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Tibet Will Never Be Free
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Posted 5/1/08
free tibet free tibet
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Its people in the westen that is jealous of china growth.... thats why they purposely created.... things like the "Tibetians should be free".... this is just to weaken china.....

They say that they have the right to rule for their own race.... and break free from china.....

Lame.... the western are thr one who attacked the Natives that was staying there in the first place .... and claim the land as theirs.... and they still have the face to tell china to give the tibetian freadom when the tibetian have been part of china way longer that their country history
Posted 5/13/08 , edited 5/13/08

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Most people also don't seem to realize that who the Dalai Lama is to his believers. He is the 14th reincarnation of a 700 year old theocrat for gods sake. I mean they get all pissed when religion and government mix in America (rightly so imho) , and yet want to make Tibet a theocracy.

I agree. No theocracy is good, even a Buddhist one. In the time of the historical Buddha this would have been completely unthinkable. Not only could nobody even begin to suggest that a forest ascetic become a king (that would be an utter oxymoron) but the Buddha's monks were generally forbidden from working for kings or doing any kind of government-related job or task.


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Well, we also should take into consideration Tibet's natural resources. >.> It is said that in Tibet are potentially massive oil and gas find.

Yes, this is true.



But I would just like to say, that some people here said that Tibet doesn't want to be free, but I seriously doubt that this statement is in any way true. And also we shouldn't forget that Tibet has been oppressed for over 50 years now, and I don't think that anyone would want to support any more of this oppressions, at least as a Tibetan not. The Tibetians have been slaughtered by the Chinese governement for quite a while now....I doubt that anybody would like to stay with this governement..

The Dalai Lama admits that Tibet gets lots of aid and services from China and he doesn't want to give this up. He says they don't want independence but "autonomy" (whatever that means). So I think he doesn't want it to leave China because he wants the stuff they get from China, but he still wants to be in charge somehow.

It isn't that China is innocent, but Tibet isn't really innocent either. The Tibetan government has committed rights abuses against its own people which isn't surprising since it's a theocracy.

If the Dalai Lama really wants to improve Tibet and help improve the rest of china he should declare an end to the Tibetan theocracy and demand democracy (or some sort of more representative/accountable government) for Tibet. This might help spread democracy throughout China.

If he were to declare an end to Tibetan theocracy RIGHT NOW it would be much much harder for China to claim that he really wants to take over and separate Tibet. Unfortunately I think this theocracy wants to continue to rule Tibet even if it isn't what's actually good for Tibet.
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Posted 5/14/08 , edited 5/14/08
Tibet, like most neighbouring regions of China have a strong historical relationship with it. In the Tang dynasty, the marriage of a Chinese Princess to a Tibetian chieftain was instrumental in converting Tibet into Buddhism. In addition, during the Ching dynasty the dalai lama was often used as a figurehead by the Ching emperors. So it is easy to see why the Chinese communist government would see Tibet as part of their land and annex it in the 20th Century (forget about human rights and autonomy...China still doesn't recognise them for its own ppl, let alone its 'colonies').

Anyway, regarding the freedom of Tibet...lets just say that due to international pressure, China will put on a facade in Tibets case. However, if any other territories like Mongolia etc. attempt the same thing they better watch out...coz I think China will definitely nip the bud before it blossoms and they will do it unscrupulously and secretly as well...
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Question why do we even care about the affairs of another country. All the stupid hippees out there fail to realize that most eastern governments do not care what the rest of the world thinks about them. So trying to make china cave to outside political pressure is not going to happen, short of a small war.

Plus again who cares? There are more important local things to worry about then another territory's struggles.
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if people want to free tibet then....

i think every other country out there who still have aboriginals should return the land to the aboriginals.

australian aboriginals should get their own land back - it's THEIR land and were wrongfully taken away from them by the english so it could be their 'prison'... and the aboriginals were not treated well. they were discriminated by white australians - even though it's THEIR land. it was only this year that the australian government apologised to aboriginals - TALK about human rights.

and native indians should get their land back from the white americans.

and many other more countries...

have the western countries ever apologised to all the nations they've ever invaded? apologised to the people they wrongfully discriminated, abused and humiliated?

people are getting so gung-ho about this whole 'free tibet' thing cos it makes it sounds 'righteous'. COME ON. if they really did care about tibet, why didn't this protest happen MUCH earlier? why now?it's been almost 40 years since china took control over tibet again.
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Posted 5/17/08 , edited 5/17/08

shuyi000 wrote:

Its people in the westen that is jealous of china growth.... thats why they purposely created.... things like the "Tibetians should be free".... this is just to weaken china.....

They say that they have the right to rule for their own race.... and break free from china.....

Lame.... the western are thr one who attacked the Natives that was staying there in the first place .... and claim the land as theirs.... and they still have the face to tell china to give the tibetian freadom when the tibetian have been part of china way longer that their country history



I do think that this may be possible. I mean come on! Africa has it much much worse yet they're barely talking about it. China's growing economy is a threat.


------and what would Tibet do with the freedom if they would gain it?
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zeamaes wrote:


shuyi000 wrote:

Its people in the westen that is jealous of china growth.... thats why they purposely created.... things like the "Tibetians should be free".... this is just to weaken china.....

They say that they have the right to rule for their own race.... and break free from china.....

Lame.... the western are thr one who attacked the Natives that was staying there in the first place .... and claim the land as theirs.... and they still have the face to tell china to give the tibetian freadom when the tibetian have been part of china way longer that their country history



I do think that this may be possible. I mean come on! Africa has it much much worse yet they're barely talking about it. China's growing economy is a threat.


------and what would Tibet do with the freedom if they would gain it?



Thank you for agreeing with what i said
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Tibet will never have its freedom because if that were to happen, Taiwan would cause a much larger problem than it already has and so will Hong Kong.

I don't get people, I mean why would you want freedom when you are being ruled by a country that is continuously growing and is getting stronger by the minute. And do people realise that at least Tibet has the Chinese government. What about other countries whose people are being tormented such as Myanmar. The people living there are suffering due to corruption. I'm saying that we ought to look at the needy.
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Taiwan's official name is the Republic of China Hong Kong is already part of China as a special administrative region. Tibetans have freedom they are exempt from the one child policy exempted from taxes(rural folks i think) and they have freedom of religion before 1959 Tibet was a feudal slave society run by the Lamas
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Nuke China AND Tibet, dont forget Russia and the US
this whole China-Tibet-Freedom-Dalai Lama talkings are getting too annoying.
the first Post summs it up, NUKE the hippies!
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Posted 6/3/08

amka wrote:

Nuke China AND Tibet, dont forget Russia and the US
this whole China-Tibet-Freedom-Dalai Lama talkings are getting too annoying.
the first Post summs it up, NUKE the hippies!


Do you by any chance,live in a big white house in Washington?
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Posted 6/3/08
People said humans would never land on the moon, but then we did(now I don't know about that DAMIT) but w.e.

Just beacasue you say it will never happen, that just your(and possibly others) apinion, we have ours too. And if we just give up then yes it will never happen. Though I'm not out there trying to get it free, I don't know alot about it, but I know that if enough people try it can happen(damit why did that sound like it was from an anime lol)
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I think that even if China let Tibet become independent, they wouldn't exactly be able to support themselves. But then again, China should let other governments exist in the country as well. I mean, everyone knows it's not really Communist anymore.
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Tibet was always part of China and was never recognized as an independent nation
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