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Here's a place to discuss Blade-Wielding Warriors in Anime and History. Ask questions, have friendly debates, or just put in your 2cents.

To provide for a decent discussion, I have to ask that aside from questions, all entries should be atleast a small paragraph long.


Here's to get things going;

My general question is; Why ninja? They are often found to be blade-wielding warriors when in fact they are not warriors at all.

I must state that there's a mighty contrast between Fantasy and Reality here.

Fantasy ninja can jump 10 feet in the air, teleport around, can walk on water and cast spells, carry straight single edged swords and can throw kunai and shuriken like they are knives. Fantasy ninjutsu consists of magic and assassin arts.

Real ninja are spies. Not assassins. They are not mystical nor do they carry weapons at all. In reality kunai are trowels, not knives (they have no sharp point nor blade) and shuriken are either flat square pieces of scrap metal which aren't sharp and not used to kill or are sharply pointed darts and are used by Samurai, not ninja. Real ninjutsu consists of espionage, disguise, and infiltration arts and contains no martial (fighting) arts at all. Real ninja or more properly "Shinobi no mono" are usually peasants who are employed to listen in on what someone says. In the sengoku jidai, schools teaching arts such as Disguise making, Infiltration, Acting and Listening techniques sprung up institutionalizing ninjutsu. These Sengoku-jidai ninja more so dressed as servants or old monks to walk about unnoticed in the open rather than the black Sho-Kosugi "Ninja Outfit" which was actually a puppeteer's costume which was far more rarely used.
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Ice_Blue_Eyes wrote:

Here's a place to discuss Blade-Wielding Warriors in Anime and History. Ask questions, have friendly debates, or just put in your 2cents.

To provide for a decent discussion, I have to ask that aside from questions, all entries should be atleast a small paragraph long.


Here's to get things going;

My general question is; Why ninja? They are often found to be blade-wielding warriors when in fact they are not warriors at all.

I must state that there's a mighty contrast between Fantasy and Reality here.

Fantasy ninja can jump 10 feet in the air, teleport around, can walk on water and cast spells, carry straight single edged swords and can throw kunai and shuriken like they are knives. Fantasy ninjutsu consists of magic and assassin arts.

Real ninja are spies. Not assassins. They are not mystical nor do they carry weapons at all. In reality kunai are trowels, not knives (they have no sharp point nor blade) and shuriken are either flat square pieces of scrap metal which aren't sharp and not used to kill or are sharply pointed darts and are used by Samurai, not ninja. Real ninjutsu consists of espionage, disguise, and infiltration arts and contains no martial (fighting) arts at all. Real ninja or more properly "Shinobi no mono" are usually peasants who are employed to listen in on what someone says. In the sengoku jidai, schools teaching arts such as Disguise making, Infiltration, Acting and Listening techniques sprung up institutionalizing ninjutsu. These Sengoku-jidai ninja more so dressed as servants or old monks to walk about unnoticed in the open rather than the black Sho-Kosugi "Ninja Outfit" which was actually a puppeteer's costume which was far more rarely used.


Fanstasy ninja ??? lol i guess your talking about naruto i never seen or heard of real ninjas the only seen ninjas in anime and video games. the show ''Ninja warrior'' is cool but those guys only jump though heardals there were probly ninjas in japan a long times ago or somthin i don't know. i think ninjas are cool tho but i like swordsmen/samurai little bit better.
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Posted 4/21/08
Real ninja were spies. Usually disguised as monks or servants and they simple listen in on people.
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Posted 4/22/08
i bet real ninjas can't do the stuff u see on tv
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desfines07 wrote:

i bet real ninjas can't do the stuff u see on tv



that's exactly why there made up
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GZ_anime-manga wrote:


desfines07 wrote:

i bet real ninjas can't do the stuff u see on tv



that's exactly why there made up


anywayyyy im getting a per kantas
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cool i want to get some
i might be able to convince my dad to get me some
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just go to http://www.trueswords.com and pick some out.
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but i still need to convince my dad to get it for me
i do live at his house and im under age
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GZ_anime-manga wrote:

but i still need to convince my dad to get it for me
i do live at his house and im under age


tell em you need em for show & tell, at school
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yahhhhhh that would work
but only if they were aloud in school
im pretty sure i can convince him though
i mean i do have a dagger
so id basically be getting a bigger dagger (in the eyes of my mom & sisters)
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GZ_anime-manga wrote:

yahhhhhh that would work
but only if they were aloud in school
im pretty sure i can convince him though
i mean i do have a dagger
so id basically be getting a bigger dagger (in the eyes of my mom & sisters)


oOOps i forgot about school rules even if you do get some, they still wont be better then minds
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hey are you starting another argument with me
well if you are then
yes they will
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GZ_anime-manga wrote:

hey are you starting another argument with me
well if you are then
yes they will


no i was just sayin
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