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Do you think western news networks are racist against Asians?
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Posted 4/22/08

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I dont watch the news... lying maniacal pricks are just trying to keep you in the dark by lying to you.


haha i agree. they just give you the tip of the iceberg, especially if its news involving the government.
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DRO1 wrote:

I dont watch the news... lying maniacal pricks are just trying to keep you in the dark by lying to you.


haha i agree. they just give you the tip of the iceberg, especially if its news involving the government.


i hope you understand that they can only report what the government tells them

other than that, i don't think the media is rascist towards asians as much as blacks and latinos. we all remember the katrina "looting" incident don't we? i've never seen anything on such a grand scale as that
Posted 4/22/08

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ChickenPrincess wrote:

YES! Also for those of you living in Canada. There was this one government official who was so racist. He was like "The Chinese people work like dogs!" and I was like..."HELL NO YOU DID NOT JUST SAY THAT!" I get offended really easily so...yeah xD


wot's d name of dat prick? comparing us to dogs?!! dat's bang out of order!


Aigoo i forgot! He was on CP24 toronto news~!! Ahh he is so racist about a lot of things, nearly went to jail!


I found the "work like dogs" comment and the guy does seem to have a condescending attitude. See: http://chineseinvancouver.blogspot.com/2008/03/orientals-work-like-dogs.html
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"Those Oriental people work like dogs. They work their hearts out. They are workers non-stop. They sleep beside their machines. That's why they are successful in life."

Of course then he went on to say that "I'm telling you, Oriental people, they're slowly taking over.… They're hard, hard workers."

Really? Well, too damn bad. Time for other Canadians to start working harder if they don't want to be "taken over" I guess.

And of course he uses the term "oriental" which has heavy connotations of British Imperialism and stuffy british guys sitting around smoking and making derogatory or condescending comments about Asian people.

But overall it looks like the "dogs" comment itself isn't to say that Asian people ARE dogs but that they work really hard all the time. The rest of what he said sounds pretty paranoid and condescending though.


Anyway, I think many people in the west are critical of the Chinese government but many Chinese people don't always distinguish between being critical of the communist party and Chinese people or China as a whole.

Also, many Chinese bloggers (from what I've read) don't seem to think that Tibet is a "real" issue and that people in the west are just trying to use it to trash China and try to ruin the first Chinese olympic games. Overall there's not a good understanding of the western political mindset where every little issue is some huge deal, especially when it looks like some big country is mistreating a smaller one. The same people worked up over Tibet are also the ones who get really worked up over Iraq, Afghanistan, and the Iraq-Palestine issue.

The thing people often don't understand is that the real motives of these people is often that they're Democrats, and the president is a Republican, and they just need some excuse to make the opposing party's president out to be evil by saying "look! the evil bush is too nice to the big evil china who beats up on poor little tibet!" Really these people don't care about Tibet or anywhere else, because if they did then they'd also care about Darfur and other places. Really all they care about is "us good, bush evil" and they'll just say whatever to convince people of that.

People in China don't really understand how this stuff works in places like the US because in China there's just one party and you're not allowed to fight with it, so they don't encounter lots of political groups in China trying to use issues to make each other look bad (not on the official news anyway). People also don't vote so they don't get personally wrapped up in one political party or another.

So anyway, I think you do have some people who really are kind of racist with all this "they're taking over" crap, but there's also just a lot of misunderstanding over who or what exactly is being criticized and whether or not it even really has that much to do with China.
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ChickenPrincess wrote:


Shinjy wrote:


ChickenPrincess wrote:

YES! Also for those of you living in Canada. There was this one government official who was so racist. He was like "The Chinese people work like dogs!" and I was like..."HELL NO YOU DID NOT JUST SAY THAT!" I get offended really easily so...yeah xD


wot's d name of dat prick? comparing us to dogs?!! dat's bang out of order!


Aigoo i forgot! He was on CP24 toronto news~!! Ahh he is so racist about a lot of things, nearly went to jail!


I found the "work like dogs" comment and the guy does seem to have a condescending attitude. See: http://chineseinvancouver.blogspot.com/2008/03/orientals-work-like-dogs.html
Full quote is:


"Those Oriental people work like dogs. They work their hearts out. They are workers non-stop. They sleep beside their machines. That's why they are successful in life."

Of course then he went on to say that "I'm telling you, Oriental people, they're slowly taking over.… They're hard, hard workers."

Really? Well, too damn bad. Time for other Canadians to start working harder if they don't want to be "taken over" I guess.

And of course he uses the term "oriental" which has heavy connotations of British Imperialism and stuffy british guys sitting around smoking and making derogatory or condescending comments about Asian people.

But overall it looks like the "dogs" comment itself isn't to say that Asian people ARE dogs but that they work really hard all the time. The rest of what he said sounds pretty paranoid and condescending though.
haha just wait till us chinese run him down...we shall eat him! or maybe not, too much carbs and fats xD

Anyway, I think many people in the west are critical of the Chinese government but many Chinese people don't always distinguish between being critical of the communist party and Chinese people or China as a whole.

Also, many Chinese bloggers (from what I've read) don't seem to think that Tibet is a "real" issue and that people in the west are just trying to use it to trash China and try to ruin the first Chinese olympic games. Overall there's not a good understanding of the western political mindset where every little issue is some huge deal, especially when it looks like some big country is mistreating a smaller one. The same people worked up over Tibet are also the ones who get really worked up over Iraq, Afghanistan, and the Iraq-Palestine issue.

The thing people often don't understand is that the real motives of these people is often that they're Democrats, and the president is a Republican, and they just need some excuse to make the opposing party's president out to be evil by saying "look! the evil bush is too nice to the big evil china who beats up on poor little tibet!" Really these people don't care about Tibet or anywhere else, because if they did then they'd also care about Darfur and other places. Really all they care about is "us good, bush evil" and they'll just say whatever to convince people of that.

People in China don't really understand how this stuff works in places like the US because in China there's just one party and you're not allowed to fight with it, so they don't encounter lots of political groups in China trying to use issues to make each other look bad (not on the official news anyway). People also don't vote so they don't get personally wrapped up in one political party or another.

So anyway, I think you do have some people who really are kind of racist with all this "they're taking over" crap, but there's also just a lot of misunderstanding over who or what exactly is being criticized and whether or not it even really has that much to do with China.


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yeah like southpark, but i still watch it its funny
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Posted 4/22/08

Shinjy wrote:


ChickenPrincess wrote:

YES! Also for those of you living in Canada. There was this one government official who was so racist. He was like "The Chinese people work like dogs!" and I was like..."HELL NO YOU DID NOT JUST SAY THAT!" I get offended really easily so...yeah xD


wot's d name of dat prick? comparing us to dogs?!! dat's bang out of order!


you eat dogs
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Why'd you quote my whole message without saying anything?
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Why'd you quote my whole message without saying anything?


:P i thought i did, i said "watch us asians take over toronto piece by piece! and then we'll eat you...or not because there are WAY too many calories and fats watching my weight here" probably my damned computer virus acting up
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Shinjy wrote:


ChickenPrincess wrote:

YES! Also for those of you living in Canada. There was this one government official who was so racist. He was like "The Chinese people work like dogs!" and I was like..."HELL NO YOU DID NOT JUST SAY THAT!" I get offended really easily so...yeah xD


wot's d name of dat prick? comparing us to dogs?!! dat's bang out of order!


you eat dogs


well now that is just stereotypical. dogs are pets and friends not food. ew
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Posted 4/22/08
Yeah I read on the newspaper. Talking shit about Chinese people >.<
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BUT IT IS VERY BAD NEWS! but how they said it was just stupid
Posted 4/22/08

ChickenPrincess wrote:


blablabla9876 wrote:


Shinjy wrote:


ChickenPrincess wrote:

YES! Also for those of you living in Canada. There was this one government official who was so racist. He was like "The Chinese people work like dogs!" and I was like..."HELL NO YOU DID NOT JUST SAY THAT!" I get offended really easily so...yeah xD


wot's d name of dat prick? comparing us to dogs?!! dat's bang out of order!


you eat dogs


well now that is just stereotypical. dogs are pets and friends not food. ew


but you eat them right?
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ChickenPrincess wrote:


blablabla9876 wrote:


Shinjy wrote:


ChickenPrincess wrote:

YES! Also for those of you living in Canada. There was this one government official who was so racist. He was like "The Chinese people work like dogs!" and I was like..."HELL NO YOU DID NOT JUST SAY THAT!" I get offended really easily so...yeah xD


wot's d name of dat prick? comparing us to dogs?!! dat's bang out of order!


you eat dogs


well now that is just stereotypical. dogs are pets and friends not food. ew


but you eat them right?


no thats gross...maybe in like some sort of ancient china thing long long time ago..but not now, we're modern just like everyone else in case u havent watched a chinese drama.
Posted 4/22/08

ChickenPrincess wrote:


blablabla9876 wrote:


ChickenPrincess wrote:


blablabla9876 wrote:


Shinjy wrote:


ChickenPrincess wrote:

YES! Also for those of you living in Canada. There was this one government official who was so racist. He was like "The Chinese people work like dogs!" and I was like..."HELL NO YOU DID NOT JUST SAY THAT!" I get offended really easily so...yeah xD


wot's d name of dat prick? comparing us to dogs?!! dat's bang out of order!


you eat dogs


well now that is just stereotypical. dogs are pets and friends not food. ew


but you eat them right?


no thats gross...maybe in like some sort of ancient china thing long long time ago..but not now, we're modern just like everyone else in case u havent watched a chinese drama.


wth? you know nothing about your country. Modern chinese people still eat dogs. And chinese dramas are fiction in case you haven't noticed
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