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Respect and CR
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Posted 4/25/08
everyone in cr must respect each other... I'm not trying to sound like an angel but everyone of us here are humans, and humans have feelings... though the attack was done online(*what I mean is on the internet*) it can still degrade and hurt someone.... so it must be better if everyone will avoid using harsh words....
Posted 4/26/08 , edited 4/26/08
respect is earned, not freely given out

although it is nice to think that every person should be respected in their own right, their are just people out there that do not care and that is their way of doing things

i think it would awfully restricting if their were minimum for respect, look at ebay..........anyways, its a choice whether to give out respect or not........i do not think it should be mandatory

not everyone is a complete ass outside of the internet, but this is where people go to loosen up and relax somewhat right? if they can't control themselves and start terrorizing people, then they already have a punishment out there for that, its called banning right?

if you want every single person to be nice to each other and to get along, then wouldn't that be an achievement, but sadly not everyone gets along, there is a friction between people that can't seem to be explained and it just happens, an unexplainable animosity resulting from differing opinions.........if you dont like getting insulted or whatever.....you dont have to reply, no one is making you read the message, and furthermore it's not like everyone is nice to you outside of the internet so in what makes you think that its any different here?

CR would probably be a little more annoying and a little less interesting........like what parental controls do to the internet.......
if minimums were established....because there will always be people who don't think it is enough.......the minimum that is

no, i dont think there should be any rewards for respecting anybody.........its not like you get a reward for breathing do you? is it not basic to respect people?, i dont think you should have to have guidelines or prizes for what you should already be doing....

and one more thing.......you shouldn't need the authorities to be doing the smallest things for you, don't be so dependent on others because someone is exploiting or pointing out your insecurities.........do something about it yourself , you know; you dont have to wait for someone to hold your hand right?
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Posted 4/27/08
if such a law is imposed 80% of the people here would be gone...
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Posted 4/28/08

manzi wrote:

if such a law is imposed 80% of the people here would be gone...


yawn.. bitches need some real shit to talk about. like how all these gay people always makin out in public are hurting childrens eyes. its sick. distgusting. freaks i swear.

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Posted 4/29/08
Perhaps we should define respect? Because some of these responses are kind of ridiculous, and I want to think that maybe it's because not everyone's on the same page.


Respect as a noun:

- a particular, detail, or point (usually prec. by in): [i.e. to differ in some respect.]
- relation or reference [i.e. inquiries with respect to a route.]
- esteem for or a sense of the worth or excellence of a person, a personal quality or ability, or something considered as a manifestation of a personal quality or ability: [i.e. I have great respect for her judgment.]
- deference to a right, privilege, privileged position, or someone or something considered to have certain rights or privileges; proper acceptance or courtesy; acknowledgment: [i.e. respect for a suspect's right to counsel; to show respect for the flag; respect for the elderly.]
- the condition of being esteemed or honored: [i.e. to be held in respect.]
- respects, a formal expression or gesture of greeting, esteem, or friendship: [i.e. Give my respects to your parents.
- favor or partiality.
- Archaic. a consideration.

Respect as a verb:

- to hold in esteem or honor: [i.e. I cannot respect a cheat. ]
- to show regard or consideration for: [i.e. to respect someone's rights.]
- to refrain from intruding upon or interfering with: [i.e. to respect a person's privacy.
- to relate or have reference to.


(thanks to the Random House Unabridged Dictionary)

I've bolded the ones I feel that work with CR, the ones that fit a 'minimum requirement' of respect. If you cannot give that minimum amount of respect, then you really do not need to be on this forum, or any for the matter - these people are usually spammers anyway. No one wants to talk to someone who talks but won't listen, who dish out but can't take any back in.

Of course there is the respect that can be earned and lost (point three, five, nine) but that doesn't fall into the basic minimal level of respect.


twixandchips wrote:

i think it would awfully restricting if their were minimum for respect, look at ebay..........anyways, its a choice whether to give out respect or not........i do not think it should be mandatory


Huh?
Posted 5/1/08
Right amount of respect is subjective. So you cant really impose on certain standards because it would be useless.
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Posted 5/4/08
I hate when people start to attacking others opinion, especially "kids". We know that we all have different opinion. I don't mind if it's a discussion, but many of those "kids" start to say the "F" word if other don't agree with what they think...
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Posted 5/5/08
It would be incredibly annoying to moderate if such standards were implemented, though not impossible. I'm sure the job is enough unrewarding work as is.

The demographics of the CR community is vast, though it would be safe to assume the average age of the forum-lurker is relatively low, maybe high teens/low twenties. That being said, imposing standards of behavior is generally futile. The effort involved in enforcing the standards of "respect" would severely outweigh the risk-level and consequences of those breaching the rules.

I guess I rather like having the option of being name-called by a childish 1337-sp3aking kiddy, so I could retaliate with a witty retort. Maybe I'm just a jerk like that.
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Posted 5/5/08 , edited 5/5/08

sen_dy wrote:

I hate when people start to attacking others opinion, especially "kids". We know that we all have different opinion. I don't mind if it's a discussion, but many of those "kids" start to say the "F" word if other don't agree with what they think...


CR has a policy on cursing. If you choose to use a profanity, then I should not be able to stop you, and that goes for any age group. The only time it should be put to an end is when the language is being used at the expense of another crunchyroller. At that point it is not a matter of profanity though, but of flaming. (Here I would like to note that flaming is flaming no matter how eloquently it is worded, and that this is something CR needs to pay more attention to, rather than picking out a few key curse words and highlighting them as unacceptable.)
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Posted 5/5/08

aznfarseer wrote:

It would be incredibly annoying to moderate if such standards were implemented, though not impossible. I'm sure the job is enough unrewarding work as is.

The demographics of the CR community is vast, though it would be safe to assume the average age of the forum-lurker is relatively low, maybe high teens/low twenties. That being said, imposing standards of behavior is generally futile. The effort involved in enforcing the standards of "respect" would severely outweigh the risk-level and consequences of those breaching the rules.

I guess I rather like having the option of being name-called by a childish 1337-sp3aking kiddy, so I could retaliate with a witty retort. Maybe I'm just a jerk like that.


Hehe, but that just gets old after awhile. I dunno, maybe I just hang around too many higher-moderated forums and/or/with a more respectable members and is spoiled by their 'tougher standards'. Yeah, trying to do something now would take a lot of work, but sitting around and doing nothing isn't helping either, and will make trying to fix it later even harder. At least start temporarily banning people or something... ^_^;

But who knows? Maybe they are doing something behind-the-scenes.
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Posted 5/5/08
While I always believe it is good to have guidelines as to how people should act and respond. I do feel that it could cause problems. The very first problem is that people might twist the rules to get others in trouble. You see most of the time the rules are just a list of 5 or more items. Most of the time they are some what vauge. So people can interpret the rules as they see fit.

Secondly "discussion" is generally a nice word for argument. Generally when I am on these kinds of forums I start and argument. Because I generally do not see eye to eye with others. And I often times put things into context depending upon how I feel about the subject. This may violate the rules in some way shape or form. Or I may upset someone or something.

So I guess having a few guidelines as of how to act would be fine. But in the end we all have our own opinions and I know I find it hard to respect people who believe stupid things. And I generally treat them as idiots and do not give them any respect. And I expect the same from them. But if we are all being nicey nicey no interesting topics will ever emerge again.
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Posted 5/5/08 , edited 5/5/08
I think in some instances, such guidelines could only help...and CR would probably benefit from this, especially in the forums. I grew up with a natural inclination to show a certain level of respect, and I try to do it online as well, but whenever I do, I usually get laughed at, or whenever I try to show people how inappropriate they are being, they just tell me "we're just joking, it's just words. Sticks and stones, right?"

Wrong. If it was just sticks and stones, then it wouldn't be possible to hurt people online with words. There are some sensitive people out there. I know it pisses me off whenever people just say "aw, just ignore it". I can't ignore the little stuff, because little things get worse. It's why there are young people throwing their lives away because of stupid, ignorant, untrue, and just plain uncalled for comments on MySpace and other websites.

People think that just because this is the internet, they can just say what they want and suffer no repercussions from it; that because they think they are anonymous, they can say mean and stupid and hurtful things to total strangers and it won't matter. I don't know about any of you, but I don't think a total stranger has the right to just come up to me and spout useless random, and insulting bullcrap, especially because they can't see my face and don't know me.

I think words are a powerful weapon, and people need to learn how to use them with more discretion, because, regardless of how little people care, or how much we've been brainwashed with this "sticks and stones" nonsense, words can wound deeper than most people realize. Words should not be used recklessly against people with disregard for others' feelings.

I understand that this is the internet, and there are going to be those immature dingbats who just don't want to get with the program, but I think because of the vulnerability of people on the internet, even the smallest bit of respect could be enough. Just a bit is needed because this is the internet.

I'm not saying don't argue. This is still a forum, and not everyone is going to share the same opinions. So, by all means, argue. But, there is a fine line between arguing and bashing, and I'm seeing way too much bashing and pointless nonsense and ridiculous posts that don't follow the topic, lately, and it's ticking me off. That's where some guidelines would come in handy. Sure, there is a rule that people should not post off topic. But, compared with another of my frequent forums, the forums on CR don't monitor this rule enough, so people think they can get away with it. On my other forum, if people start writing random, off-topic crap in a thread, they get a warning from the other members. If they keep doing it, it gets reported to a mod and their post gets deleted. Simple as that. No questions asked. (Needless to say, if they keep doing it, they get either (a)demoted to the lowest possible rank, and/or (b) banned).

Although, that might be far more difficult on CR due to the greater number of people that are present every day, it would be hard to keep track, wouldn't it? A real shame, too.

Edit: I don't care if anyone reads this post or not. I just felt the need to throw my two cents out there. Just don't insult me for my opinions, because, contrary to popular belief, I feel I'm entitled to my opinion as well (I have had people that have told me otherwise. No, I didn't make that up).
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Posted 5/5/08

hikaruchan16 wrote:

[snip]

Edit: I don't care if anyone reads this post or not. I just felt the need to throw my two cents out there. Just don't insult me for my opinions, because, contrary to popular belief, I feel I'm entitled to my opinion as well (I have had people that have told me otherwise. No, I didn't make that up).


Well I read it and I think it's brilliant. Really well-said, seriously - I just snipped it because I'm not responding to it directly.

How many members does the CR have anyway? There is a few forums I go to that have several thousand active members and they're all pretty very well-kept.
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LG135 wrote:


hikaruchan16 wrote:

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Edit: I don't care if anyone reads this post or not. I just felt the need to throw my two cents out there. Just don't insult me for my opinions, because, contrary to popular belief, I feel I'm entitled to my opinion as well (I have had people that have told me otherwise. No, I didn't make that up).


Well I read it and I think it's brilliant. Really well-said, seriously - I just snipped it because I'm not responding to it directly.

How many members does the CR have anyway? There is a few forums I go to that have several thousand active members and they're all pretty very well-kept.


I'm not quite certain of that number...but I think it's quite a large number. Probably larger than my other main forum that I frequent. Of course, the number of users that actually post in the forums on CR is considerably small perhaps only a fraction of the total members. It would be interesting to find out though...

It's nice to write my opinion on a serious issue and not be totally brushed off for once. Thank you. : )
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Posted 5/6/08
^Yeah it would.

Woo! God watching here! Or at least shinji ^^ Let's hope the new potential mods will add some much needed tough love and discipline here.
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