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Viz Media is the next 4 Kids
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Geneon's disappearance from the American market is truly devastating, but now the next company that might become an anime distro powerhouse looks like it will be Viz Media. They already hold the license to three popular titles: Naruto, Bleach, and Death Note. However, Viz Media does not take the slightest consideration when choosing voices.
We all know how bad Naruto went. Now, Viz media has casted some no name VA for L and one of the worst possible voices for Light. Not only do they lack sufficient experience, but any dub they have been involved in has been either as an extra or an easily forgotten performance. Not only do they not know how to dub, they do not know how to market.
They already have the first 20 episodes available in direct to drive downloads. I can guarantee that you can probably find it dubbed on tv links or alluc already. They did manage to get Death Note to air on Adult Swim. However, they already murdered the voices and what could have sparked a movement for a larger audience for anime is almost just a dream. Thank you Viz Media for killing anime.

Please don't talk about how all dubs suck because I'm willing to bet that you've seen very few dubs and have actually seen the subs first. I wanna see dub haters try watching at least two dubbed versions of an anime they have never seen before and they will easily think the Japanese voices are worse. That's why everyone thinks Dragonball Z is actually a good dub. Their are millions of dubs that beat out the original voices people; just look for them.
Posted 10/12/07
Honestly though...did you really expect DN to have a good dub cast? I know i sure as hell didn't This only further reitterates my belief in the fact american anime distributors are total idiots as a whole.

Haha hell i saw FMA in subs first and i thought it was awful enough to where i dropped it @ ep 7 and waited till i could find the dub somewhere eventually in hopes it would be better....and i was not dissapointed.

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I knew it would have a bad cast ever since it said "Licensed by Viz Media"
I had my hopes though. Bandai went ALL OUT when they licensed The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya. They hired an all-star dub cast, then they completely OWNED everyone at anime expo when it came to advertising. Viz Media simply licensed it and hired the cheapest voice over.
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It seemed to me that Death Note would probably have some of a Gundam Wing/inuyasha cast when looked up who would be Light and Ryuk... but nonetheless, i agree: if Geneon were still around and picked Death Note up, we'd be talking a whole different story. I mean for god sake, L's real voice will probably sound like Batman from the trailer i saw... too bad, i'm still shocked that Geneon has stopped sales and rolled off the map, i mean... they had some perfect dubs like Last Exile, Ergo Proxy, or Tenjho Tenge, you know? With Geneon, i personally felt it was like a 60 hit/40 miss and when it really hit, the cast done their roles spectacularly well. wtf happened with Geneon anyway?
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No one really knows what happened to Geneon, we can only guess and there's plenty to guess from. But that's for another topic, is there any thread here discussing Geneon?

Back on topic, don't you think calling VIZ Media the next 4Kids is going too far, just because of "Death Note"?
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firecrouch wrote:

is there any thread here discussing Geneon?


Yep: http://www.crunchyroll.com/showforumtopic?id=15234 Geneon USA in trouble
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firecrouch wrote:

No one really knows what happened to Geneon, we can only guess and there's plenty to guess from. But that's for another topic, is there any thread here discussing Geneon?

Back on topic, don't you think calling VIZ Media the next 4Kids is going too far, just because of "Death Note"?


Not at all. Did you watch the dub of Saikano? That was another example of Viz Media raping something brilliant. They refused to put in -chan at the end of Shuji's name for one which actually carried some dramatic weight halfway through the story. They love to cut corners and played the exact same credits in the end of every episode. Not that anyone reads credits though right? What's worse is that they didn't even offer any text subtitles. Shuji and Chise read a diary and you couldn't understand what the hell it said. They also have no talent in making a translation have impact. Some literal translations should be tweaked to have a larger impact. Unfortunately, they couldn't even do that.

Watch them rape Honey and Clover when it comes out.
The original voices of Inuyasha weren't that good either, but that dub sucked too.

Also, We do know what will happen with Geneon. They are taking off all their products of the shelves for sale. You can still find them, but any series that aren't finished will have to be picked up. I was on the last disc for Fate/ Stay Night and the whole Geneon thing went down a week before the last disc's release. Now you have to backorder a product that hasn't been out for more than 4 days.
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Posted 10/13/07
It's not the next 4kids. At least they don't cut violence, replace the ost, and add puns.
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You're right. Viz Media is not the next 4kids. It's a million times worse. 4kids licensed what was already horrible. Viz Media kills the good stuff.
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the dubbed really only matters to the general audience of people who know little or no anime

so who really cares about the dub, japan will always keep pumping anime, so were safe, we get it for free anyways haha

i think ur just wanting anime to get better respect etc in america, if u really wanted a sparked a movement for a larger audience for anime is almost just a dream. then ud make a site that streams anime thats nationally advertised to the general public

or.... go bomb viz media >__>
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Posted 10/13/07
I'm really cheap so I guess I'll just have to bomb Viz media.
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if i was a hot chick id cosplay as that chick from death note and with a sign saying to make the dub better id stand in front of viz hq for like a week

are u a hot chick arx, u can do that as well

if not all hope is lost
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The dubs are so so...but i agree that it kills the anime if they aren't actually good choice of voice characters...then say bye to the whole point of anime. Btw first episode of a dub anime always kills u if the voicing is terrible
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This whole topic is ridiculous. That's all I have to say.
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Posted 10/13/07
death note dubbed needs to be brutally stabbed continuously. L sounds like Darth Vadar for cripesakes!

and yes, i agree viz is turning into 4kids...
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