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Do Great People Make History or Does History Make Great People?
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Posted 4/23/08
- history is not recorded by historians, sometimes told, but not recorded
- courage do not make a great leader
- if someone great wasn't in it doesn't mean that another one would be. If Caesar had been forced to stay by his creditors instead of going to France, Pompey would have run things. Great people do not necessarily come into power, even if they are needed. There is no rules in history, nothing that automatically happens.
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Posted 4/23/08
People make History, but Cultural events make the man like Martin Luther King.
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Posted 4/23/08 , edited 4/23/08
This question is posed in such a way that it assumes the two are mutually exclusive. It seems to me that this is more or less a genetics vs. environment issue, and we know very well that both elements play a role in shaping the individual.

Generally, however, I believe environment has a larger influence on the individual than genetics, so I would opt for history making great people.

It should also be noted that both history and the very concept of a "great person" are defined by people, not inherent to the history or individual in question.
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Posted 4/23/08

Incontrovertible wrote:


YouAreDumb wrote:

There is no history. There are just random events Chuck Norris allows to occur.


You're a fucking idiot and Chuck Norris is a middle aged man who needs to hurry up and fucking croak.

Great leaders are born. You could propose the issue that comes with people standing up for others and speaking out when they are pressured, but that is kind of 50/50. Since normal people are not born with that courageousness and bravery whilst some are and use that to lead others.


It was a joke. Don't be such a rude prick.
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Posted 4/23/08
The world is not going to change itself, its the inhabitants that change it
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Posted 4/23/08

YouAreDumb wrote:


Incontrovertible wrote:


YouAreDumb wrote:

There is no history. There are just random events Chuck Norris allows to occur.


You're a fucking idiot and Chuck Norris is a middle aged man who needs to hurry up and fucking croak.

Great leaders are born. You could propose the issue that comes with people standing up for others and speaking out when they are pressured, but that is kind of 50/50. Since normal people are not born with that courageousness and bravery whilst some are and use that to lead others.


It was a joke. Don't be such a rude prick.


I hate Chuck Norris ._. I swear somehow he became famous over night.
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Posted 4/25/08
I think History makes people great... because history has been acknowledge here and there making the person involve great and well-known...
Posted 4/25/08
Personally I believe individual people have a lot less influence over events than they are usually given credit for. For example WWII. Everyone knows the basics which is usually the world vs. Hitler + allies. Hitler did play a large part in events but without support from other people, such as the coalition government at the time, he would never have been able to get into power. That does not mean WWII may never have happened. There were plenty of Hitler's followers who had the same ideals and goals as he did, Hitler just happened to be there and took the opportunity.

Usually recorded history ends up focusing on certain individuals in events even though there were dozens of other people involved with just as much influence and effect. Its just about being in the right place at the right time.
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Posted 4/27/08
people make history
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Posted 5/3/08
People made histroy..... thats for sure
However.... people also learn from histroy
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wow this is so weird.........i just took a 6 hour long test and on one of the parts i had to write an essay on this question
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Posted 5/4/08
peole make history, events are the reactions that made by their actions.
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Posted 5/4/08
definitely.. People do make history.....
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Posted 5/4/08
Events can happen without the help of people. For instance, a fire or a volcanic eruption. An eclipse may bring on superstition. Granted, these things have no particular but the immideate effect (like death and destruction), people are able to for instance stop the fire or not be taken by superstition, but it seems bizarre to call them man-made. Events can happen without purpose. And what about insanity? Even if an insane person controls events and development of events, it is a little bit artificial to say this person is in control of it, because subject is not in control of itself. It is hard to identify where the line between people and specific subjects go, for instance when there is mass hysteria, but also leadership. A lot of things must be taken into account, even how a person is feeling. Cortez avoided a meeting with a leader because he felt queasy that day. This may or may not have an effect.

People do not necessarily learn from history. History may be told objectively (usually not, at least not completely), but our conception of it is usually subjective. And what is there to learn? How do you learn from history? Can you truly draw any learning from it? Society is always changing, so is ethics, government, politics, administration, et cetera. Even if you read about something happening in country a in year x, do you know if it is comparable today in your country? What have we learned from history? Our own ideals will twist the facts for us. Will you see a truth you don't want to see? Or will you "interpret"? To draw knowledge from history, except for the objective facts, are conclusions, analysis, philosophy, that may all be falsehood or part truths.
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Posted 5/4/08
Stupid people make history .
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