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Depends on what you mean by 'personal protection'. If you live in the middle of nowhere with animals like bears and such around then I see no reason to stop someone having a shotgun or something. If you just want to shoot some guy for being in your house, thats a totally different proposition


I'm not so sure. By what right is 'some guy' in your house? Why shouldn't you protect your home?




By what right do you have to use clearly lethal force?
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I think that people should be allowed to have guns. Hunting rifles (where I live a lot of people hunt and need to to help get through the winter) and handguns (self defense purposes) are kool with me. What gets me is how people can have assault rifles. I think that is just ridiculous. You dont need an m-16 to get a duck or a buck. >_> It is just excessive. I do not believe in a ban on all guns but I also have a biased view.
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mipegg wrote:


papagolfwhiskey wrote:


mipegg wrote:

Depends on what you mean by 'personal protection'. If you live in the middle of nowhere with animals like bears and such around then I see no reason to stop someone having a shotgun or something. If you just want to shoot some guy for being in your house, thats a totally different proposition


I'm not so sure. By what right is 'some guy' in your house? Why shouldn't you protect your home?




By what right do you have to use clearly lethal force?



Ah another person who knows nothing about guns and thinksy they are a magic death wand. As for the right to use violance against some one who is in your HOME intending no good to you and you're FAMILY ... you're kidding me right?
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No,not at all....people be sayin they need it for protection n shit but in my opinion if guns were banned there will be less shootings.
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In the odd event this thing might actually exist ..

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Why is it that people who don't like guns ban them from places, then call people to bring guns after something bad starts to happen? Ever notice that restraints where cops get to eat cheep (Some times free) don't have a problem with armed robbery? Why do criminals choose "gun free zones" to create mayhem and ignore the little sign on the door? Why do we still have people shot in Washington D.C where guns are basically outlawed more than across the river in Virgina where they are legal? Why is it that district attorneys drop "gun position charges" quickly in a plea bargain deals and claim to be hard on repeat offenders with guns? Why is it that teachers must report child abuse, but can not report on a child exhibiting "Psychopath Behavior" signs?
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Right to bear arms is an important freedom here in the US. However, automatic rifles (etc) are ridiculous for a private citizen to own. A thorough mental evaluation and a background check should become stricter and standard throughout our States.
I work as a teacher. I have had to explain to crying children how we keep them safe in our building. Sadly, if someone wants to injure another human being it takes very little to end a life. Chemicals, bombs, fire, knives...
I will not carry arms, but it feels safe to have a trained professional watching my back and those of my students.
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Posted 12/31/12

papagolfwhiskey wrote:


mipegg wrote:


papagolfwhiskey wrote:


mipegg wrote:

Depends on what you mean by 'personal protection'. If you live in the middle of nowhere with animals like bears and such around then I see no reason to stop someone having a shotgun or something. If you just want to shoot some guy for being in your house, thats a totally different proposition


I'm not so sure. By what right is 'some guy' in your house? Why shouldn't you protect your home?




By what right do you have to use clearly lethal force?



Ah another person who knows nothing about guns and thinksy they are a magic death wand. As for the right to use violance against some one who is in your HOME intending no good to you and you're FAMILY ... you're kidding me right?


I wonder how he would feel if he and his family were tied up in their living room with guns to their faces. A little birdshot in the ass never killed nobody.
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sajabau wrote:

Right to bear arms is an important freedom here in the US. However, automatic rifles (etc) are ridiculous for a private citizen to own. A thorough mental evaluation and a background check should become stricter and standard throughout our States.


A Semi-Automatic firearm is on trigger pull, one bullet fired. Automatic or full auto is one trigger pulled, many bullets fired.

To get a full auto in the US, you need a Law Enforcement OK (From head of the sheriff department), with finger prints on your paperwork that is sent in to the Federal Government (BATF) for a FBI background check that takes about 8 months and you also need to pay an extra $200 Tax. Most Law Enforcement officials will not sign off without a real good reason and have the option of not signing . The Full Autos were also restricted in 1986 in that you can not have one made from after that date. This made a pre 86' M16 cost over $20,000 and you still need the Law Enforcement OK.
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eldos1 wrote:


sajabau wrote:

Right to bear arms is an important freedom here in the US. However, automatic rifles (etc) are ridiculous for a private citizen to own. A thorough mental evaluation and a background check should become stricter and standard throughout our States.


A Semi-Automatic firearm is on trigger pull, one bullet fired. Automatic or full auto is one trigger pulled, many bullets fired.

To get a full auto in the US, you need a Law Enforcement OK (From head of the sheriff department), with finger prints on your paperwork that is sent in to the Federal Government (BATF) for a FBI background check that takes about 8 months and you also need to pay an extra $200 Tax. Most Law Enforcement officials will not sign off without a real good reason and have the option of not signing . The Full Autos were also restricted in 1986 in that you can not have one made from after that date. This made a pre 86' M16 cost over $20,000 and you still need the Law Enforcement OK.


Oh snap! I thought I was the only one on this forum that knew this! I find it hilarious that people don't know the difference between semi-auto and fully automatic weapons. Mechanically or financially, heh.

And yeah, fully automatic rifles and sub machine guns can cost tens of thousands. People think they are easy to acquire because they watch too many movies and can't tell reality from fiction.
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The government must always fear the wrath of the people if they abuse them too much. That is why we must have the right to defend ourselves. Every time a country is disarmed only the innocent suffer. Illegal markets will always acquire what they want and then they are even more powerful.
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CLarose wrote:


eldos1 wrote:


sajabau wrote:

Right to bear arms is an important freedom here in the US. However, automatic rifles (etc) are ridiculous for a private citizen to own. A thorough mental evaluation and a background check should become stricter and standard throughout our States.


A Semi-Automatic firearm is on trigger pull, one bullet fired. Automatic or full auto is one trigger pulled, many bullets fired.

To get a full auto in the US, you need a Law Enforcement OK (From head of the sheriff department), with finger prints on your paperwork that is sent in to the Federal Government (BATF) for a FBI background check that takes about 8 months and you also need to pay an extra $200 Tax. Most Law Enforcement officials will not sign off without a real good reason and have the option of not signing . The Full Autos were also restricted in 1986 in that you can not have one made from after that date. This made a pre 86' M16 cost over $20,000 and you still need the Law Enforcement OK.


Oh snap! I thought I was the only one on this forum that knew this! I find it hilarious that people don't know the difference between semi-auto and fully automatic weapons. Mechanically or financially, heh.

And yeah, fully automatic rifles and sub machine guns can cost tens of thousands. People think they are easy to acquire because they watch too many movies and can't tell reality from fiction.


They do no know the difference because those who want to restrict guns always blur the terms so they can ban anything that "Looks" like one by scaring the public.
-I am not related to this photo-

Good gun on top, bad gun on bottom? BTW, that Kitty AR is California legal and it looks less scary.

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Definitely, guns don't kill people, people kill people.

However, we should be limited in what we can own for personal protection; i.e., a standard barrel shotgun at home and low powered, single fire pistol for carrying on person with proper documentation and permit. Anything else is excessive for self defense.

EDIT: and a BTW, people who use guns to commit crimes never acquire them legally so what is the point of making them illegal?
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Posted 12/31/12 , edited 12/31/12

Sulla wrote:

I say yes they should own guns for protection and carry guns in the open, but not conceiled guns without permits.


- You can own guns for protection, hunting, range shooting, sports, whatever</li>
- You can get a permit for concealed use</li>
- Carrying guns in the open is intimidating</li>

I agree nonetheless.
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Guns aren't inherently "evil" it is the people that use them, maybe if there was a psych-evaluation prerequisite for gun ownership people would feel differently about them.
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