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... Why are people so ignorant if it is for science or for art there are some acceptable boundaries in place. It's not like she did anything illegal. Just let her be the media is eating up her story like the ravaged scavengers that they are.
Posted 4/17/08

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Abortion is about the power to stop someone from using your body without your consent, and limits on it are limits to a fundamental human right. The right of ever person to control their own body is far more important to me than the life of a worthless non sentient. Why spend time crying about some worthless non sentient when there millions of people with aids, people killing each other in senseless wars, and a host of other far more serious problems. I really can not bring myself to care in the slightest.

Sounds like we better eliminate the draft and taxation. People are controlling men's bodies, forcing them to fight in wars and forcing people to use their bodies to fund government programs. Not sure why you think women deserve a special exception from being forced to use their bodies in certain ways in certain situations. Sounds like you don't want equal treatment.
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YouAreDumb wrote:
Abortion is about the power to stop someone from using your body without your consent, and limits on it are limits to a fundamental human right. The right of ever person to control their own body is far more important to me than the life of a worthless non sentient. Why spend time crying about some worthless non sentient when there millions of people with aids, people killing each other in senseless wars, and a host of other far more serious problems. I really can not bring myself to care in the slightest.

Sounds like we better eliminate the draft and taxation. People are controlling men's bodies, forcing them to fight in wars and forcing people to use their bodies to fund government programs. Not sure why you think women deserve a special exception from being forced to use their bodies in certain ways in certain situations. Sounds like you don't want equal treatment.


I do not support the draft, and hold it as utterly immoral. I hold to Locke’s view on taxation. We give tacit consent to be taxed when live in an a nation, as taxation is required for that nation to exist.
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I would like to see this exhibit, as it is one that is unlikely to duplicated. I do not see why you are upset. as these were just fetuses. It is not like they were sentient humans.

I fail to see things in such a black-and-white manner. Let me guess that you probably think something is only a fetus up until the second before the woman goes into labor, or the second before it's born?
You guessed it! Give the man a prize.



Even though I tend to be pro-choice, I support reasonable limits on abortion. Even if an early term fetus isn't a human (and this is hardly agreed upon by people), it clearly has a strong causal tie to a real human life. To treat such a thing in so trivial a manner is absolutely disgusting.

So again, even if a fetus is not a full human, it's part human and deserving of much more respect than this. The woman who did this, or claims to have done it (who knows if she's just lying for media attention) is a sociopath. It is absolutely not physiologically normal for a woman to think of pregnancy with absolutely no emotion like this.


The issue of abortion has nothing to do with humanity, sentience, or personhood. I do not give a crap if the fetus is fully self aware when it is aborted. Abortion is about the power to stop someone from using your body without your consent, and limits on it are limits to a fundamental human right. The right of ever person to control their own body is far more important to me than the life of a worthless non sentient. Why spend time crying about some worthless non sentient when there millions of people with aids, people killing each other in senseless wars, and a host of other far more serious problems. I really can not bring myself to care in the slightest.


AHAHAHAHAH, ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME; LOL.

Not only is your terminology utterly wrong, but your concepts on human rights with established scientific backing just screams how much of a bloody idiot you are.
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Not only is your terminology utterly wrong, but your concepts on human rights with established scientific backing just screams how much of a bloody idiot you are.


Ok I guess im stupid. Whatever.
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No no no, I would say you're just dumb.
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No no no, I would say you're just dumb.


I note though your post lacked coherence. Will you plase tell me which terminology I used incorrectly?
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I do not support the draft, and hold it as utterly immoral. I hold to Locke’s view on taxation. We give tacit consent to be taxed when live in an a nation, as taxation is required for that nation to exist.

Well, then in my opinion you give tacit consent to have your body controlled in certain extreme cases. I'll vote with great joy to have your particular body controlled if it is necessary for the good of society, since you seem to place so little value on the idea of having some sort of obligation to society if it involves ANY degree of whatever you want to call "controlling your body."

Sorry, to be real, the draft isn't going away. Your overly idealistic notions don't work at all unless your real goal is to be ruled by the next Nazi empire or something, at which point the draft will be reinstated by them.

Honestly I think that your real goal is just to justify doing whatever you want to do any way you can, screw society. If you were rich you'd be objecting to all taxation and denying any tacit consent. Most likely the only reason you like the idea is because you think you stand to get more than you lose from it.
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The issue of abortion has nothing to do with humanity, sentience, or personhood. I do not give a crap if the fetus is fully self aware when it is aborted. Abortion is about the power to stop someone from using your body without your consent, and limits on it are limits to a fundamental human right. The right of every person to control their own body is far more important to me than the life of a worthless non sentient. Why spend time crying about some worthless non sentient when there millions of people with aids, people killing each other in senseless wars, and a host of other far more serious problems. I really can not bring myself to care in the slightest.

How about I just play teacher, and highlight some things. Obviously you should be able to pick up what I'm hinting at.
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The issue of abortion has nothing to do with humanity, sentience, or personhood. I do not give a crap if the fetus is fully self aware when it is aborted. Abortion is about the power to stop someone from using your body without your consent, and limits on it are limits to a fundamental human right. The right of every person to control their own body is far more important to me than the life of a worthless non sentient. Why spend time crying about some worthless non sentient when there millions of people with aids, people killing each other in senseless wars, and a host of other far more serious problems. I really can not bring myself to care in the slightest.

How about I just play teacher, and highlight some things. Obviously you should be able to pick up what I'm hinting at.


I am not saying it is self aware moron, I am saying it would make no never mind to me if it was. Idiot. Anyway a fetus is non sentient, and can not think, and that it why it does not bother me. I would support abortion rights either way.
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ResidentEvil wrote:


The issue of abortion has nothing to do with humanity, sentience, or personhood. I do not give a crap if the fetus is fully self aware when it is aborted. Abortion is about the power to stop someone from using your body without your consent, and limits on it are limits to a fundamental human right. The right of every person to control their own body is far more important to me than the life of a worthless non sentient. Why spend time crying about some worthless non sentient when there millions of people with aids, people killing each other in senseless wars, and a host of other far more serious problems. I really can not bring myself to care in the slightest.

How about I just play teacher, and highlight some things. Obviously you should be able to pick up what I'm hinting at.


I am not saying it is self aware moron, I am saying it would make no never mind to me if it was. Idiot. Anyway a fetus is non sentient, and can not think, and that it why it does not bother me. I would support abortion rights either way.


In This Post: lolimwrong about fetsus with respets2humanrights so imgonna shit some nonsense and trytovoid all logic lol.
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Well, then in my opinion you give tacit consent to have your body controlled in certain extreme cases. I'll vote with great joy to have your particular body controlled if it is necessary for the good of society, since you seem to place so little value on the idea of having some sort of obligation to society if it involves ANY degree of whatever you want to call "controlling your body."
No I do not give such consent, as it such a thing occured I would refuse to obey the law a la Martin Luther King jr.



Sorry, to be real, the draft isn't going away. Your overly idealistic notions don't work at all unless your real goal is to be ruled by the next Nazi empire or something, at which point the draft will be reinstated by them.

Honestly I think that your real goal is just to justify doing whatever you want to do any way you can, screw society. If you were rich you'd be objecting to all taxation and denying any tacit consent. Most likely the only reason you like the idea is because you think you stand to get more than you lose from it.


Must be nice reading minds. I wish I could.


ResidentEvil wrote:


YouAreDumb wrote:


ResidentEvil wrote:


The issue of abortion has nothing to do with humanity, sentience, or personhood. I do not give a crap if the fetus is fully self aware when it is aborted. Abortion is about the power to stop someone from using your body without your consent, and limits on it are limits to a fundamental human right. The right of every person to control their own body is far more important to me than the life of a worthless non sentient. Why spend time crying about some worthless non sentient when there millions of people with aids, people killing each other in senseless wars, and a host of other far more serious problems. I really can not bring myself to care in the slightest.

How about I just play teacher, and highlight some things. Obviously you should be able to pick up what I'm hinting at.


I am not saying it is self aware moron, I am saying it would make no never mind to me if it was. Idiot. Anyway a fetus is non sentient, and can not think, and that it why it does not bother me. I would support abortion rights either way.


In This Post: lolimwrong about fetsus with respets2humanrights so imgonna shit some nonsense and trytovoid all logic lol.


You can not read I guess. I don't give a shit man. Either way how I am I wrong on an issue that is 100% opinion? Get a grip dumbass.
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So you're saying, you could post your opinion, and refute others, but cannot handle logical faulting?

PS: I'm sure studies on fetuses all land upon the subjective idealism of "opinion".
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So you're saying, you could post your opinion, and refute others, but cannot handle logical faulting?

PS: I'm sure studies on fetuses all land upon the subjective idealism of "opinion".


There was no logical fault. I explained my post since you were to stupid to understand , and refuse to do so again.

You were also to stupid to notice I was talking about abortion itself when I said opinion, and not the question of the sentience of a fetus. It is obvious they are not, as they can not think. No studies required pal.
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The issue of abortion has nothing to do with humanity, sentience, or personhood. I do not give a crap if the fetus is fully self aware when it is aborted. Abortion is about the power to stop someone from using your body without your consent, and limits on it are limits to a fundamental human right. The right of every person to control their own body is far more important to me than the life of a worthless non sentient. Why spend time crying about some worthless non sentient when there millions of people with aids, people killing each other in senseless wars, and a host of other far more serious problems. I really can not bring myself to care in the slightest.

End of discussion.

PS: Since you can't use "too" correctly, I'll read this one out for you babe. You used your subjective thought process to define abortion issues while stating it to be correct.

Buddy, if you're going to continue to try to refute counterpoints, at least do a good job. You're getting sloppy.
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