also why is it when a pet is old and in pain that taking it to the vet to put it down isnt a big deal? I understand its not the same thing as a person but its still part of the familey.
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if i was in a vegetative state, with no chance of getting better, yeah i would want my loved one to pull the plug.
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Acer2110 wrote:

There is a Robin Williams movie (not a comedy) that hes a doctor I think its called
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099077/


I loved the first part of that movie, and robert deniro.

People should realize that todays medicine can do a lot of things that would have been considered a miracle 10 years ago. What's wrong with waiting another ten or twenty years. I can't speak for people who are suffering from pain. But pulling the plug out just because of economic reasons or to give internal organs to other people, specially since the patients can't speak themselves, sounds very wrong to me.

Take the ending in Million Dollar Baby, that is a great example of stupid reasons to justify it,
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Do you guys think "Euthanasia" should be legal?

if the person involved isn't a relative and is/was suffering too much; i'd choose to Euthanasia. However, I will not let Euthanasia be done if it's a relative.
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simpleyesa wrote:

Do you guys think "Euthanasia" should be legal?

if the person involved isn't a relative and is/was suffering too much; i'd choose to Euthanasia. However, I will not let Euthanasia be done if it's a relative.


i agree when it's someone who isn't a relative you don't feel as sad as when it is a relative cause a relativeis a person you knew so much about and it would hurt more. A relative is your blood while the other person isn't. And it hurts your whole family.
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