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Are Japanese artists becoming too "Americanized"?
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I've noticed a lot of similarities between many of today's Japanese musical artists and American artists. But, if you look further back in time, the Japanese used to have their own styles of music and looks. Do you think that America has influenced Japanese artists away rom their traditional styles into more American styles? Discuss.
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I don't think that's an issue exclusive to the japanese, it can be observed all over the world. I think things have gotten alot worse with hip hop. When it was rock, local artists would find a way to make it work for them, but with hip hop people seem terribley quick to conform to the style, fashion, and sound with little room given to express local culture (though some manage to pull it off).

I've always found it ironic how many people complain about america shoving our culutre down everyone's throat, but yet the locals are the ones purchasing and emulating it...
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Everything is americanised, next thing you know all the planets of this galaxy are amercanised.
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^ Agreed Bellus


azrael910 wrote:

I don't think that's an issue exclusive to the japanese, it can be observed all over the world. I think things have gotten alot worse with hip hop. When it was rock, local artists would find a way to make it work for them, but with hip hop people seem terribley quick to conform to the style, fashion, and sound with little room given to express local culture (though some manage to pull it off).

I've always found it ironic how many people complain about america shoving our culutre down everyone's throat, but yet the locals are the ones purchasing and emulating it...


Very true, that hypocritical attitude is unfortunately big in Latin America, although sometimes it is shoved down our throats, not by Americans but by local entertainment companies for example; leaving no choice but to watch super copied reality shows and late night talk shows.
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tradition is so boring....slow enka......well it's for old people so lol....young people liks americanized or somthin close to Japanese R&B.....and im glad that japanese dont sing country songs
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Japanese r&b? i have souru?
Anyway

since america is going down the cultural and economic porto-potty , no offense to any americans this is purely my own oppinion and do feel free to flame me but this only represents my view on America as a whole not at each individual person, its highly likely that a giant shift will occur in the following 10 years where:
A.) america gets back on track both culturally and economically and is the #1 country again.
B.) America will become the epidome of bad TV with Paris Hilton drawings hanging in art museoms and bad reality shows run rampant all over the globe to the point of there being an Antarctic Idol.

i do like the old hollywood black and white movies, i love old gangster and western movies but the stuff that they are showing nowadays are just so BAD, the stale plots and plot twists that youve always seen are still alive and kicking, alot of schools dont even have P.E. anymore, but this all leads me up to thinking that the world will eighter:
A.) Follow suit with america and keep americaniseing until everyone eats all 3 meals at mcdonalds(im not saying that every american eats all 3 meals at mcdonalds or any fast food place at that, but to be honest alot of them do).
B.) Turn away and start thinking up their own pointless reality shows.


Anyway i hope americanisation stops and we can all enjoy the nice ruthless money-hungry japanese society that we all read about in history books.
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I find that Japanese artists, as well as most people that contribute to the Japanese culture, basically take the American culture and exaggerate it. (visual kei, anyone?)
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well it was bound to happen, in order to reach, or appeal to a larger audience, they have changed their drawing style
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well.. do you guys think china will have a chance on beating america since their population is getting bigger and bigger.....and hey also have a big influence in the world..
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I don't see anime becoming "americanized". The day I see a spongebob rip-off on CR is the day I look for a new hobby.

People may be confused with the fact that japanese animes are almost entirely done digitally. This improvement in quality and presence may be misunderstood as a "americanization". Just because shows are looking better year after year it doesn't mean they're being influenced by something else. That's just the industry evolving and taking advantage of its resources.

Better doesn't always mean americanized.
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uh I thought we were talking about musical artists not Anime.
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In my experience, the only people that really go off on this are the Dir en grey fangirls. They're hellbent on believing that the American tours are doing nothing but ruin that band.
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kawaiichan09 wrote:

well.. do you guys think china will have a chance on beating america since their population is getting bigger and bigger.....and hey also have a big influence in the world..


Actually everyone in my family thinks thats ought to happen sooner or later, considering how much money we are using on Iraq. (Why? I don't know, our president is an idiot.) And plus China does have a big impact on alot of things..notice everything is made from China --;

Back to the topic >.> I think japanese music is highly influenced by america, just look at the rockers. But they also did keep some originality, like the fan-service in the middle of concerts. LOL. -_-
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bubbles wrote:

I don't see anime becoming "americanized". The day I see a spongebob rip-off on CR is the day I look for a new hobby.

People may be confused with the fact that japanese animes are almost entirely done digitally. This improvement in quality and presence may be misunderstood as a "americanization". Just because shows are looking better year after year it doesn't mean they're being influenced by something else. That's just the industry evolving and taking advantage of its resources.

Better doesn't always mean americanized.


Ah, the mystery has been solved. You win a free planet.

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bubbles wrote:

I don't see anime becoming "americanized". The day I see a spongebob rip-off on CR is the day I look for a new hobby.

People may be confused with the fact that japanese animes are almost entirely done digitally. This improvement in quality and presence may be misunderstood as a "americanization". Just because shows are looking better year after year it doesn't mean they're being influenced by something else. That's just the industry evolving and taking advantage of its resources.

Better doesn't always mean americanized.


Where the hell did you pull that from? I don't think anyone has been questioning that in the least. Did you read any of the previous posts?


Dularc wrote:

since america is going down the cultural and economic porto-potty , no offense to any americans this is purely my own oppinion and do feel free to flame me but this only represents my view on America as a whole not at each individual person, its highly likely that a giant shift will occur in the following 10 years where:
A.) america gets back on track both culturally and economically and is the #1 country again.
B.) America will become the epidome of bad TV with Paris Hilton drawings hanging in art museoms and bad reality shows run rampant all over the globe to the point of there being an Antarctic Idol.

i do like the old hollywood black and white movies, i love old gangster and western movies but the stuff that they are showing nowadays are just so BAD, the stale plots and plot twists that youve always seen are still alive and kicking, alot of schools dont even have P.E. anymore, but this all leads me up to thinking that the world will eighter:
A.) Follow suit with america and keep americaniseing until everyone eats all 3 meals at mcdonalds(im not saying that every american eats all 3 meals at mcdonalds or any fast food place at that, but to be honest alot of them do).
B.) Turn away and start thinking up their own pointless reality shows.


Anyway i hope americanisation stops and we can all enjoy the nice ruthless money-hungry japanese society that we all read about in history books.
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Right now America is on the brink of change, and has been for a couple of years now. The problem has been inactive leadership unwilling to move the country forward. Things are getting better, and America is getting healthier. Even McDonald's is making an effort to put healthier things on the menu, and alot of newer restaurants are very health conscious. America has recognized that there is a problem, we're just slowly adjusting our lifestyle to fix it.

American public education is a disaster and most likely always will be, even aside from physical education. The problem is people who are incapable of doing anything else in this world end up becoming teachers. Any one with a thimble full of intelligence or talent would never dream of working in public education. And we wonder why our kids are morons - they're being taught by them.

Another problem is the entertainment industry is completely out of touch with america. The fact that we'd rather watch a jackass goof off in front of his webcam on youtube than watch TV should say something. The fact that some of the most succesfull movies are sequels should say something. There are good movies being made, but most people never actually run into them. Hollywood doesn't understand America anymore.

I find myself watching more and more classic movies than I used to. Why? Because they were actually good, and they show me a time when America didn't suck. What the hell happened to guys like Gregory Peck, Humphrey Bogart, and Cary Grant? What the hell happened to women like Audrey Hepburn, Lauren Bacall, and Ingrid Bergman? I know they're not all american, but they were involved in the american film industry. Why the hell are we stuck with Paris Hilton and her brat pack? There are some actors/actresses restoring a bit of dignity to hollywood, but they're seldom being given films to showcase their talents. Don't even get me started on the cessapool that is american mainstream music, though it is leaps and bounds better than when I was in high school (late nineties). The entertainment industry has lost all dignity and common sense. There is good stuff out there, it's just most people don't want to put in the effort to dig it up - and I can't say that I blame them. Even in the indie film scene there is a ton of garbage you have to sift through.


kawaiichan09 wrote:
well.. do you guys think china will have a chance on beating america since their population is getting bigger and bigger.....and hey also have a big influence in the world..


China is a force to be reckoned with and will continue to become more so. I myself am about to start learning chinese just to be marketable in the new global economy. Will they surpass America? I don't know, but they're certainly capable of it. America is going to have to make alot of changes to stay on top, fortunetly I think we're finally starting to get the willpower to makes those changes.

I think that's another factor in the issue - up untill the past 15-20 years, america has been capable of being pretty isolationist. We're truly starting to live in a global society and that attitude isn't working anymore.


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Actually everyone in my family thinks thats ought to happen sooner or later, considering how much money we are using on Iraq. (Why? I don't know, our president is an idiot.) And plus China does have a big impact on alot of things..notice everything is made from China --;


News flash: We are Iraq for oil price fixing and excessive defense contract spending. That's it folks. That's why there are 3000 dead american soldiers. So those in power could stuff their pockets full while they're on top. That's why we went after Iraq instead of more significant threats like Iran, Saudi, etc. Oil price fixing. Aghganistan, yeah that's fair, the genuinely was a den of vipers. But Iraq? Hell, they're the only technically athiest state there! I'm not saying Saddamn was a good guy, but it was in our benefit to leave him in power and focus on Iran (hell, saddam was keeping him in line - notice how they start getting cocky as soon we "liberated" Iraq). Now with a full blown war going on, you can legitimize absurd defense contract spending. Anytime they ask for money, that's what they're really asking for. Alot of people are getting very rich because of this war. Think it's coinciedental that a miltary contracter is the vice president and an member of oil industry is the president and we magically find a reasons to declare war in the middle east?

The good news is America not only wants to change, but we are finally after years of denial developing the will to change. We've got a long ways to go, but it looks like winter is starting to thaw at last.

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