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I own a gun, so what do you think?

As often mentioned as it is it deserves repeating, criminals do not care about gun laws. Mr.Gangster is not going to say "Well now that they changed the gun laws I better stop robbing people at gunpoint." I don't know how it is in the rest of the world, but here in the US illegally acquiring a gun is hardly an epic challenge if you look hard enough.


from what ive been told (havent looked into it) but apparently arizona is a "show and go" state. Ive talked to people at gun shops and they were saying people will just take a gun they bought and as long as the person has the money the exchange and leave. Idk bout the legality but it sounds like u dont have to do any kind of paper work, which is scary as sh** (and even as a gun owner i think thats a messed up oversight if its true)
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I see no reason to have them personally. However, eradicating guns in America is going to be quite difficult, if not impossible. It would do more harm than good.

I would keep them only for that fact.
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Of course not!! Not having guns in a society reduces the criminality and deaths. Especially in the United-States where most people have guns and there are more shooting fatalities than their peers, like example Canada who are way more strict about guns. In 2009 there were 16 799 homicides in the US, 11 493 were caused by firearms and so I came to realize guns encourage people to commit violence. In America almost anyone could get his hands on a gun, that's whats dangerous about it. One thing that shocked me when I was in the US is the numbers of casualties I saw on tv, almost more than one per week...

Well that's my opinion, based on what I learned and lived. I may be wrong, if so tell me


there are countries that have done that, and their crime rates went up.

also Switzerland has crazy lax gun laws and their crime rate is really low.

you have to remember, the people doing the crimes dont care about the laws. outlaw guns (remember they dont care about laws) and they will still get them, but then people who follow the laws dont have any and the power shifts into the favor of the criminals.

Think about it, if you were looking at two houses to break into (assume the same stuff in each house) but u knew one had no gun and one might have a gun. which house would you chose to break into?
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All banning guns would do is hurt the people that are responsible users of guns. You're not going to stop people from getting shot, massacres, crime, etc. Just like banning alcohol didn't stop people from obtaining it banning guns wouldn't stop people from getting their hands on them. For every crazy guy that goes on a shooting spree there are millions of others that use there guns responsibly.

If we're going to use the logic that because something kills thus it should be banned than we should ban alcohol and cars as well. I'm more likely to get killed by a drunk driver or in a car accident than I am from some crazy guy shooting me with a gun. Also consider how many broken homes, messed up kids, and violence alcohol has lead too? Alcohol is way more damaging to people than guns are.

Of course the counter argument is that the majority are responsible drivers and people that drink responsibly so it shouldn't be banned because of some bad apples. That same argument applies to guns as well.

If you want to solve the problem than you need to solve the issues that would cause one person to shoot another one. Want to stop gang violence than you need to curb the drug trade. Want to stop the drug trade than you need to curb the demand for the drugs in the first place.
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"An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life."

Robert A. Heinlein
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AnoAnaru wrote:

Of course not!! Not having guns in a society reduces the criminality and deaths. Especially in the United-States where most people have guns and there are more shooting fatalities than their peers, like example Canada who are way more strict about guns. In 2009 there were 16 799 homicides in the US, 11 493 were caused by firearms and so I came to realize guns encourage people to commit violence. In America almost anyone could get his hands on a gun, that's whats dangerous about it. One thing that shocked me when I was in the US is the numbers of casualties I saw on tv, almost more than one per week...

Well that's my opinion, based on what I learned and lived. I may be wrong, if so tell me



11,000 shooting deaths as compared to the 80 million gun owners in the United States (statistics from the US Census) = 0.013% of gun owners that committed a homicide. That isn't even 1%.

So if we follow this line of thinking, since there were 10,228 deaths by drunk drivers in the United States in 2010, we should take the right to drive away from everyone?
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I met an american once (i live in the great white north btw) who was here for the stampede. We said hello to eachother but the guy (probably in his mid 30's) and his wife seemed kind of uneasy. When I asked him if they were enjoying themselves, he said it would be more enjoyable if they had protection. I got confused so I asked what kind of protection? and he replied that if they had their guns on them, they would feel safer walking around. I asked what they needed protection from and the man replied "From other people with guns". I told them to enjoy their stay in calgary and walked away quickly holding in my laughter. Canadian gun laws make it so the only people carrying guns are cops.
Everyone knows that the crime rate in Canada is much lower than the states, as well as death rate by gun shot.

So to answer your question, I think guns should be made and kept illegal. If you want to shoot, then go to a firing range. Make it so people can rent weapons out to use at a firing range but cant leave the range with them. It's much safer that way and you still get to have fun.
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from what ive been told (havent looked into it) but apparently arizona is a "show and go" state. Ive talked to people at gun shops and they were saying people will just take a gun they bought and as long as the person has the money the exchange and leave. Idk bout the legality but it sounds like u dont have to do any kind of paper work, which is scary as sh** (and even as a gun owner i think thats a messed up oversight if its true)


I admit I don't know as much about gun laws as I probably should. When I bought mine I had to complete background check form as well as a background check which I had to pay for. Then since it was my first handgun purchase I had to wait 72 hours. I was also told that all handguns that could be concealed needed to be registered with the Metro Police Department, but I really doubt it'd be an issue unless I was wearing it openly. I'm not sure but I believe that, provided you already legally own a handgun, you can buy a gun and walk out with it that same day since you already were background checked once. There's no such wait period on rifles or shotguns. I've only bought one gun though so i'm not sure whether that's true or not.
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I've met far too many moronic dickheads who couldn't be trusted with a pellet gun, never mind one loaded with bullets.

For some people, having a gun just makes them look for an excuse to shoot something.

It's far too late for a country like the US to do anything about them though, the guns are already out there in vast numbers.


Glad they are illegal here,not even police have them, though I can see the appeal of protection. However, if a person planned to burgle a house they would obviously bring a gun themselves and could just shoot you in your sleep before you could get anywhere near your own gun. Unless you can, in which case...draw.
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I used to think guns were cool. Then I moved into the third grade.
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18 / M / Tiphares
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Posted 9/25/12
Yes.
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One problem is that when some one says that there should be no guns, the starting point is not zero. They are out there now.
Imagine this experiment:
10 people are locked in a room. You are told that there is 1 drug abuser, 2 people convicted of domestic violence and a convicted sex offender. Also, there are 2 people in the room who have guns. They could be anyone in the group. Now your choice is, do you want one also? Do you think you can talk the others out of their guns, so no one in the room has one, or are you counting on that only the nice people have them and will help you?
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Yes, Right to bear arms and I back it 100%. Criminals are alot smarter than you think, around where I live they target houses they are absolutely sure dont have guns in them... they first get to know you learn everything about you and then rob you blind when your not there and if for some reason you are there they kill you and flee to Mexico. Also we have moronic crack heads here who try to steal your shit so they can pawn it and buy more drugs they usually dont care if you have guns or not so... yea.. you need a gun around here if you decide not to have one... your funeral.
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people should be able to carry guns. an armed society is a polite society.
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