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God Can Not Know Everything
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Posted 4/13/08 , edited 4/18/08
True, but for your logic to work, there must be a being that is omniscient over God, which would be omniscient over that god, and over that one, and so on. So are you saying that there is a never ending chain of gods that in the end, wind up as humanity as an omniscient being?
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Posted 4/13/08 , edited 4/18/08
God can know though, because if God is last in the chain, than no other being is above God. God is superior, the argument that God might not know if He is made up is a human concept. God understands it, but He knows the truth that He the creator. If God created all things, then God would have created what created himself (a higher deity) but because God created it, he would have control over it.
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Posted 4/14/08 , edited 4/18/08
I'm not in the mood for a long extended response, but I will say this.

The only proof that I can take, that God exists and knows everything, is the fact that our sweet taste-buds are at the front of our tongue. Is it coincidence, that ice cream is made to be licked? COINCIDENCE, PERHAPS??
Posted 4/14/08 , edited 4/18/08
God may know everything but God maynot .

God may fail to look up some of the pages in his documents ..
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Posted 4/14/08 , edited 4/18/08

magnus102 wrote:


Gabcom wrote:

I'm not in the mood for a long extended response, but I will say this.

The only proof that I can take, that God exists and knows everything, is the fact that our sweet taste-buds are at the front of our tongue. Is it coincidence, that ice cream is made to be licked? COINCIDENCE, PERHAPS??

Of course not! Check this out!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4yBvvGi_2A


ROFL. Fucking LOL.

Brb, banana.
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This reminds me of my criticism of Descartes: "I think therefore I am thinking that I am". Actually we do not know the authenticity of any scripture or conception of god, so there is no way of knowing. Even a revelation might be untrue. I am just using this opportunity to name Descartes the number one overappreciated "philosopher" and naming him one that can't think completely logical. He thought he doubted it all, but he could never perceive that there might not even be a "him", therefore his philosophy is completely false. Some of his "logical reasoning" is completely moronic also. Like: if there is a god this must be a good god (really Descartes? Why?).
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music190 wrote:

God was there before time was evan time. He made you weather you like it or not. And yes, he does know everything. Your just jealous.


How long ago was "evan" time. Never heard of it.

Well the weather is currently pretty fucked up, so i would have to say, i don't like the weather currently.

If god knows everything, well he wanted adam and eve to suffer didn't he, since he knew adam would eat the apple and eve would give it to him. Not very nice of him eh?
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God Knows All In My Eyes
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another lame troll.... please at least when you troll make interesting...
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livnique wrote:

God is not human, far greater than anything a human mind can conceive, to think you can put logic into what he/she is, as a human, is foolish


you know this because.....??? I for one agree with Magnus even if i don't believe in a god and, god is just a fictional person that people made up because they didn't have an answer to a question.


and how do you know he is not all-knowing
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magnus102 wrote:


livnique wrote:


_I-I_OIFAILED wrote:


livnique wrote:

God is not human, far greater than anything a human mind can conceive, to think you can put logic into what he/she is, as a human, is foolish


you know this because.....??? I for one agree with Magnus even if i don't believe in a god and, god is just a fictional person that people made up because they didn't have an answer to a question.


and how do you know he is not all-knowing

I logically showed he can not be.


should i repeat my first post?
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livnique wrote:

God is not human, far greater than anything a human mind can conceive, to think you can put logic into what he/she is, as a human, is foolish


You`re smart . I should keep a smart 13 year olds list . Or maybe not . o.o

I agree with her . God is far greater than human beings . He`s immortal .
He`s in the past , present and the future . He knows all and sees all .
He hears all our prayers and grants some their wishes . He`s God , after all .

I`m not going to argue any more than this because not everyone believes in God .
Heck , He might not even be real at all . This is what I`ve been taught and taught to believe in .
All I can do is to trust and have faith in someone I can`t see and don`t know .
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livnique wrote:


magnus102 wrote:


livnique wrote:


_I-I_OIFAILED wrote:


livnique wrote:

God is not human, far greater than anything a human mind can conceive, to think you can put logic into what he/she is, as a human, is foolish


you know this because.....??? I for one agree with Magnus even if i don't believe in a god and, god is just a fictional person that people made up because they didn't have an answer to a question.


and how do you know he is not all-knowing

I logically showed he can not be.


should i repeat my first post?


If he's all knowing, he's not a kind and loving being is he, since he knew that eve would take the apple and adam would eat it and that their children would engage in incest
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Eh my post got eaten?

Nevermind, looks like a bug.
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livnique wrote:

God is not human, far greater than anything a human mind can conceive, to think you can put logic into what he/she is, as a human, is foolish


You`re smart . I should keep a smart 13 year olds list . Or maybe not . o.o

I agree with her . God is far greater than human beings . He`s immortal .
He`s in the past , present and the future . He knows all and sees all .
He hears all our prayers and grants some their wishes . He`s God , after all .

I`m not going to argue any more than this because not everyone believes in God .
Heck , He might not even be real at all . This is what I`ve been taught and taught to believe in .
All I can do is to trust and have faith in someone I can`t see and don`t know .


XD I don't think I'm smart, but it's the same for me
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Posted 4/14/08 , edited 4/18/08

music190 wrote:


magnus102 wrote:


music190 wrote:


magnus102 wrote:


music190 wrote:

God was there before time was evan time. He made you weather you like it or not. And yes, he does know everything. Your just jealous.


WELL THAT ATTACKS MY LOGIC YES SIR!


Please, i'm not in the mood for your "everybody has it" Ignorance. If you want to disporve God so much, than why don't you just write a book?


I am not disproving god, just showing that him knowing all is logically impossible.


Than if God doesnt know it all, than who does? If it wasent for God than we wouldent have the knowledge we have today. Doctors would be idiots just takeing chainsaws to your messed up hip. Ouch!


discovery and research, trial and error

i laugh when i hear of nuns getting killed tortured and raped in foreign countries ... i just wish i was there to say "where is your god now"
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