Jozephz wrote:
wiggy wrote:
If people believe in the existence of God then people should also believe there is a meaning to life. I have no doubt in my mind that God exists. Look at the structure of the DNA. Its
design is so intricate and complex that it is calculated that a chain of DNA small enough to fill a teaspoon has the capacity to store all the information contained in all the books ever written! Such an amazing structure could have never occurred by chance. Let alone the creation of the universe and everything in it. In fact Francist Crick and James Watson after discovering the DNA, (being confirmed dawirnists themselves) admit such a structure as complicated as the DNA could have never occurred by a mere coincidence.
Therefore I see the existence of God to be undeniable. An so if God does exist so must there be a reason for him to create us.
Hmmm....I'm not so sure. I'd like to ask a question - do you believe in fate? Do you believe that humans have no choice? If you don't, I'd say that pretty much makes your argument void. This, I believe, is due to the huge amount of chance we experiance every day of our lives.
Here is a simple example. Say, someone stops you and talks to you. Then, you say goodbye, walk off and slip on a wet floor and break your neck. Imagine the web of chance leading to this moment. Why is the floor wet? Imagine the amount of people involved in this, the exact specifications needed, the intricate timing, required to bring you to that exact moment, everything from the amount of time you stopped to talk, to the position of your foot as it hit the ground. Does this seem like mere chance to you? It seems to me like it was planned out. It seems like it has structure. And so does DNA. Its incredibly, mind bogglingly complex, it seems like it could never be chance. Yet, if you believe in free-will (and if you believe in God, you probably do) then how can you say it was not (possibly) chance? It seems to me that the amount of pure chance that goes on everyday is just as complicated, if not more so, than DNA.
haha I think you are so backwards! Just the fact that your trying to wrap your head around such a detailed and intricate event (a simple event too as you noted) shows to me exactly how random it is. Every single event, me blinking, you picking your nose, the falling of a leaf, a growing plant-everything is in a constant state of event. Your picking one of these events and trying to show how it has been specifically programmed to happen just that way. I think everything, even you thinking about it, is happening and that proves just how random it all is. If you look at events like they are in the past I don't think you can get the correct perspective. Its like your trying to look through the tip of a branch to see everything that lead it there, how all the little curves and directions it went are specifically done to get to that point at the end. But thats silly, the branch still grows! haha Isn't it odd to say it was specifically programmed for this point, then a little later its again specifically programmed for the next point, and the next, and the next. Your looking backwards while your still moving forwards. And not to mention your trying to pick out specific points when its more like a flow of change and "happening". I see it as looking from the base and seeing everything happening leading it to new places and because of the events around it affecting it, which are separate and random in their own way.
not like existence is a giant jigsaw puzzle with everything affecting something else in a way that its all one big fat fated path. Its not planned out. Everything may be affecting something else but its certainly not your place to look at it as limited in any way at all. Thats the same thing your doing here. What is done is simply a path the "happening" walks on.. "walks" as in current tense. Im not trying to put the whole thing of existence in a frozen picture and show how intricate it all
was or how it got to that frozen frame, I say look at how everything is always going, moving, growing, whatever-in a state of event or happening. We're looking from different directions. You, looking at it like your sitting on the hood of a car staring back through the windshield watching things zoom away and freezing it every so often to see how crazy the detail is that led you to that point, and me, as the driver who makes and chooses and leads the path wherever, never stopping for you to put it into your frozen frame. There is no end result for you to look at mister. Its a constantly changing world and even your DNA is changing (although slow enough for you to absentmindedly take a position of it being a product of all the recorded time until the point you study it). It's not stopped for you to look at it, it's changing and you cant look at something that is changing as something that is stopped. You cant even say, "Well look its changing, okay, but its changing to lead it to that one point its programmed to," because the whole point is that it's constantly current and happening, changing and "eventing"(? O.o) Watch the plant grow instead of trying to see it as a line of constant programmed steps. You cant separate the change from its next point because its flowing. And you certainly cant see the end result of its changing because it hasn't happened yet. (giggles)
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