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What I think about "Girls" in Shoujo Manga's...how about you?
Posted 6/26/10 , edited 6/26/10
Honestly as a man and a Shojo manga fan there's a huge difference I feel between a character who comes off as weak but is strong internally like Tohru Honda and a character who is just spineless like Hatsumi from Hot Gimmick. Also I don't find men over powering women the least bit attractive and to make that assertion about men in general borders on Misandry(if this was ment asomekind ofjoke it's not funny). There are also a good amount of strong female charcters in Shojo manga such as Nana Osaki from Nana, Utena from Revolutionary Girl Utena, Sakura from Cardcaptor Sakura. and Hikaru Shidou from Magic Knight Rayearth.

There is IMHO some painting with far to broad of a brush I also think where forgetting the leaps and bounds as an art form Shojo made thanks to the Year 24 Group (all though I think some of the innocence was lost in the genre because of them.)

Sure not all the women characters are strong but who says they need to be? Not all women are strong and some need protecting or you want to see no harm come to them but I guess that's more about Moe then Shojo not to step on anybodie's toes but I hear these same kind of arguments all the time. I am not denying that there are Shojo mangas that could be considered insulting to women (pertinent examples being Black Bird and Hot Gimick.)

There's also different kinds of strength that a woman can have take Emma from Emma: A Victorian romance for instance instead of just running off at the handle with her emtions with a relationship that may not work she goes out of her way to move on and be a realist about the whole situation

Or there's Maya Kitajima from Glass Mask who's single-minded devotion to the craft of acting shows an inner strength behind an otherwise plain and unassuming exterior and there's Masumi from The Swan also as another example.





Posted 6/26/10 , edited 6/26/10

HollyIvy wrote:

they're all BLOND!!! i'm telling you, it's not possible for half of japan's population to be foriegn.

Read this it'll be worth it I used to make that same assertion untill I learned different by reading this article
The Face of the Other

By Matt Thorn


http://www.matt-thorn.com/mangagaku/faceoftheother.html
Posted 6/26/10

riavan wrote:

I don't know how it is in Japan, but maybe its a social trend there to like quiet well-behaved girls?
Sounds totally boring to me.




It's called the Yamato nadeshiko ideal it's been around for a really long time a good Manga or Anime example would be Aoi Sakuraba from Ai Yori Aoshi.
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i love reading shojou manga....
idk why but when it coems to the romance part i go like "SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTT O___________O -staresss
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Sometimes I feel that they are too reckless, and they do seem weak.
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I like manga with strong girl protagonist, not weak ones. >.<
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omg you're so right! and worst part is they're also mary sues! by that i mean everyone falls in love with them and it's just so annoying at how ridiculous that is, because who could like such a foolish, weak person? it's exactly why i rarely like shoujo >.> when i think about it though even in the ones i like the girls are still like that (Tokyo Mew Mew is the best example ever)
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Parsifal wrote:

Honestly as a man and a Shojo manga fan there's a huge difference I feel between a character who comes off as weak but is strong internally like Tohru Honda and a character who is just spineless like Hatsumi from Hot Gimmick. Also I don't find men over powering women the least bit attractive and to make that assertion about men in general borders on Misandry(if this was ment asomekind ofjoke it's not funny). There are also a good amount of strong female charcters in Shojo manga such as Nana Osaki from Nana, Utena from Revolutionary Girl Utena, Sakura from Cardcaptor Sakura. and Hikaru Shidou from Magic Knight Rayearth.

There is IMHO some painting with far to broad of a brush I also think where forgetting the leaps and bounds as an art form Shojo made thanks to the Year 24 Group (all though I think some of the innocence was lost in the genre because of them.)

Sure not all the women characters are strong but who says they need to be? Not all women are strong and some need protecting or you want to see no harm come to them but I guess that's more about Moe then Shojo not to step on anybodie's toes but I hear these same kind of arguments all the time. I am not denying that there are Shojo mangas that could be considered insulting to women (pertinent examples being Black Bird and Hot Gimick.)

There's also different kinds of strength that a woman can have take Emma from Emma: A Victorian romance for instance instead of just running off at the handle with her emtions with a relationship that may not work she goes out of her way to move on and be a realist about the whole situation

Or there's Maya Kitajima from Glass Mask who's single-minded devotion to the craft of acting shows an inner strength behind an otherwise plain and unassuming exterior and there's Masumi from The Swan also as another example.







you read "Swan" manga?
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Yes!
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