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Posted 4/22/08
Okay, I searched through threads and there is a similar thread about the genocide in Darfur. And I posted this thread in the general forum as well, since I need to 'collect' a lot of diverse opinions. This thread is different since I want to know not just your opinion but of your stand/side/position on how this crisis should be handled, whether you want the UN or the US or any other nation to help, or you don't care what happens to them, or that other nations shouldn't bother since it's not their problem.I am not emphasizing that US should help, but the UN more specifically.

I know for a fact that Iraq and Palestine are suffering from massive genocide as well, but since Darfur has more media coverage, well you get what I mean.

Some might not be fully informed about what is happening in Darfur, Sudan,so let me enlighten you and give a brief and detailed background. In 2003, a rebel group started to target Khartoum (government) saying that they favor the Arabs more than the Africans. In retaliation, the government ordered their militia (the Janjaweed (unsure if they ARE the militia), who believed that they needed a 'racial cleansing' (genocide)) to "restore peace." And since then 400,00 and more have been killed, 2.5 million have been displaced in the African nation of Sudan, 5000 and more people die every month; the refugee camps are unsafe. There is a scarcity of food and water. Women are raped and killed. Men and children are mutilated. Villages have been burned and their livestock have been stolen to prevent any 'source' of living. The US government has made this crisis official and reinstated that these killings are in fact considered as GENOCIDE. For more information, you could PM me and I'll gladly answer the best I can.

There's a lot of organizations in the US that petitions for the government to do something and help the people in Darfur. A lot of people are also against the idea of the US helping in this issue since there is a recession going on that is caused by the so-called 'War on Terror.'

My stand with this issue, is that the U.S should not be the only one to help, I am aware that there would be a lot of political and financial losses if other nations try and help. I believe the UN should think of this issue more seriously, if we manage to stop this crisis, then it is very possible we could stop other genocides that are happening as well.

I'm an activist in humanitarian issues, so I do feel strongly about this. But all opinions are welcome (even racist or inhumane comments), and I will try hard to understand your P.O.V.
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P.S Some people might indicate a similar thread as mine, and I do know that this is similar to another so please try and understand, that the opinions you would give me would (positive or negative)support my humanitarian group since we are planning to put up an event and a petition on campus. The group I belong to is not a CR group but it is one of the most prominent organizations that promotes awareness for this issue (www.savedarfur.org). Image
Posted 4/22/08
.... Thats a pretty long post. I don't really agree with you though. The US should help out. Sometimes it takes more then just one person or in this case a group (UN) of people to change a country. Countries should always act on what they think is humane. Sometimes not all countries have a clear brain enough to actually know what is humane in this world. But I trust the US, even though they might've tons of stupid things in the past. Also what is wrong with the Darfur government with this cleansing thing? Are they trying to do what Hitler failed or something? By now I though the world would've evolved from the time in World War II. But it seems like it didn't and there is still tons of racism going on. Attempting to kill off another race will do nobody any good.
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Posted 4/23/08

greenleavedluck wrote:

.... Thats a pretty long post. I don't really agree with you though. The US should help out. Sometimes it takes more then just one person or in this case a group (UN) of people to change a country. Countries should always act on what they think is humane. Sometimes not all countries have a clear brain enough to actually know what is humane in this world. But I trust the US, even though they might've tons of stupid things in the past. Also what is wrong with the Darfur government with this cleansing thing? Are they trying to do what Hitler failed or something? By now I though the world would've evolved from the time in World War II. But it seems like it didn't and there is still tons of racism going on. Attempting to kill off another race will do nobody any good.


Well the US is actually one of the countries that are already sort of helping out. But because of political reasons, the help they send aren't enough. China is "supposed" to be helping but they are renowned supporters of the Sudanese government in oil production, Egypt as well. And I just don't see there being any UN conferences to deal with this. And yes I do agree that it was a very long post, sorry about that. ( -.- )
Posted 4/23/08
Heehee. It was a long post, but most posts in the Extended Discussion is pretty long. That's great! Countries are helping out! It's like when there is a bully. If no one stands up to help the victim, nothing changes, but if someone does, eventually it will stop. With the US, if it doesn't stop, I think they will start another war. But you will never know, they might even "peacefully" stop Darfur's government from attempting to clean their "race". If in the UN, there is no conference about this, they will have to soon. Racism is serious business. Besides if this gets into the press, they will have no choice, but to interfere with Darfur. Or else they might be thought as hypocrites.
I haven't seen in the newspapers. How'd you find out?
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i dont see the point in helping build up a country were doing it iraq and it would have been better if we let sudaam keep killing hsi people off then at least the world wouldnt hate us for it....... well they would hate us for not stepping in
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Posted 4/23/08

greenleavedluck wrote:

Heehee. It was a long post, but most posts in the Extended Discussion is pretty long. That's great! Countries are helping out! It's like when there is a bully. If no one stands up to help the victim, nothing changes, but if someone does, eventually it will stop. With the US, if it doesn't stop, I think they will start another war. But you will never know, they might even "peacefully" stop Darfur's government from attempting to clean their "race". If in the UN, there is no conference about this, they will have to soon. Racism is serious business. Besides if this gets into the press, they will have no choice, but to interfere with Darfur. Or else they might be thought as hypocrites.
I haven't seen in the newspapers. How'd you find out?


Oh because I do humanitarian works so I pretty am well informed with these. Most of it are done online, there are tons of articles on BBCnews. But in all honesty, I just searched about it because George Clooney mentioned it a lot of times in his past interviews. This is the best source if you want to know more about it, www.SaveDarfur.org or http://www.takepart.com/DarfurNow. There are videos of it as well up in YouTube. :0
Posted 4/23/08

clocut wrote:

i dont see the point in helping build up a country were doing it iraq and it would have been better if we let sudaam keep killing hsi people off then at least the world wouldnt hate us for it....... well they would hate us for not stepping in


Their government would hate the people that step in to help, but the many victims would be very thankful. The people who support the government would hate the people helping too. It won't stop even nobody helps. They won't kill off all the people. Just the people that is different from them. So the citizens left would be the people who started off the killing spree. If they were successful, they might eventually even try to cleanse the world in their own way. And that is when we will all regret it for not helping.

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I had never heard of Darfur until I read geeene_16's post. The situation sounds terrible. I'm not clear what you mean by "helping" or getting involved. If you mean humanitarian aid, like distributing food and medical care, then there is a very strong case for countries like America and Australia to get involved. If you mean sending in the troops to invade the place, then there isn't such a strong case. Genocide and racism are always disgusting, but I'm not sure what we can do to help.
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Posted 4/24/08
I would love to have millions of dollars to help!!! being poor makes you useless
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Posted 4/24/08

junglemummy wrote:

I had never heard of Darfur until I read geeene_16's post. The situation sounds terrible. I'm not clear what you mean by "helping" or getting involved. If you mean humanitarian aid, like distributing food and medical care, then there is a very strong case for countries like America and Australia to get involved. If you mean sending in the troops to invade the place, then there isn't such a strong case. Genocide and racism are always disgusting, but I'm not sure what we can do to help.


You can start helping by raising awareness to your family, friends and your school or work place. If you are interested, you could visit www.savedarfur.org. This is one of the most prominent organizations that are helping. They have a take action tab there, you could donate, or even send letters to your local officials, the president and the UN general. You could also start your own local group and raise funds or do events to make more peopel aware of this situation. The US by far is the most active foreign country in regards to involvement. But the things they do (sending humanitarian goods) are not enough. The UN isn't even THAT involved with this issue. People don't even pay attention to this. The best way to help is to know more about this and start to raise awareness. If you are interested, everything you want and need to know about the crisis in Darfur is in the site that I have mentioned.
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tony_animefan1 wrote:

I would love to have millions of dollars to help!!! being poor makes you useless


You don't need to be rich, or have a decent amount of moeny to be able to help. The best and most efficient way to help prevent this situation is to start raising awareness. Let your family, friends and all the other people know what is happening. You could go to www.savedarfur.org and click the take action button. You can sign petitions,a dn even send letters to your local leaders, the US president, and the UN general.
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tony_animefan1 wrote:

I would love to have millions of dollars to help!!! being poor makes you useless


You don't need to be rich, or have a decent amount of moeny to be able to help. The best and most efficient way to help prevent this situation is to start raising awareness. Let your family, friends and all the other people know what is happening. You could go to www.savedarfur.org and click the take action button. You can sign petitions,a dn even send letters to your local leaders, the US president, and the UN general. :)


umm... i know what its about because my school already had a big meeting and presentation about it last year

and charity i was to poor to donate but i ddi sign the petition lol
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tony_animefan1 wrote:


geeene_16 wrote:


tony_animefan1 wrote:

I would love to have millions of dollars to help!!! being poor makes you useless


You don't need to be rich, or have a decent amount of moeny to be able to help. The best and most efficient way to help prevent this situation is to start raising awareness. Let your family, friends and all the other people know what is happening. You could go to www.savedarfur.org and click the take action button. You can sign petitions,a dn even send letters to your local leaders, the US president, and the UN general. :)


umm... i know what its about because my school already had a big meeting and presentation about it last year

and charity i was to poor to donate but i ddi sign the petition lol

Oh I see. Then just keep spreading the word then!
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Posted 4/25/08 , edited 4/25/08
Darfur

It is observed that parties tried to make some actions but there is limited progress in implementation of the Comprehensive peace Agreement (CPA), unresolved status of the Abyei and management of armed groups.

there are increasing concerns about the timeline for elections scheduled for 2009, the disarmament, demobilization, and integration program (process of adaptation and transformation) and the land demarcation which remained behind schedule

meantime there are continuous violence and atrocities and grave deterioration of humanitarian concern

amid the recession in US who plays a major role in contributing to the UN which makes them more responsible. i think, in addition to some efforts on awareness of such activities through mass media, there needs to be some secret service aggressive role.
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