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Posted 4/14/08 , edited 4/14/08
i would say NO i mean sister & brother getting together? gross
even if it is normal for pure-bloods to marry siblings it still seems WRONG
i mean seriously would you marry ur own brother???
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I say no BECAUSE THEY AREN'T SIBLINGS!! god lord, they aren't.

And even if they were, THEY AREN'T HUMANS, THEY ARE VAMPIRES, BEASTS UNDER HUMAN FORM!! So even if they were I would approve (but not if they are both humans, w/e this is a fiction fantasy manga, 100% fiction i don't give a care).

For more details see the chp.38 summary and Who do you think Yukki really is? forum topics.
from them:


waco99 wrote:

here's a copy paste from the other topic I mentioned:



Excatly, only Juuri, Haruka and Rido (and probably the council of ancients) knew ''Kaname''s real identity.
Even Yûki wasn't (and isn't) in knowledge of that. Now the ones who know that Kaname is the Kuran's oldgeezer (aka Kuran's ancestor) are:

That know about it for sure:
Alive:
Takuma (told so by Kaname in chp.38)
Ichiru (told so by Kaname in chp.38)
Rido (he's the ''master that awakened Kaname, revealed in chp.38)

Dead:
Juuri and Haruka
(raised the awakened ancestor as their own child, in place of the one they lost to Rido,
making believe the young Yûki that the ancestor was her brother
and the rest of the vampire society he was their own son, revealed in chp.38)



May know something or were given hints about it:

Zero (given hint by Kaname at the end of chp.36 and at the beginning of chp.37)
Seiren (under direct orders of Kaname, has been doing spying over Rido and that matter by Kaname)
Cross Kaien (he seems to not know details, but there's a slight possibility because of his involvement)
Ichiô (he's Rido's accomplice)
Council of Ancients (duh, shiki senri's uncle and ichiô are in it)



In short:

Yuuki was born as a pureblood, from Kuran Haruka and Kuran Juuri.
Then she was put under a blood spell by her mother, that sealed her vampire side.

Lived 10 years as a human: her body, blood, mind was ''cleaned'' from the vampire's.
She was 100% human during those 10 years.


Today, in order to ''awaken'' her vampire side that was sealed, Kaname decided to this:

Instead of giving his Kuran blood directly when she was a human,

(which would have caused a more painful awakening and that was the way
Rido wanted to awaken her by giving her his blood by Ichiru
)

He (Kaname) first bit her in order to transform her (Yuuki) to a Ex-human vampire first. (D class)
Then he (Kaname) gave her (Yuuki) his blood in order to ''level her up'' to a normal vampire. (C class)

( after that, she would never turn into E class unlike Zero who didn't drink back Shizuka's blood,
remember, she was just like any other human, all the bitting ''rules'' apply to her without exception.
)


From after she drank Kaname's blood to when was taken to her room:
She was a normal vampire, not a noble class, just a normal vampire.

In her room with Kaname:
During the moment she (Yuuki) was sleeping, from normal vampire ( C class),
she slowly awekened to noble class ( B class ), that's when her hair grew long along the process.
Her body was one of a vampire's and her blood contained the vampire's straruda (what makes them vampires), but the seal wasn't completly taken off, her Kuran blood was still sealed.


And then, when she drank more of Kaname's blood, when she was experiencing her first blood-thirst:
As she was drinking, the part from the seal that was still there, covering her pure blood and pureblood powers,
was completly taken off.

That's when we see the Kuran Royal Family of Pureblood's crest libered
(her Kuran blood is unsealed at that moment, that's when she passed from noble class to pureblood)

And the awakening of her pure blood powers
(the beast that was roaring inside of her, it's one of the Kuran's ability, all Kurans have one ''beast'' inside of them, only them, see Rido's fight in chp.38 to see the ''beasts''.
Shizuka Hiou didn't have one, she would have used it agaisn't Kaname, as for Maria Shirabuki we don't know
and we don't know much about the Shirabuki and Hiou families of purebloods.)




Did minna-san got it? Sorry if I sound rude, but in top of being a Kaname fan and Kaname x Yuuki fan,
it's just that it's starting to annoy/irritate me all the
''kyakyatheyaresiblingsomgkyakyaaretheysiblingsornotkyakyawtfwiththemkyakyakanamesanoldgeezerkyakya''

.....in short: THEY AREN'T SI-BLIN-GS, BRO-THER-AND-SIS-TER,
WHAT-EVER-YOU-WAN-NA-CALL-IT...


EDIT: As for the origin of Kaname, see the chp.38 summary forum topic, the first page may not contain details, but as you go to the other ones, there's more explanations. here's a preview:


waco99 wrote:



well, it's not that kaname is the very first vampire and is the ancestor of all vampires.

he is the ancestor of the kuran family. it means he fighted for the title of king of the vampire race (and that was some time after the apparition of the very first vampire, who was someone else) and by winning he became officially the strongest of all vampires of his time (wich were what are called today ''purebloods'') and the first king and leader of the royal family of kuran.

the story of purebloods and the royal family of kuran was explained in volume 3 or 4 or 5 (i don't remember what volume exactly) in Aidô's memories of when he first met kaname.



oh, that's quite interresting too! thought the bond between Rido and Kaname is different from the one Shizuka had with Zero. Shizuka took away Zero's humanity (well, not the one in his heart as we can see XD) and gave him a new life as a vampire.

While Rido ''awakened'' Kaname from his grave (also that Kaname was already a vampire).
That means Kaname wasn't definitly dead yet (when a vampire dies -pureblood or not- doesn't he turns to aches?) but Kaname was in a grave, (and usually you burry a corpse in his coffin into the grave, so there was a body) that's why i used the term of ''eternal sleep'' because rido never mentioned he revived Kaname, just as Kaname didn't know (well, that's how it seemed) until he actually fought with Rido, that he couldn't deliver a final blow on him(of course he can harm all he wants Rido, but can't give te final blow to kill Rido).

Also, did anyone else notice that in the chapter cover, Kaname is lying in a coffin? Maybe another hidden hint from Hino-sensei...
Maybe it was Yuuki who awakened -or was used to awaken- Kaname from his grave (doesn't the chapter cover make you think a little to the Sleeping Beauty? A princess awakened by her prince with a kiss after 100 years (but of course the roles are inversed here and much more than a 100 years have passed XD).


Thought now I may consider the possibility that Kaname was the last Kuran king,
(the one who came to dislike the concentration of power and thus abolished the monarchy)
since it seems that ''it was his miscalculation'' that alowed one like Rido to be born (lines from Kaname when he was fighting Rido in chp.38).

As if Rido or any other vampire wanting to gain the original blood/strongest blood of the Kurans or becoming a king

(it seems Rido IS a pureblood, but maybe he's a mix between a Kuran and another pureblood from another pureblood family, he has eyes of differents colors, that Rido may be a Kuran only in part may explain why Rido went mad in want of the strongest Kuran blood)

was something that (in my opinion that is) that king wanted to prevent. To prevent the concentration of power and create some kind of democracy between the vampire society and making easier the cohabitation with humans, etc..

but what ever, even so... THEY AREN'T SIBLINGS!




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NO have you read the manga at all till the last released chapter? They aren't sibilings princessryoma!
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it make it more interseting if they are sibling and getting married
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They are not siblings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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callistia wrote:

NO have you read the manga at all till the last released chapter? They aren't sibilings princessryoma!


i agree they are not siblings and why would siblings get married i dont get that but they ARE NOT SIBLINGS
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they arent actually siblings! only yuki was the actual child of Juri and Haruka ...

"It has been revealed in Chapter 38 that Haruka and Juri Kuran had a son, but he was killed by Rido Kuran and so it was easy for Juri and Haruka to pass off Kaname as their son." ...

so yes I approve of tehir relationship!
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they are siblings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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krazy_for_u wrote:

they are siblings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


THEY ARE NOT SIBLINGS!!!
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i did read the manga!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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krazy_for_u wrote:

i did read the manga!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THEY ARE NOT SIBLING!!!!!!!
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krazy_for_u wrote:

i did read the manga!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Go and read waco99's explanation above so you can understand it..
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krazy_for_u wrote:

i did read the manga!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Go and read waco99's explanation above so you can understand it..


agree!!!! go go go
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I think its alright, cuz they arent blood siblings, meaning there is no real connection between the two to say it is bad
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