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Ken Pachi & Byakuya are both alive, but in an coma state tho. I don't know weather to be happy or be pissed off at this. I was hoping that the 4th Div would come in the War to save the hurt fighters. I understand why Grandpa order Retsu Unohana & Isane to stay in their unit. Cause if they got hurt/killed. There wouldn't be anyone to be able to heal the hurt.

Ichigo sword has been broken in half. I wonder if Mayuri can fix it. But someone mention that Mayuri may fuxed Ichigo sword with Grandpa to become something much powerful.


Would something like that be necessary? I remember when Tsukishima broke Byakuya's sword, and he could still go into Bankai, but that's due to the way his Bankai works. Even saying that, I don't remember his sword needing special treatment afterwards, unless his sword has special properties to repair itself when it enters Bankai.

I'm thinking Mayuri just did a simple repair on his sword, but who knows?

If Ichigo's sword got repaired with Yamamoto's, that would be a little weird for me. I want him to attain more power of his own accord, not getting a hand-out like this.


I know. But I remember hearing that if your bankia get brokin, that is it for you. But I can't say 100% that Mayuri will add Grandpa part to Ichigo. But there must been an reason why Kubo saved the remain of Grandpa broken sword. Also remember that Grandpa sword = Sun & Ichigo = Moon. So there could be an chance tho. Get what I mean.


Very interesting, we'll have to wait and see!
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Okay, it seems you were right, DarkOne. If your Bankai is broken, it's permanently damaged. Renji's Hihioh Zabimaru is still damaged after being broken during his fight with Byakuya; and Ikkaku's is broken as well. They have been repaired, or modified, but their Baikai's power has been significantly reduced!

It seems there may be way(s) to repair it, one of which is holding a strong bond with your Bankai... I still think there's another way, though.

On another note, the Zero Division looks pretty weird. One looks like Samurai type/Kenpachi, and another looks like Love/Chuhlhourne.
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Hm, looks like this time around Kubo might just be starting to make a little sense. Yes this would be a perfect time for some plot advancement.

I'm also with you guys on Juha probably being the grandfather. Maybe that would explain why at first Zangetsu kind of looks like him? Although that would be stretching it quite a bit on my part.

As for Masaki possibly being related to Ryuken, well that would make for some extremely fun times seeing as to how that would make Ichigo and Uryu cousins. Can you even begin to imagine the fun at that prospect? That's one "what if" I wouldn't mind coming true as it would make for really funny scenes at some point. But if anything, it's almost a given that that's how the two fathers know each other, through Masaki.

Lastly, I'm on with Valroque on Ichigo getting more power on his own. I too hope Kubo doesn't just hand over power anytime soon. It's much, much better when they earn it.
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Yes, I know how far fetch it sound. Yet as the same time, if you look at it. It does make perfect sense.

Valrogue, I was right cause like I said. Mayuri has done something along the lines, but I knew there has to be something different. Which in this chapter confirm. Mayuri is an scientist compare to Renji, Byakuya, and Ikkaku, they are fighters. I mean, when Ikkaku was fighting didn't you felt that ' blow' when Ikkaku said his bankai was broken in half.



I don't know bout you guys, but I see an resemblance to few other shimigami that we know of. I thought Byakuya's grandfather would be added in it. I remember hearing someone once state that Isshin could've been an member of 0 Div.

I'm going to take an guess from left to right on who I think they relate too.

1) Marechiyo Omaeda's mother. 2) Love/Chuhlhourne 3) Could be an former ken Pachi 4) SuiFeng's mother. 5) I have no idea.
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wow, I thought it's the first time they show up in bleach manga, how did you know that?
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I'm going to take an guess from left to right on who I think they relate too.

One of them should be the 12th division Captain prior to Uruhara. They mention in the turn back the pendulum arc that she was promoted to the Zero Division. Her name was Hikifune Kirio and she was a big mentor and mother type figure to Hiyori which is a big part of the reason that Hiyori had such a hard time accepting Uruhara as her new captain.

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at the end of Bleach 517, someone is coming. who is he/she? I'm so curious about it!
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Totally unrelated question but I wonder why they didn't just get Orihime to do the healing. Isn't she supposed to be able to heal just about anything? And yes I know it's also an excuse to go the the Soul King's palace but I just had to ask anyway. Also still waiting to see who arrived back there with Urahara damn it.
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Totally unrelated question but I wonder why they didn't just get Orihime to do the healing. Isn't she supposed to be able to heal just about anything? And yes I know it's also an excuse to go the the Soul King's palace but I just had to ask anyway. Also still waiting to see who arrived back there with Urahara damn it.


Good question, I think it's because they knew Zero Div was on it's way. If the Zero Div wasn't coming, they may have.

As to the chapter itself, it actually has me very excited; that is to say, I like the direction Bleach is going in this current chapter.

Urahara is back it seems, wonder if Grimmjow came along, for a chance to meet Kurosaki again?
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It's not unrelated Vis. I was hoping that Kubo would take Orihime along with Ichigo. Cause like I said before there are 4 major healers in SS. We have Orihime, Retsu Unohama, Isane Kotetsu, Hachigen Ushoda.

I had someone asked me, if the 0 Division would train Ichigo. I told him I can't personal know the truth. But this chapter confirm that he will be trained. Cause Captain Bonze called out Ichigo name like he knew what Ichigo look like, and where he would be.

Shutara Senjumaru seem to be the former Captain of the Twelfth Division. Before Kisuke Urahara became Captain which remind me of something. Was Shutara Senjumaru have anything to do with Mayuri Kurotsuchi being in an cell. Before Kisuke asked him to be his assistant.

Thanks to AsahinaInu. I remember bout Hikifune Kirio & I kind of had an idea that she was the fat one. But It make me laugh that Shinji Hirako didn't even notice who she was at the moment unt'l she mention Hiyori Sarugaki name.

So Captain Retsu Unohama can't fully heal Renji, Ruki, Byakuya, so the 0 Division will heal them. So it seem that Retsu Unohama will take over as CC in the mean time.

Also not to mention when Sui Feng was talking rude to the 0 Division. Where weird hair dude appearred behind her. Like she couldn't even detect him.

So that mean Ken Pachi is having an chance to fight again. I wonder what Soul King look like. I wouldn't be shock if he end up looking similar to Ichigo or his father. xD
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Totally unrelated question but I wonder why they didn't just get Orihime to do the healing. Isn't she supposed to be able to heal just about anything? And yes I know it's also an excuse to go the the Soul King's palace but I just had to ask anyway. Also still waiting to see who arrived back there with Urahara damn it.


Good question, I think it's because they knew Zero Div was on it's way. If the Zero Div wasn't coming, they may have.

As to the chapter itself, it actually has me very excited; that is to say, I like the direction Bleach is going in this current chapter.

Urahara is back it seems, wonder if Grimmjow came along, for a chance to meet Kurosaki again?



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It's not unrelated Vis. I was hoping that Kubo would take Orihime along with Ichigo. Cause like I said before there are 4 major healers in SS. We have Orihime, Retsu Unohama, Isane Kotetsu, Hachigen Ushoda.

I had someone asked me, if the 0 Division would train Ichigo. I told him I can't personal know the truth. But this chapter confirm that he will be trained. Cause Captain Bonze called out Ichigo name like he knew what Ichigo look like, and where he would be.

Shutara Senjumaru seem to be the former Captain of the Twelfth Division. Before Kisuke Urahara became Captain which remind me of something. Was Shutara Senjumaru have anything to do with Mayuri Kurotsuchi being in an cell. Before Kisuke asked him to be his assistant.

Thanks to AsahinaInu. I remember bout Hikifune Kirio & I kind of had an idea that she was the fat one. But It make me laugh that Shinji Hirako didn't even notice who she was at the moment unt'l she mention Hiyori Sarugaki name.

So Captain Retsu Unohama can't fully heal Renji, Ruki, Byakuya, so the 0 Division will heal them. So it seem that Retsu Unohama will take over as CC in the mean time.

Also not to mention when Sui Feng was talking rude to the 0 Division. Where weird hair dude appearred behind her. Like she couldn't even detect him.

So that mean Ken Pachi is having an chance to fight again. I wonder what Soul King look like. I wouldn't be shock if he end up looking similar to Ichigo or his father. xD


If it is Grimmjow then my day will be made. But yeah I thought it was weird. You'd think Kubo would've had Orihime go along with Ichigo after they saw just how strong they were. I'm also curious as to why they're taking Ichigo with them but yeah the obvious answer to that would be training. I hope this leads to more backstory on Ichigo's family.
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It's not unrelated Vis. I was hoping that Kubo would take Orihime along with Ichigo. Cause like I said before there are 4 major healers in SS. We have Orihime, Retsu Unohama, Isane Kotetsu, Hachigen Ushoda.

I had someone asked me, if the 0 Division would train Ichigo. I told him I can't personal know the truth. But this chapter confirm that he will be trained. Cause Captain Bonze called out Ichigo name like he knew what Ichigo look like, and where he would be.

Shutara Senjumaru seem to be the former Captain of the Twelfth Division. Before Kisuke Urahara became Captain which remind me of something. Was Shutara Senjumaru have anything to do with Mayuri Kurotsuchi being in an cell. Before Kisuke asked him to be his assistant.

Thanks to AsahinaInu. I remember bout Hikifune Kirio & I kind of had an idea that she was the fat one. But It make me laugh that Shinji Hirako didn't even notice who she was at the moment unt'l she mention Hiyori Sarugaki name.

So Captain Retsu Unohama can't fully heal Renji, Ruki, Byakuya, so the 0 Division will heal them. So it seem that Retsu Unohama will take over as CC in the mean time.

Also not to mention when Sui Feng was talking rude to the 0 Division. Where weird hair dude appearred behind her. Like she couldn't even detect him.

So that mean Ken Pachi is having an chance to fight again. I wonder what Soul King look like. I wouldn't be shock if he end up looking similar to Ichigo or his father. xD


I'm excited for the fact that Ichigo is going to get trained by 0 Div, but what also has me excited is the fact that Byakuya will probably also get some training as well, which he needs for his next rematch.

What you said about Mayuri being in a cell probably because of Shutara, that makes sense, and that also will probably lead to some more back-story, which I like the idea of.

I had my doubts about this arc up till now, but it's looking like it's going to get interesting.

EDIT: I forgot to mention, when Soi Fon got mouthy and that guy got behind her, wasn't that the healer guy? That's pretty amazing, as you'd think healers would have lower combat abilities, so him being able to shunpo behind the Stealth Ops commander without her noticing is pretty crazy. It just reenforces that 0 Div is on an entirely different level than the other captains.
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Shutara Senjumaru seem to be the former Captain of the Twelfth Division. Before Kisuke Urahara became Captain which remind me of something. Was Shutara Senjumaru have anything to do with Mayuri Kurotsuchi being in an cell. Before Kisuke asked him to be his assistant.

Actually Hikifune was the one that was the captain of the 12th division. Before Uruhara the 12th division didn't have its current role as R&D. Any official R&D branch didn't exist prior to Uruhara, at least according to the turn back the pendulum arc, and even if it did it wasnt part of division 12. (For those who have only watched the anime any other references to any form of prior R&D were non-canon filler arc storylines such as with the bount arc).

I'm pretty sure that Mayuri's inner sanctum is nowhere near the 12th division quarters, judging by appearances from when Uruhara was there. I'm thinking he ran across Shutara's old haunt during his tenure as captain and set up shop there. Its also possible that he was her subordinate before he got locked up in the maggots nest(we don't know what if any division he belonged to prior to being locked up), and decided to take advantage of the fact she left for the royal palace. One thing to keep in mind is that we also don't know if Shutara had anything to with any kinds of "sciencey" type stuff, merely that Mayuri is using her old sanctum.
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I love the direction Kubo is taking Bleach finally Ichigo will receive proper training and as far as his zanpakto is concerned he will be able to make his zanpakto manifest again soon enough. This is Ichigo's chance for 100 fold increase in his soul reaper abilities(new attacks) plus Squad Zero probably has conceived a way to allow Ichigo to use all of his techniques and abilities in a more seamless manner.
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Did someone say grimjaw?!
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