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Post Reply Should people be allowed to own guns?
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Posted 12/31/12

maxiozieon wrote:

I don't think we should have guns allowed for concealed carry or in the public but at home I have no problem with it. In person the main argument is that someone with a gun can save people's lives by killing the gunman before damage but what if everyone had a gun on them? Would they start shooting each other once they see one person with a gun and then another person with a gun. It's too hard to determine friend or foe during a panicked situation unless you are professionally trained by SWAT or Police.

I believe that if everyone had a gun on them the situations with mass murder will be worse because of all the innocent civilians shooting each other.


Would they start shooting each other? No, a concealed carry person will be trying to get out of the area, not going into it. The rule is "the fight avoided is the fight won". If the concealed carry person did have to draw the firearm, They would also be pointing there firearm down and taking cover. The "Crazy" would be shooting at people. You can only fire if your life is in danger under self defense, and there is probably a lawyer attached to every bullet. There has never been a report of concealed carry people just shooting at random after an attack starts. There has been many times that unarmed people being trapped by a gunman shooting people until another shows up with a gun to stop them.

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1. Get out of the area. A moving target is also harder to hit.
2. If the "Crazy" is so close you can not get out, you know who it is.
3. Good guys with guns will be showing up, they do not know who you are and they will be a little twitchy. Do not go waving a gun around.
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snottyenglishgirl wrote:


Daharkas wrote:

If people didn't own guns, everything would just devolve into swordfights.


but they dont work so well in a drive-by....or from the top of a clocktower



That's why it should be the types of guns that are limited!
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Posted 1/2/13
Solution:

Instead of banning guns, simply remove all poison warning labels off household cleaning supplies. Problem will fix itself in time.
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If guns are illegal there would be no need for them to be used for defensive purposes.

Guns are the most lethal weapon out there, one of very few that you can't arm yourself against.
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mel1844 wrote:

If guns are illegal there would be no need for them to be used for defensive purposes.

Guns are the most lethal weapon out there, one of very few that you can't arm yourself against.


Do you truly believe that?

Guns are illegal in many places, yet those who oppress gain access to them because they simply don't care about the law.

The only thing banning guns would do is take them out of the hands of responsible users.
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Yes, and I plan to own some just because they are fun.
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Posted 1/2/13

mel1844 wrote:

If guns are illegal there would be no need for them to be used for defensive purposes.

Are you saying that if guns were made illegal, then the illegally owned ones would disappear?
Also according to one source, 39.2% of all guns used by inmates were bought from an illegal source.
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Uh yes. I believe it can be used for protection and self-defense. Guns don't hurt people, people hurt people. Period.
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Posted 1/3/13

nocandy4u wrote:


mel1844 wrote:

If guns are illegal there would be no need for them to be used for defensive purposes.

Are you saying that if guns were made illegal, then the illegally owned ones would disappear?
Also according to one source, 39.2% of all guns used by inmates were bought from an illegal source.


In the states.. I doubt it. Here in places without quiete that level of proliferation perhaps yes. I don't know, and I'm not sure I agree with the person you quoted but... on the other hand.

you have 7 times the violent crime per capita that my country has. and assuming around 400 million to our 40 million people, 10 times the Capita

that means we hear about crime in the US 70 times more often than we hear about it at home.

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There are more ways than one to kill. Poison, cultured disease, homemade explosive, construction vehicles, blades, fire, a man with enough hatred or loathing in his heart will find a way. You should all feel good that people aren't cultivating deadly diseases. You know easy it would be? Do you know how many diseases there are and how the world is always on the cusp of a new biological outbreak? No? OK. Everyone should just chill about guns and worry about the real dangers. Instead of thinking 30 dead, think...the hundreds of thousands. I know, I sound like I've seen too many movies. All it takes is someone who has even a basic amount of training and the right materials, enough hate or political ambition, and there could be mountains of corpses.

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Yes they should, how many psycho rogue governments have there been who have disarmed their people and slowly just took them out through out the decades with snatch and grab tactics which created thousands of cases of missing people. Guns are a necessary evil and in the right hands someone could save your life, to all those passive people who don't like guns cause their scary... seriously go **** yourself you are obviously too god dam naive to understand the argument and if people are fooled by these suspicious shootings lately cause the idiot box keep changing the story (which is obvious bullshit) seriously **** off from this thread entirely. This is a serious discussion that is meant for people who understand why the 2nd Amendment is being attacked, Obama and his crooked Business friends want complete control just like Stalin and Shitler and Mao had it (Russia,Germany,China) and look how many decades the governments militarized police, raped,murdered, abduct and sell into slavery the citizens. It's still going on too depending where you are in that part of the world,since those countries can't clean up the mess of the past which was obviously created to seek control. People would have a better understanding of this if the united states government didn't hide everything like stupid little brat.
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To quote an old saying, when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.

It is my firm belief that guns are only a tool. The active force behind the gun is the person using the thing. Drunk drivers kill more people than guns do, but do you hear anybody screaming to ban cars? And what about 9/11? Anyone wanting to ban airplanes? I used to own a couple guns myself, but I had to sell them because we were flat broke at the time. I plan on getting one soon for personal protection. I am a firm believer in the 2nd Amendment. Just about anything can be used as a weapon, be it an axe, a shovel, a rope, even a pencil. These may not be quite as efficient as a gun, but the fact remains. Anyone with some smarts can turn anything into a weapon. I plan to keep me and mine safe.
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http://youtu.be/tXfVDrp0mWw This is the uneducated lazy level, the cronie government will go to ban weapons.
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Posted 1/3/13, edited 1/3/13
If Americans they a look at western countries where guns are illegal you will see you are actually a lot safer without a gun. Because there would still be illegal guns, but far less. A lot of illegal guns where once legal.
It's also feeding fear and coming from fear.
Also, in most cases you would not be able to use it.
If someone points a gun at you at point blank you give him your wallet.
If you don't he has your wallet AND your life.
That's my opinion, yours may differ.
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