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mushroomj wrote:

yes, but only if each bullet costs $1,000 (haha got yo ass)


You know, bullets would be a lot easier to purchase illegally than guns...

That aside, some people still actually derive much of their meat from hunting.

I eat as much meat from my uncle's cows or from my hunting. I'd rather know it died quick and with as little pain as possible, than bludgeoned over and over until the animal succumbed to death.
My uncle only comes down from Idaho once a year and his beef runs out in about 6 months, so I do still buy from the market, but I supplement with venison.

Sorry, I lost myself, but yeah... keep bullets cheap, just invest more in the ATF and raise the price of handguns and non-hunting rifles/shotguns.

Only a small percentage of murders are committed by legal fire-arms anyways, and those are usually crimes of passion and not premeditated. The illegal ones are the problem real problem.
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Only responsible people shoul own guns( thats obvious). I think if you want a gun enough you shoul learn more about them. Most people , when picking up a revolver, cups the cylinder. I will personally walk up to them an take that gun from them even if its their own.

Back in the days there was a game people used to play. You buy one deer tag and a bunch of people(sometimes more than 10) will go out and hunt a plantation. Thing is most of them were drunk out of their mind. My great uncle was one of them that was drunk. That ay was one of the days he regreted most.

He was in a treestand, he saw something white behind a tree. When whitetail deer get scared or alerted they fling their tail straight up. Its a very visible white. My great uncle shot at that white thing behin that tree without even seeing what it was first (no smart hunter woul do that). That quick flash of white was a Tshirt from a young man stalking some deer behind cover. That guy died that day and if it doesnt allready sound terrible, he was a close friend of my great uncles. He stopped hunting, he threw away guns an he never lived it down.

Still, banning guns is an impossible. If the concept of banning guns is possible, why dont we bann cigarettes, as i said before in a post, SECOND hand smoke kills more than three times as many people as guns do in th USA. Still, just like how we do with second hand smoke, we can tie some ends. More education on guns, deeper background checks, stopping the sale of extended clips; all things we can do to cut down on the death rate.
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Here's a better idea! Don't ban guns.
BAN BULLETS. Bullets aren't nearly as collectable a guns
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Does a person have a right to defend themselves? I say yes.
Is there a limit to the level of armament a private citizen should be able to lawfully own? I say yes again.

I suspect there is plenty of room for debate between those two lines but I don't think it's even worth conversing with those who fall outside those parameters.

If the only thing you know about guns is that you don't like them and want to take them away from everyone. We don't have much to talk about unless you're willing to change your mind.


Likewise if you think private citizens need to be as well armed as government agents. Again we have little to talk about. I don't believe private citizens should own their own nukes, Nor 155mm Artillery, Nor even RPGs Recoiless Rifles, nor LAW (SHRAAW) or other AT launchers.

And without those, all arguments about being free of government tyranny are moot.

So it comes down to what's reasonable for Home Defense, Hunting, Pest Control, and Self Defense.

I think there is room for REGULATED private ownership within those parameters. But that's me. Your Mileage May Vary.
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Only psychotic people should have guns.
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mel1844 wrote:

In the states.. I doubt it. Here in places without quiete that level of proliferation perhaps yes. I don't know, and I'm not sure I agree with the person you quoted but... on the other hand.


http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=940
The source is the Bureau of Justice Statistics.
In addition to about 40% of guns used by inmates being bought illegally, another 40% obtained their firearms from family or friends.
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nocandy4u wrote:


mel1844 wrote:

In the states.. I doubt it. Here in places without quiete that level of proliferation perhaps yes. I don't know, and I'm not sure I agree with the person you quoted but... on the other hand.


http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=940
The source is the Bureau of Justice Statistics.
In addition to about 40% of guns used by inmates being bought illegally, another 40% obtained their firearms from family or friends.


I meant that I doubted that making guns illegal would cause illegal guns to disappear from the states.

In countries that don't have your level of proliferation. perhaps it's a valid option.

Problem is. Guns have an incredibly long shelf life.

Other problem in the states is that attacking gun ownership is also an indirect attack (wheather lefties admit it or not) on free speech, freedom of assembly and the right not to have troops billeted in your home in a time of peace. Among other rights.

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Of course. Anyone who thinks otherwise is naive... If guns are banned then law obeying citizens will give up their arms - the criminals won't be giving up their guns.
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Sure, take away people's rights to own guns. Then criminals will have even more power. Last time I checked, they don't care about rules and laws.

Do you think those massacres would have happened on the scale they did if they knew others were packing? No. They always go for places where there is little to no chance of such.
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You get into trouble when you start telling people what they can and can't own. I oppose making guns illegal for two reasons.

First, it would create a completely unregulated black market for firearms. Imagine if everyone who wants a gun now buys them off the street instead of going through proper channels. How many guns that are documented now will fall off the grid? Is this safer? The only way to prevent this is to set the penalty for owning guns so high that people will not risk their freedom over the issue. Which brings me to point number two.

Loss of civil liberties. Is it right for our society to lock people up for owning a gun, even if they never intended to harm anyone with it? Some people may say yes but that is not a decision you can make lightly. And it's not one you can expect a consensus on anytime soon.
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Yes, in America it's written in the Bill of Rights, and they go crazy when you try to f*ck with their rights.
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VanillePink wrote:

no.
Guns shouldn't exist.


Unfortunately, they do. In fact they are so easy to make that any jerk with access to a lathe and a milling machine can create a gun in next to no time. I knew of several kids in my High School in the mid 60's who made guns in shop class when the teacher wasn't looking.

The only way to protect yourself from criminals with guns is to either lock yourself in a bullet proof room and stay there for your entire life or accept that you need to be armed yourself. To paraphrase Machiavelli: "If you want to be respected you must be well armed". That is as true today as it was in the 15th century. Human nature hasn't changed in all that time and pretending that it has is wishful thinking of the worst sort, the kind that gets you killed.

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First of all why got think real here of YES OR NO?
What country not world as whole?
Reason y?
Im from US n Its MY RIGHT TO OWN A GUN!!!
But I want BETTER FILTERING SYSTEM IN MY COUNTRY TO PREVENT SICKOS in getting one?
I have gun for last resort ONLY thats all for me?
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NoahVenom wrote:

First of all why got think real here of YES OR NO?
What country not world as whole?
Reason y?
Im from US n Its MY RIGHT TO OWN A GUN!!!
But I want BETTER FILTERING SYSTEM IN MY COUNTRY TO PREVENT SICKOS in getting one?
I have gun for last resort ONLY thats all for me?


You should have the right of protection, equality, and happiness. You should not have the right to own a gun.

Those 'sickos', are nothing less than broken people. People break easily

A good gov should not allow citizens to use gun, but then again, there is no such thing as a good gov in this world, so keep your gun close
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NoahVenom wrote:

First of all why got think real here of YES OR NO?
What country not world as whole?
Reason y?
Im from US n Its MY RIGHT TO OWN A GUN!!!
But I want BETTER FILTERING SYSTEM IN MY COUNTRY TO PREVENT SICKOS in getting one?
I have gun for last resort ONLY thats all for me?


errr.. What?

sorry would you care to rephrase that for greater clarity. I'm afraid that I honestly don't understand what you are trying to say.


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