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Viz Media is the next 4 Kids
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Posted 10/13/07
I also agree. *Facepalms*
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Posted 10/13/07
Like I said, this topic is ridiculous. You people are crazy if you think VIZ is "the next 4Kids" just because of a bad dub.
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Posted 10/13/07
I pretty much think people who don't watch subs at all, or barely, think that the dubs we consider lame are fine. Everyone i've ever asked who doesn't watch subbed anime thinks the dubbed Naruto / Bleach and others is fine the way it is. Although it is really lame to me, Viz pretty much hires a cheap cast and translation staff to make more money probably, since they consider the audience of their dubbed animes' clueless people who don't know the original voices of the actual anime. I'll always watch subbed anime, but i see why this can be pretty irritating to people who like good quality dubs, x.x.
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Posted 10/13/07
I've always hated Viz , but I love Geneon , I'll miss them.
Posted 10/13/07
i think it's ok
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Posted 10/13/07
i hate u viz media, this thread is pointless
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Posted 10/13/07
I've only some of the "Death Note" dub through the trailer, and Light sounded lame, not like how imagined him when reading the manga or when I watched the Japanese version. Since it was just a trailer I'll give it a fair chance once it airs on T.V.

The "Naruto" and "Bleach" dubs are fine, the voices fit the characters and the acting is good. If the translations are inaccurate it's fine by me as long as it's in good taste, meaning no heavy bearing on the storyline and if it's a necessity in translating to English. If an English dub doesn't follow the Japanese version entirely and you're pissed you're probably asking for too much.
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Posted 10/13/07
Light sounded so fricken lame. Not threatening at all. I just watched Haruhi Suzumiya in dubbed and wow. They did a reaIly great job on it. I never expected dubbed to be so good.
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Posted 10/13/07
I just saw the Viz media trailor for Death Note. I am a super fan of Death Note and I was there with before the anime even came out. I have to say, List sounds like a nerd and L's little voice-thingy sounds like the dude from Saw (after actually hearing it a few times, I think it is). Light sounds gay and all I heard was L's voice disguiser so I'm thinking he might sound gay too. I mean, Light doesn't even sound evil, just dorky to me.

I don't think Viz is turning into 4Kids. Like someone pointed out earlier, everything 4Kids licsensed was already bad, they just upped the knotch a little. Viz may be making some not so good dubs for good animes, but the fact is, they're nabbing all the really popular animes. People who really aren't into anime so much and that don't want to read the subs on tv like to hear it in their own language so they don't acknowledge the jpn subtitled version.

I have a lot of friends who like animes, but would rather see the dubs instead of subs. They just don't feel like reading. Plus, like I said, Viz is nabbing really popular animes and some people just don't care about whats been cut out.
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Ah jeez, "One Piece" is an AWESOME that 4Kids ruined (thank god FUNimation has it now). 4Kids also did "Shaman King" and "Ultimate Muscle", those were awesome. And VIZ isn't nabbing all the really popular anime, as far as I can tell there aren't that many anime out right that are setting the anime fanbase on fire that aren't already licensed. All VIZ has that can be called "really popular" are "Naruto", Bleach", and "Death Note", what else is really popular right now? Besides, what VIZ licenses is mostly determined by the fact they're a subsidiary of Shogakakun and Shueisha.

Personally, I don't think fans that prefer dubs are any less "appreciative" of anime as fans that prefer it in Japanese w/subtitles. Anime artists never intend for their work to be "read" (with some exceptions of course), and at the same time if you're watching the subbed version you're getting the original version, but not the original "experience". I guess the best way to watch anime is to watch it being already fluent in Japanese, but as a typical native English-speaker, I call myself an anime fan, regardless of whether it's dubbed or subbed.
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Posted 10/14/07
I actually hate the general North america anime market

in the old days Mexico used to get anime direct form Japan and translated it here and DBZ dub is awesome and we got things Uncensored

Now for some reson we are prohibited to get anime (also $$ is a mayor factor) and we get it form USA generally censored also now they guide fromthe english transalation that ends in a mutated DUB and also keep us in big delays with anime episodes, at a lower pace of USA

and yeah i think they will end up censoring things

also since USA has a serious religious complex problems and do not respect other cultures

(just giving my opinion and talking about the companies) the young people for there i know are cool (unless im in Halo 3 online LOL)
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Posted 10/14/07
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Posted 10/26/07
trigun had a good dub. cowboy bebop also has a good dub.
Posted 10/26/07
I`m gonna watch the dubbed version of Death Note later . YTV is showing it .
I`ll tell you guys if it was decent or if it sucked .
Also , Viz dubs are okay / decent .
4kids ... is a different matter .
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Posted 10/26/07
god, i couldn't deal with another 4 kids, though i have to say the worst thing wasn't the horrible dubbing, but the merciless the cuts. I mean in some anime they changed scenes and even characters.

i haven't watched any viz dubs so i can't really comment on them. though i did watch like the 1st 10 eps of naruto dubbed (was that by viz) until i realised i could watch the subs online. the cuts in that were really bad too. most of the episodes were made up of flashbacks of the previous episode. and the english orichimaru is rubbish, especially compared to the awesome japanese one. his voice is the shizz!

not all dubs are bad, i'd have to say adv know what they're doing ( minus azumanga) but i mean look at excel saga, dubbing perfection (except for that ep they go to america, much funnier in japanese ) and bebop was done superbly well well, along with evangelion, nadesico, raxephon (escaflawne only gets points for dilandau's voice actor) etc
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