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kinda25 wrote:

doctors suppose 2 save souls not kiling it
dunno but am against it !


Well sweetcheeks, think about it this way.

1. We have medication to ultimately create more happiness and extinguish suffering.
2. Doctors are practitioners of medicine.
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therefor: doctors would like to create more happiness and extinguish suffering.
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1. Truth in this world is information we are able to obtain.
2. We are able to obtain information through our feelings.
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therefor: Truth is information we obtained through our feelings.
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1. Doctors would like to create more happiness and extinguish suffering.
2. Through our (the patient's) feelings, the patient has decided that death would be create more happiness than continued living.
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therefor: it is the doctor's right..and responsibility, to create that happiness.
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I know that's really simplified (its not including religion and a bunch of other fun stuff), but that's basically the gist of it.

*squeezes your cheeks* o.o
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Well when you think about it everyone dies. So why prolong a painful existence when the end result is the same reguardless? I fail to see the point in making someone suffer longer because some people can't let go or feel that its wrong. Its not merciful to end torment and cruel to prolong it?
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im semi on both sides. i.e sitting on the fence!
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kinda25 wrote:


excalion wrote:


kinda25 wrote:

doctors suppose 2 save souls not kiling it
dunno but am against it !


Well sweetcheeks, think about it this way.

1. We have medication to ultimately create more happiness and extinguish suffering.
2. Doctors are practitioners of medicine.
----
therefor: doctors would like to create more happiness and extinguish suffering.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Truth in this world is information we are able to obtain.
2. We are able to obtain information through our feelings.
----
therefor: Truth is information we obtained through our feelings.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Doctors would like to create more happiness and extinguish suffering.
2. Through our (the patient's) feelings, the patient has decided that death would be create more happiness than continued living.
----
therefor: it is the doctor's right..and responsibility, to create that happiness.
---------------------------------------------------------------------

I know that's really simplified (its not including religion and a bunch of other fun stuff), but that's basically the gist of it.

*squeezes your cheeks* o.o


uhmm well sweetie let me tell u dat ur wrong because:
god is the only one who can decide when to die because he is the creator
& every creature in this world will suffer because it's part of god's plan, & because without suffering people wont appreciate
a good life . DOCTORS ARE TO CARE NOT TO KILL !
wanna hear more ^^ well some of the pple who r with euthanasia have their own reasons , but they need 2 accept it because
god want that. ^^


What if it was God's plan for the doctor to end the life of someone who was suffering?
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youth in asia

amidoinitrite?
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What kind of god would want you to suffer? And if such a god exists does it deserve our worship? And I end up off topic so going back to topic I'm all for it.
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What kind of god would want you to suffer? And if such a god exists does it deserve our worship? And I end up off topic so going back to topic I'm all for it.


Well I tried to leave religion outta the question at first...because that is an entirely different debate lol

My original analysis is purely practicality.
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kinda25 wrote:


excalion wrote:


kinda25 wrote:


excalion wrote:


kinda25 wrote:

doctors suppose 2 save souls not kiling it
dunno but am against it !


Well sweetcheeks, think about it this way.

1. We have medication to ultimately create more happiness and extinguish suffering.
2. Doctors are practitioners of medicine.
----
therefor: doctors would like to create more happiness and extinguish suffering.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Truth in this world is information we are able to obtain.
2. We are able to obtain information through our feelings.
----
therefor: Truth is information we obtained through our feelings.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Doctors would like to create more happiness and extinguish suffering.
2. Through our (the patient's) feelings, the patient has decided that death would be create more happiness than continued living.
----
therefor: it is the doctor's right..and responsibility, to create that happiness.
---------------------------------------------------------------------

I know that's really simplified (its not including religion and a bunch of other fun stuff), but that's basically the gist of it.

*squeezes your cheeks* o.o


uhmm well sweetie let me tell u dat ur wrong because:
god is the only one who can decide when to die because he is the creator
& every creature in this world will suffer because it's part of god's plan, & because without suffering people wont appreciate
a good life . DOCTORS ARE TO CARE NOT TO KILL !
wanna hear more ^^ well some of the pple who r with euthanasia have their own reasons , but they need 2 accept it because
god want that. ^^


What if it was God's plan for the doctor to end the life of someone who was suffering?


u cant say that , how do u know that god want the doctor 2 end the person's life ??haaa
& like i said doctors r not there to kill , they need 2 do their best 2 help the suffering person & find ways 2 solve his problems
some pple think that dying will make them happy, but this is wrong , dying wont make any 1 happy, got it



hun, if I cant say it was God's plan to end a certain person's life, then you cant say it was his plan to not let the doctor kill that person, since you cant know his plan either, right? o.o

Also...our technology in medication isn't really as advanced as you'd think. Sometimes its impossible to help the person in pain. (plus, wouldn't 'helping the person in pain' also be against God's plan if God wanted us to suffer?)

And..I understand what you're saying about dying not making anyone happy but...when you are in that much pain..you dont really want happiness anymore..you just want it to be over. Its sad, but its true =(
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kinda25 wrote:


excalion wrote:


kinda25 wrote:


excalion wrote:


kinda25 wrote:


excalion wrote:


kinda25 wrote:

doctors suppose 2 save souls not kiling it
dunno but am against it !


Well sweetcheeks, think about it this way.

1. We have medication to ultimately create more happiness and extinguish suffering.
2. Doctors are practitioners of medicine.
----
therefor: doctors would like to create more happiness and extinguish suffering.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Truth in this world is information we are able to obtain.
2. We are able to obtain information through our feelings.
----
therefor: Truth is information we obtained through our feelings.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Doctors would like to create more happiness and extinguish suffering.
2. Through our (the patient's) feelings, the patient has decided that death would be create more happiness than continued living.
----
therefor: it is the doctor's right..and responsibility, to create that happiness.
---------------------------------------------------------------------

I know that's really simplified (its not including religion and a bunch of other fun stuff), but that's basically the gist of it.

*squeezes your cheeks* o.o


uhmm well sweetie let me tell u dat ur wrong because:
god is the only one who can decide when to die because he is the creator
& every creature in this world will suffer because it's part of god's plan, & because without suffering people wont appreciate
a good life . DOCTORS ARE TO CARE NOT TO KILL !
wanna hear more ^^ well some of the pple who r with euthanasia have their own reasons , but they need 2 accept it because
god want that. ^^


What if it was God's plan for the doctor to end the life of someone who was suffering?


u cant say that , how do u know that god want the doctor 2 end the person's life ??haaa
& like i said doctors r not there to kill , they need 2 do their best 2 help the suffering person & find ways 2 solve his problems
some pple think that dying will make them happy, but this is wrong , dying wont make any 1 happy, got it



hun, if I cant say it was God's plan to end a certain person's life, then you cant say it was his plan to not let the doctor kill that person, since you cant know his plan either, right? o.o

Also...our technology in medication isn't really as advanced as you'd think. Sometimes its impossible to help the person in pain. (plus, wouldn't 'helping the person in pain' also be against God's plan if God wanted us to suffer?)

And..I understand what you're saying about dying not making anyone happy but...when you are in that much pain..you dont really want happiness anymore..you just want it to be over. Its sad, but its true =(



every 1 in here is thinking of death , why should we think of it , well let me tell u that am following wats my
holly book tells me 2 do , & i believe in everything in it & i believe in god & he is the only 1
who tells us wat 2 do coz he's the one who created us all , u say that the religoin has nothing 2 do
with this , but it does , a person with no religoin in nothing , u need 2 read alot & then talk ....
anyway that was ur opinion , but i just told u , & at the end it's u who decide wat 2 do ^^


I think its kind of hard for you to understand where I'm coming from since..I'm assuming english isn't your first language.

Oh well, I'll just leave it at what you said, since I really dont want to argue with you. If you were a guy, I'd totally flame you right now..but I dont want to lose those cute cheeks of yours to squeeze =3
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kinda25 wrote:


excalion wrote:


kinda25 wrote:


excalion wrote:


kinda25 wrote:


excalion wrote:


kinda25 wrote:


excalion wrote:


kinda25 wrote:

doctors suppose 2 save souls not kiling it
dunno but am against it !


Well sweetcheeks, think about it this way.

1. We have medication to ultimately create more happiness and extinguish suffering.
2. Doctors are practitioners of medicine.
----
therefor: doctors would like to create more happiness and extinguish suffering.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Truth in this world is information we are able to obtain.
2. We are able to obtain information through our feelings.
----
therefor: Truth is information we obtained through our feelings.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Doctors would like to create more happiness and extinguish suffering.
2. Through our (the patient's) feelings, the patient has decided that death would be create more happiness than continued living.
----
therefor: it is the doctor's right..and responsibility, to create that happiness.
---------------------------------------------------------------------

I know that's really simplified (its not including religion and a bunch of other fun stuff), but that's basically the gist of it.

*squeezes your cheeks* o.o


uhmm well sweetie let me tell u dat ur wrong because:
god is the only one who can decide when to die because he is the creator
& every creature in this world will suffer because it's part of god's plan, & because without suffering people wont appreciate
a good life . DOCTORS ARE TO CARE NOT TO KILL !
wanna hear more ^^ well some of the pple who r with euthanasia have their own reasons , but they need 2 accept it because
god want that. ^^


What if it was God's plan for the doctor to end the life of someone who was suffering?


u cant say that , how do u know that god want the doctor 2 end the person's life ??haaa
& like i said doctors r not there to kill , they need 2 do their best 2 help the suffering person & find ways 2 solve his problems
some pple think that dying will make them happy, but this is wrong , dying wont make any 1 happy, got it



hun, if I cant say it was God's plan to end a certain person's life, then you cant say it was his plan to not let the doctor kill that person, since you cant know his plan either, right? o.o

Also...our technology in medication isn't really as advanced as you'd think. Sometimes its impossible to help the person in pain. (plus, wouldn't 'helping the person in pain' also be against God's plan if God wanted us to suffer?)

And..I understand what you're saying about dying not making anyone happy but...when you are in that much pain..you dont really want happiness anymore..you just want it to be over. Its sad, but its true =(



every 1 in here is thinking of death , why should we think of it , well let me tell u that am following wats my
holly book tells me 2 do , & i believe in everything in it & i believe in god & he is the only 1
who tells us wat 2 do coz he's the one who created us all , u say that the religoin has nothing 2 do
with this , but it does , a person with no religoin in nothing , u need 2 read alot & then talk ....
anyway that was ur opinion , but i just told u , & at the end it's u who decide wat 2 do ^^


I think its kind of hard for you to understand where I'm coming from since..I'm assuming english isn't your first language.

Oh well, I'll just leave it at what you said, since I really dont want to argue with you. If you were a guy, I'd totally flame you right now..but I dont want to lose those cute cheeks of yours to squeeze =3



waaah ur scared of arguing with me & so wat if english is not my first language, i prefer japanese,& wat's up with my cheeks=.=
never talk about my cheeks again u understand , they r not 4 u , they r 4 some 1 else



Well I dont wanna argue with you more because well, its already hard to express yourself clearly over the internet, and especially so if the person reading what you write isn't completely fluent in your language.

and uh...I was talking about squeezing your cheeks in another thread and you seemed to like it so...meh oh well guess you forgot about it. Either way it was a compliment.

Case in point to what I was just talking about with language, I'm almost certain you didn't mean to...hmm...be offensive when you said "never talk about my cheeks again u understand , they r not 4 u , they r 4 some 1 else " but that sentence structure is quite offensive.

That's why I dont want to argue with anyone (not just you) who isn't completely fluent in the language we're using..especially about something like religion where its a "tread with caution" area to begin with.

I hope you understand..and I'll stop talking about your cheeks, sorry.
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As long as they get permission for it, its fine with me

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i think its ok.it really depends on the person or person's relative if he/she'd want euthanasia. e.g. removing life support (mechanical ventilator,etc). maybe its really that person's time. and if it isnt?well..he/she may survive but that person will spent most of her/his life visiting the hospital,receiving treatments..and who knows,after eventually being revived, he/she may only last for some days. so better put him/her to rest..especially with people whose conditions are worse..
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way against it! because...it's kiling and even though that person might die anyway...might as well live until they actually die because you'll never know a miracle might happen:-)
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i think it's fine if the family would like to lessen the pain that the patient is suffering.. however, it should not be misused...
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