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Wow. Congrats for being able to put up with him and not completely exploding.


I sense sarcasm. I could really care less if I got out of hand. Hes a kid who thinks he knows what the fuck hes talking about so I wanted to help him get his facts straight.


That's not sarcasm. Anyone else might have been fucking screaming at him like crazy.


LOL True. Well thanks
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@one of ur statements: i personally dont think humans are stupid enough to kill off their own population voluntarily. Also, we DO NOT have weapons that can destroy earth. we have the nuclear bomb, but that could only destroy the outer layer(forgive me for not using the scientific term >.>)

i think if there will be a ww3, the UN would do something about it.

this is all just my opinion tho
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I wonder if WW3 could be the solution to overpopulation and climate change(without the use of nukes) plus a lot of useful things will get invented ....who knows.
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Incontrovertible wrote:

You're a fucking moron. Here it is STRAIGHT from dictionary.com

Democracy:
1. government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
2. a state having such a form of government: The United States and Canada are democracies.
3. a state of society characterized by formal equality of rights and privileges.
4. political or social equality; democratic spirit.
5. the common people of a community as distinguished from any privileged class; the common people with respect to their political power.

1. Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.
2. A political or social unit that has such a government.
3. The common people, considered as the primary source of political power.
4. Majority rule.
5. The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community.



Republic:
1. a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them.
2. any body of persons viewed as a commonwealth.
3. a state in which the head of government is not a monarch or other hereditary head of state.
4. (initial capital letter) any of the five periods of republican government in France. Compare First Republic, Second Republic, Third Republic, Fourth Republic, Fifth Republic.
5. (initial capital letter, italics) a philosophical dialogue (4th century b.c.) by Plato dealing with the composition and structure of the ideal state.

1.
1. A political order whose head of state is not a monarch and in modern times is usually a president.
2. A nation that has such a political order.
3. A political order in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who are entitled to vote for officers and representatives responsible to them.
4. A nation that has such a political order.
2.
1. A political order in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who are entitled to vote for officers and representatives responsible to them.
2. A nation that has such a political order.
3. often Republic A specific republican government of a nation: the Fourth Republic of France.
4. An autonomous or partially autonomous political and territorial unit belonging to a sovereign federation.
5. A group of people working as equals in the same sphere or field: the republic of letters.

Technically I'm more right than you.

I'll state this for you so you can understand. In the Constitution it states that a President may only serve TWO terms. The only President to ever serve more than two terms is FDR and thats because he got the US out of the Great Depression and no one really wanted to run against him. Also he liked being President so he kept running and got reelected.

Even IFF Bush wanted to stay President no one in hell would let him. The military won't do shit for him if his term is up. The people would riot like fucking hell because hes a fucking idiot, at least 95% of the US believes he is and doesn't want him to be President anymore.

Also why the fuck would Bush want to stay as President? After all the shit hes got the US into hes better off finishing his term and letting the shit go instead of taking EVEN MORE heat for dragging the US into what seems to be another Vietnam.

The US' economy is dropping and we are getting even more in debt by having TWO wars which we should just back off of.

Also straight from fucking JFK, "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for this country."

holy shit ur post is long......



Democracy:
1. government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
2. a state having such a form of government: The United States and Canada are democracies.
3. a state of society characterized by formal equality of rights and privileges.
4. political or social equality; democratic spirit.
5. the common people of a community as distinguished from any privileged class; the common people with respect to their political power.


i believe u mean a "Representative democracy"....


Also straight from fucking JFK, "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for this country."


wtf is jfk and i can do alot... but who gives me the change to run the country?... (the country is ruined because of the morons in it... look at Arnold Schwarzenegger... hes a fckin actor... and he was voted for governer... wow...

lastly... were gettin offtopic...
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an object to stop all the wars

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Incontrovertible wrote:

You're a fucking moron. Here it is STRAIGHT from dictionary.com

Democracy:
1. government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
2. a state having such a form of government: The United States and Canada are democracies.
3. a state of society characterized by formal equality of rights and privileges.
4. political or social equality; democratic spirit.
5. the common people of a community as distinguished from any privileged class; the common people with respect to their political power.

1. Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.
2. A political or social unit that has such a government.
3. The common people, considered as the primary source of political power.
4. Majority rule.
5. The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community.



Republic:
1. a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them.
2. any body of persons viewed as a commonwealth.
3. a state in which the head of government is not a monarch or other hereditary head of state.
4. (initial capital letter) any of the five periods of republican government in France. Compare First Republic, Second Republic, Third Republic, Fourth Republic, Fifth Republic.
5. (initial capital letter, italics) a philosophical dialogue (4th century b.c.) by Plato dealing with the composition and structure of the ideal state.

1.
1. A political order whose head of state is not a monarch and in modern times is usually a president.
2. A nation that has such a political order.
3. A political order in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who are entitled to vote for officers and representatives responsible to them.
4. A nation that has such a political order.
2.
1. A political order in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who are entitled to vote for officers and representatives responsible to them.
2. A nation that has such a political order.
3. often Republic A specific republican government of a nation: the Fourth Republic of France.
4. An autonomous or partially autonomous political and territorial unit belonging to a sovereign federation.
5. A group of people working as equals in the same sphere or field: the republic of letters.

Technically I'm more right than you.

I'll state this for you so you can understand. In the Constitution it states that a President may only serve TWO terms. The only President to ever serve more than two terms is FDR and thats because he got the US out of the Great Depression and no one really wanted to run against him. Also he liked being President so he kept running and got reelected.

Even IFF Bush wanted to stay President no one in hell would let him. The military won't do shit for him if his term is up. The people would riot like fucking hell because hes a fucking idiot, at least 95% of the US believes he is and doesn't want him to be President anymore.

Also why the fuck would Bush want to stay as President? After all the shit hes got the US into hes better off finishing his term and letting the shit go instead of taking EVEN MORE heat for dragging the US into what seems to be another Vietnam.

The US' economy is dropping and we are getting even more in debt by having TWO wars which we should just back off of.

Also straight from fucking JFK, "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for this country."

holy shit ur post is long......



Democracy:
1. government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
2. a state having such a form of government: The United States and Canada are democracies.
3. a state of society characterized by formal equality of rights and privileges.
4. political or social equality; democratic spirit.
5. the common people of a community as distinguished from any privileged class; the common people with respect to their political power.


i believe u mean a "Representative democracy"....


Also straight from fucking JFK, "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for this country."


wtf is jfk and i can do alot... but who gives me the change to run the country?... (the country is ruined because of the morons in it... look at Arnold Schwarzenegger... hes a fckin actor... and he was voted for governer... wow...

lastly... were gettin offtopic...


Actually no I'm not. You are. The quote was relevant to the US being a democracy and JFK was a previous President. If you can't even make that simple of a fucking connection you're a fucking retard who needs to seriously bury himself into US history textbooks.

We have the ability to CHOOSE who we want to run the country. Every vote matters believe it or not. Even if someone wins by one vote its the same as winning by a million.

Actually how about I put it in more "simple" terms that you may be able to comprehend a bit better. Considering its from a movie that little kids love to watch it should be relatively easy to understand, "It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winning is winning." Or some shit along those lines.

You're fucking ragging on Arnold when the state of Texas allows people carry guns where ever they want and to shoot to kill if they are getting robbed? Saying hes a shit Governor because hes an actor is like saying that all black people are athletic, all Asian people can draw Anime, and that all white people are two-faced pieces of shit.

Lastly the definition is from dictionary.com so I don't really give a shit what a dumbass freshmen in high school really has to say about the government when you clearly don't even fucking know that the US is a democracy.
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o0James0o wrote:


Also straight from fucking JFK, "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for this country."


wtf is jfk and i can do alot... but who gives me the change to run the country?... (the country is ruined because of the morons in it... look at Arnold Schwarzenegger... hes a fckin actor... and he was voted for governer... wow...

lastly... were gettin offtopic...


jesus christ. you're 15 and dont know who or what JFK is?

and Arnold Schwarzenegger did an awesome job with the Wild Forest fire that took place in cali on jan 08? and at least he wasnt the one who wanted to give illegal immigrates driver's license.
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Incontrovertible wrote:


o0James0o wrote:


Incontrovertible wrote:

Sigh. Reasoning with a child who is either in 8th grade or is a freshman in high school is fucking meaningless and I feel my IQ dropping tremendously.

The United States of America is a democracy, Bush's views are republican.

Also Bush went into the Iraq War because Iraq supposedly were constructing WMD's and went against the agreement.

yes i am a freshie but i can tell u i am way more intelligent than you.... and democracy?.... go ask some1 what democracy means... it means people rule..... republic = people rule indirectly by selectin the rulers... like president and stuff... and usa is kinda more of going toward dictatorship or oligarchy due to bush and his followers and all those other shits in the government...

and yes ur iq sucks in the first palce... so it wont really drop...

lastly... i hope u didnt get confused with republic for republicans and democracy for democrates...

if u did....


You're a fucking moron. Here it is STRAIGHT from dictionary.com

Democracy:
1. government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
2. a state having such a form of government: The United States and Canada are democracies.
3. a state of society characterized by formal equality of rights and privileges.
4. political or social equality; democratic spirit.
5. the common people of a community as distinguished from any privileged class; the common people with respect to their political power.

1. Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.
2. A political or social unit that has such a government.
3. The common people, considered as the primary source of political power.
4. Majority rule.
5. The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community.



Republic:
1. a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them.
2. any body of persons viewed as a commonwealth.
3. a state in which the head of government is not a monarch or other hereditary head of state.
4. (initial capital letter) any of the five periods of republican government in France. Compare First Republic, Second Republic, Third Republic, Fourth Republic, Fifth Republic.
5. (initial capital letter, italics) a philosophical dialogue (4th century b.c.) by Plato dealing with the composition and structure of the ideal state.

1.
1. A political order whose head of state is not a monarch and in modern times is usually a president.
2. A nation that has such a political order.
3. A political order in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who are entitled to vote for officers and representatives responsible to them.
4. A nation that has such a political order.
2.
1. A political order in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who are entitled to vote for officers and representatives responsible to them.
2. A nation that has such a political order.
3. often Republic A specific republican government of a nation: the Fourth Republic of France.
4. An autonomous or partially autonomous political and territorial unit belonging to a sovereign federation.
5. A group of people working as equals in the same sphere or field: the republic of letters.

Technically I'm more right than you.

I'll state this for you so you can understand. In the Constitution it states that a President may only serve TWO terms. The only President to ever serve more than two terms is FDR and thats because he got the US out of the Great Depression and no one really wanted to run against him. Also he liked being President so he kept running and got reelected.

Even IFF Bush wanted to stay President no one in hell would let him. The military won't do shit for him if his term is up. The people would riot like fucking hell because hes a fucking idiot, at least 95% of the US believes he is and doesn't want him to be President anymore.

Also why the fuck would Bush want to stay as President? After all the shit hes got the US into hes better off finishing his term and letting the shit go instead of taking EVEN MORE heat for dragging the US into what seems to be another Vietnam.

The US' economy is dropping and we are getting even more in debt by having TWO wars which we should just back off of.

Also straight from fucking JFK, "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for this country."


word. I owe you a beer to that


o0James0o

wtf is jfk and i can do alot... but who gives me the change to run the country?... (the country is ruined because of the morons in it... look at Arnold Schwarzenegger... hes a fckin actor... and he was voted for governer... wow...

lastly... were gettin offtopic...


holy shit I cant believe this kid? even my 9 y/o nephew knew kennedy was shot in texas by a cunt hiding in a book depository

becareful what're typing. stop thinking that you know better than anyone about the US government. though youre still 15, you will learn the fucking truth.
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agree!!!....we got the nuclear..just imagine if every country let their nuclear go boom!!...
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I'm from Canada. I think there will always be wars as long as we need to survive, even if we've learned not to fight for stupid reasons like imperialism, think water, oil, food... we're eventually going to run out of it because no country other than China is making an effort to limit population. There will be many more wars to come.

Btw, I heard this somewhere before, but Russia alone has enough nuclear to wipe out the entire earth already. They currently have these nuclear bombs underground and can detonate if they want... not sure how true it is. Or was it US AND Russia... hmmm
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Kid, you're fucking retarded.
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Okay, okay, everyone calm down and stop bagging on this little kid. It's not his fault that he's all backward in his thinking because his teachers are failures and imparting actual knowledge instead of baseless opinion. He's only 15, so basically he's just mimicing what he thinks is an informed point of view. Eventually he will learn to think for himself and actually do research (beyond what's written in his textbook...history is written by the victors afterall) in order to find facts to back up what he's saying. Unfortunately he isn't intellectually sophisticated enough yet to formulate an argument beside regurgitating the same thing over and over and stooping to sarcasm (ill used, might I add) in order to try and sound like an authority on the subject of the thread he's posted.

So what can we all learn from this... DON'T POST THREADS IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!!!

Okay I've said my piece. Thank you. Good night.
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World War I didn't start to end other wars. All countries were ready for a war. There have been conflicts, and they had not been settled right. At the time Franz Ferdinand was murderered, no involved countries were actually at war. They just had their armies ready.

As for America's involvement: They wanted to make the world free for democracy (just like they claim to want today), that's why, after the war, president Wilson didn't agree with the British and the French on taking everything away from Germany. Wilson predicted that, if they would do that, another war would probably start within 20 years because the new generation of Germans had nothing left. Yet they took everything away from Germany. And Wilson was proved right.
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o0James0o wrote:


Also straight from fucking JFK, "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for this country."


wtf is jfk and i can do alot... but who gives me the change to run the country?... (the country is ruined because of the morons in it... look at Arnold Schwarzenegger... hes a fckin actor... and he was voted for governer... wow...

lastly... were gettin offtopic...


jesus christ. you're 15 and dont know who or what JFK is?

and Arnold Schwarzenegger did an awesome job with the Wild Forest fire that took place in cali on jan 08? and at least he wasnt the one who wanted to give illegal immigrates driver's license.


No shit right?

on a side note a was reading how the military wouldnt follow bush if he was relected or maybe i misread it... if i did i apologize but the military will follow ANY president even to the death of the country because he is the COMMANDER IN CHIEF of all armed forces and trust me even if you dont like an order given in the miltiary you still have to follow it (exceptions do apply of course but they are few and far apart)
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make 300 Strike Freedoms (or for u people that hate it then make 300 of ur considered most powerful gundam)
then give them to ace pilots that are committed to keeping world peace. these people only fight if there are 2 countries fighting each other. they do not fight to control the world but to stop one army from taking over the entire world.
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