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How did life come to be?
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ok evolution says that one single celled organism split and changed therby evovling to a multi celled life form. and then from there mamals reptiles and amphibions came along (alot later) but the flaw in that thought is where did the single celled organism come from?


Cells and protiens and such are chemical compounds. I do believe life is a miracle, but we are made up of chemical elements. Umm... good example is Full Metal Alchemist, they had a list of what exaclty makes a human being.


ok then i ask you where did those elements come from?

evolution cant answer that question or even speculate on it thats why its flawed


Upon reading your reply, I have to point out that the theory of evolution is not flawed from what you're saying. What you're trying to get at is, where did the single cell come from, just from not having that piece would not destroy or disprove the theory. I would explain what and how elements are formed, but I will bypass that to say this, all matter is potential energy, chemicals and compounds are bound by electromagnetic charges. So in saying that, basic physics state that energy cannot be created or destroyed. Which will probably lead you to the question where did the energy come from? Which is also an interesting question. I'd like to ask if you believe in god and if you do then why can't both creatonism and evolution be joined?

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there was a study conducted a few years ago testing the conditions of the earth millions of years ago that tried to help explain how life could have evolved. what they did was they took water and heat and one or two other things, cant remember right now since i read this study a long time ago, and pretty much just kept it boiling for a while to simulate the earths condition while it was still forming. what they found out was that a few weeks into the experiment, they had created new elements. and this was just with water and one or two elements found on earth. considering all the elements on earth, the possibility of them combining under heat and pressure and creating those single cell organisms might be high but it could happen. and probably did, which is why we're here. if i can find a link to that study again ill edit this post and link it for you guys who are interested.


So it was all by chance? I guess that would also go under evolution?
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How come no one argues for creationism even though they're voting for it?
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i dont even care tbh
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I exist or so I belive
how do you know you are alive?
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clocut wrote:


ShakuShogan wrote:




clocut wrote:

ok evolution says that one single celled organism split and changed therby evovling to a multi celled life form. and then from there mamals reptiles and amphibions came along (alot later) but the flaw in that thought is where did the single celled organism come from?


Cells and protiens and such are chemical compounds. I do believe life is a miracle, but we are made up of chemical elements. Umm... good example is Full Metal Alchemist, they had a list of what exaclty makes a human being.


ok then i ask you where did those elements come from?

evolution cant answer that question or even speculate on it thats why its flawed


Upon reading your reply, I have to point out that the theory of evolution is not flawed from what you're saying. What you're trying to get at is, where did the single cell come from, just from not having that piece would not destroy or disprove the theory. I would explain what and how elements are formed, but I will bypass that to say this, all matter is potential energy, chemicals and compounds are bound by electromagnetic charges. So in saying that, basic physics state that energy cannot be created or destroyed. Which will probably lead you to the question where did the energy come from? Which is also an interesting question. I'd like to ask if you believe in god and if you do then why can't both creatonism and evolution be joined?



thats silly i do beleive in a supreme being and its (imo) dumb to say that they can be joined. you cant beleive that god created all the animals on earth and in evolution it just doesnt make sense.
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I beleive in theotic evolution
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Evolution.
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we're the last remanents of the specise that used to live on mars...duh
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It started with a bad case of constipation.
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Evolution.
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Can evolution really be relied upon though? Evolution is based on so little evidence that it can hardly be called plausible. Saying that humans evolved from lesser beings takes away the very essence of us being humans. We are human because we are different from animal.
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Can evolution really be relied upon though? Evolution is based on so little evidence that it can hardly be called plausible. Saying that humans evolved from lesser beings takes away the very essence of us being humans. We are human because we are different from animal.


No, we are animals.


I believe there is a difference.Take, for instance, these examples:

Humans can laugh or have a sense of humor. Animals cannot.

Humans have created different types of architecture, such as gothic. [A bird] has created the same nest for as long as documented.

Those are just two off the top of my head so I doubt you'll be convinced, but answer this question for me: If we are evolved, then what exactly are we evolved from? Humankind has always been human, never a "lesser" being.

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saatananhuora wrote:


gratefuldead68 wrote:


saatananhuora wrote:


gratefuldead68 wrote:

Can evolution really be relied upon though? Evolution is based on so little evidence that it can hardly be called plausible. Saying that humans evolved from lesser beings takes away the very essence of us being humans. We are human because we are different from animal.


No, we are animals.


I believe there is a difference.Take, for instance, these examples:

Humans can laugh or have a sense of humor. Animals cannot.

Humans have created different types of architecture, such as gothic. [A bird] has created the same nest for as long as documented.

Those are just two off the top of my head so I doubt you'll be convinced, but answer this question for me: If we are evolved, then what exactly are we evolved from? Humankind has always been human, never a "lesser" being.



How about monkeys? lesser humans? primates?

Wait! If you happen to be agitated at all for some reason (I hope you aren't, I haven't provided enough reason to) just chill a little first... and then think about this point of view:
For me humans are animals that have a sense of humor, humans are animals that have created different types of architecture.

also this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_classification
This is one of those definitions we all have agreed upon to use when communicating ideas with each other, so that for instance when I ask you politely for a fork you understand that I want that pronged eating utensil and not a footwear.


You're right, there is nothing to be agitated about. If everyone had the same opinions there would be no point in debating. I just don't believe that humans could have evolved from a primate. We're animals who laugh? Has it ever been recorded that a monkey laughed at a joke? Obviously not. Now when you're talking pre-history, or pre-written history, then neither of us can really know, can we? However, we can catch glimpses through fossils and other findings. Take for example a cave painting. A painting in a cave took intelligence for a being to create, correct? Then who created it, a human or a primate? It wasn't that a primate drew clumsily and the human cleverly; it's that a human had the brain capacity to create this painting.
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