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Can a meaningful romantic relationship exist between an adult and a child?
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Posted 5/20/08

popezeke wrote:

I have thought a lot about this subject, and despite all the bashing about this subject few people really touch on this. They are too busy either defending their lolicon pic folders or screaming bloody murder about those wicked child rapists to consider the real implications of a relationship between an adult and child.

As a proud lolicon, I am growing weary about people ignorantly bashing my compatriots, and Chris Hanson's To Catch a Predator is possibly the most useless effort ever devised by television.

However I do not approve of child rapists, child pornographers and the like. Rape is one of the great acts of evil committed by humans, and people who put children through such pain deserve nothing but the full wrath of a bullet.

But while all this flaming is going on, few people really consider this:

If a consenting adult and a willing child existed, do you believe a meaningful relationship could exist? Us lolicons can dream all we want, and the haters can sputter all they want, but I want to know what you guys think. I'm not trolling. Promise.

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a child and an adult?
i don't recommend it but i guess i am not in the position to stop love, ayt?
it may contradict with certain norms in the society but for two people who are in love,
the opinion of the public is not that important anymore.

if the adult is responsible and the child is willing enough... i won't hinder them.
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Its tough to say really. I dont believe children have a firm grasp on what love really is, so its difficult to get involved in a serious relationship with them. Not only that, there is a distinct difference between love and attraction. For an older person to be attracted to a child is simpy an attraction to the looks of the child, nothing more. Love requires both physical attraction, and mental attraction, if you will. There must be a redeeming personality trait that you like in a person, which is very difficult to find in a child, as their personality constantly changes as they grow.

Some people may dream about it, others may find it repulsive, but odds are, its not possible, and thats how it should be.
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this is a really intressting topic .


example:a 15 years old girl can be togheter with a 18 years old guy, nothing wrong even if they just playing around , but if it is 20 to 25 years old guy it so sad thats he/she playing aound with teenangers , thats what i think.


and seriously everybody that call the topic creator are a pedophile , you just judge beacuse he ask you a question ? thats so stupid.
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Personally, I think that it is okay. ON THE CONDITION that the older person waits until the child is 18. If the child comes of age and still "loves" that person, then by all means. But if u don't wait, then I don't think you should wait to go to hell either.
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popezeke wrote:

I have thought a lot about this subject, and despite all the bashing about this subject few people really touch on this. They are too busy either defending their lolicon pic folders or screaming bloody murder about those wicked child rapists to consider the real implications of a relationship between an adult and child.

As a proud lolicon, I am growing weary about people ignorantly bashing my compatriots, and Chris Hanson's To Catch a Predator is possibly the most useless effort ever devised by television.

However I do not approve of child rapists, child pornographers and the like. Rape is one of the great acts of evil committed by humans, and people who put children through such pain deserve nothing but the full wrath of a bullet.

But while all this flaming is going on, few people really consider this:

If a consenting adult and a willing child existed, do you believe a meaningful relationship could exist? Us lolicons can dream all we want, and the haters can sputter all they want, but I want to know what you guys think. I'm not trolling. Promise.

sound off



Well let's think about it. As a small child were you contemplating the sort of serious sexual and emotional relationships that adults have? I sincerely doubt it. though children are not the completely asexual beings we often think of them as, I do not think the thoughts about the birds and the bees you had at the age of say 9, when you look at a member of the opposite sex , are the same ones you have as an adult. I don't think it would be possible for a child to comprehend or be comfortable with the complicated emotions that come with sex and love within an adult relationship.

Also, part of being able to be happy within a romantic relationship is about being happy within yourself. As a child you haven't had the same time to grow into an independent person able to make strong choices about what they want. It would be very easy for a child to be goaded into a relationship by an adult, without realising the implications of what they are unwittingly consenting to.

Then there is also there sex. within a romantic relationship, sex is very important and not only would sex with an adult be emotionally traumatising for a child, who most likely not understand what was going on, it would also do them serious physically damage as they would not be fully developed, even in the case of young teens in the middle of puberty.

Also another part of a relationship would be relating to the person in a non physical manner. Do you honestly think you would be able to have an intellectual conversation with a prepubescent child? Pedophiles often compare themselves to homosexuals, that it's "just another preference", however, homosexuality is about having a relationship, like that of heterosexual one, between two consenting adults who love and care for each other. Pedophilia, however, has an unavoidable time limit. People do not stay children forever. Does the relationship end once the child reaches puberty?

Even if but some act unreal oddity did a child understand the relationship and was willing, no responsible parent in hell would let you get within fifty feet of their child.

Personally, I don't think it would ever be possible for all these reasons and more, hopefully so as I'd rue the day i I ever saw an adult taking advantage of a child that way.

Edit: my argument is based on the idea of a child of 10yrs or less dating an adult who is 25yrs upwards.
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Origin of 'lolita' was a book, but I know most of you dont read, so here's the film adaption.

http://www.tvokay.com/movie/lolita.htm

Go watch it, you'll have some more insight into the topic.
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Personally, I think so. People think that children don't really understand what love is and hey, I bet more than half of them really don't. But never say never, I think there's at least some children that understand love and can love a adult romantically. If the child knows what he or she is getting into, realizes that it isn't just a game, isn't raped or molested or hurt in any way by the adult, I think a serious romantic relationship is possible if they both really do like each other.

Edit: Eh. Looked at the other replies. I'm kind of stupid so can someone tell me is a romantic relationship just about sex? I mean, I always thought it was something like some mushy love story but from the replies I've seen it seems like every romantic relationship is just sex sex sex. *shiver* I feel awkward typing that word.


You see, pedophiles love children because... they're children. It's not the person they fall in love with. When a child grows up, it won't be a child anymore and the relationship will end.
It's not only because children aren't mature enough to understand that kind of love...

I don't think a serious love relationship can exist between a child and an adult.
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anime_otaku-nerd wrote:

Personally, I think so. People think that children don't really understand what love is and hey, I bet more than half of them really don't. But never say never, I think there's at least some children that understand love and can love a adult romantically. If the child knows what he or she is getting into, realizes that it isn't just a game, isn't raped or molested or hurt in any way by the adult, I think a serious romantic relationship is possible if they both really do like each other.

Edit: Eh. Looked at the other replies. I'm kind of stupid so can someone tell me is a romantic relationship just about sex? I mean, I always thought it was something like some mushy love story but from the replies I've seen it seems like every romantic relationship is just sex sex sex. *shiver* I feel awkward typing that word.


You see, pedophiles love children because... they're children. It's not the person they fall in love with. When a child grows up, it won't be a child anymore and the relationship will end.
It's not only because children aren't mature enough to understand that kind of love...

I don't think a serious love relationship can exist between a child and an adult.


Sorry, I just kind of took this thread as: "Can a child and adult truly love each other?" rather then, "Can a child and a pedophile truly love each other?" I don't mean to be rude or anything but everyone just assumes any adult that loves a kid is a pedophile. It never crossed their mine that maybe he or she is just open to any age and truly loves that child, not caring about their age.
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anime_otaku-nerd wrote:


Hitoli wrote:


anime_otaku-nerd wrote:

Personally, I think so. People think that children don't really understand what love is and hey, I bet more than half of them really don't. But never say never, I think there's at least some children that understand love and can love a adult romantically. If the child knows what he or she is getting into, realizes that it isn't just a game, isn't raped or molested or hurt in any way by the adult, I think a serious romantic relationship is possible if they both really do like each other.

Edit: Eh. Looked at the other replies. I'm kind of stupid so can someone tell me is a romantic relationship just about sex? I mean, I always thought it was something like some mushy love story but from the replies I've seen it seems like every romantic relationship is just sex sex sex. *shiver* I feel awkward typing that word.


You see, pedophiles love children because... they're children. It's not the person they fall in love with. When a child grows up, it won't be a child anymore and the relationship will end.
It's not only because children aren't mature enough to understand that kind of love...

I don't think a serious love relationship can exist between a child and an adult.


Sorry, I just kind of took this thread as: "Can a child and adult truly love each other?" rather then, "Can a child and a pedophile truly love each other?" I don't mean to be rude or anything but everyone just assumes any adult that loves a kid is a pedophile. It never crossed their mine that maybe he or she is just open to any age and truly loves that child, not caring about their age.


The word comes from the Greek paidophilia (παιδοφιλία): pais (παις, "child") and philia (φιλία, "love, friendship").
I see what you mean, but in my opinion it's wrong to have that kind of relationship with a child. If you truly love that child, wait untill he/she hits the age of >16 and is able to say for themselves what they want or don't want.
Because children just are in a really different stage of their lives than adults, I think they shouldn't be involved in serious relationships. Not with other children, and especially not with adults.
I want to be able to have a conversation of a decent level with my partner, and I think that goes for most people. You can't with a child.
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let the child NOT be younger than 13...i'll be traumatized...TT__TT *sob*

men can find cute and kiddie attractive...but let it be to a limit that they can still control!
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No way! There is no way that an adult can find romance within each other. If you are an adult and you really want to be with a child wait till they are an adult at the age of 18. Then anything is fair game but no leave the children alone.
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Posted 5/28/08

popezeke wrote:

I have thought a lot about this subject, and despite all the bashing about this subject few people really touch on this. They are too busy either defending their lolicon pic folders or screaming bloody murder about those wicked child rapists to consider the real implications of a relationship between an adult and child.

As a proud lolicon, I am growing weary about people ignorantly bashing my compatriots, and Chris Hanson's To Catch a Predator is possibly the most useless effort ever devised by television.

However I do not approve of child rapists, child pornographers and the like. Rape is one of the great acts of evil committed by humans, and people who put children through such pain deserve nothing but the full wrath of a bullet.

But while all this flaming is going on, few people really consider this:

If a consenting adult and a willing child existed, do you believe a meaningful relationship could exist? Us lolicons can dream all we want, and the haters can sputter all they want, but I want to know what you guys think. I'm not trolling. Promise.

sound off


lolicon???? what it is???? i dont get it and well in my opinion yes i mean i go out with older men and well ppl like to say its sick and wrong i have no clue why its just like any other relationship only the other persons a lil older i see nothin wrong with that and i think it can cause i have had many meaningful relationships with older men
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Posted 5/28/08 , edited 5/28/08

popezeke wrote:

I have thought a lot about this subject, and despite all the bashing about this subject few people really touch on this. They are too busy either defending their lolicon pic folders or screaming bloody murder about those wicked child rapists to consider the real implications of a relationship between an adult and child.

As a proud lolicon, I am growing weary about people ignorantly bashing my compatriots, and Chris Hanson's To Catch a Predator is possibly the most useless effort ever devised by television.

However I do not approve of child rapists, child pornographers and the like. Rape is one of the great acts of evil committed by humans, and people who put children through such pain deserve nothing but the full wrath of a bullet.

But while all this flaming is going on, few people really consider this:

If a consenting adult and a willing child existed, do you believe a meaningful relationship could exist? Us lolicons can dream all we want, and the haters can sputter all they want, but I want to know what you guys think. I'm not trolling. Promise.

sound off


At first I wrote a long paragraph about playing devil's advocate and maybe this and that could happen but honestly there is no possible way a relationship between a mature man (+/- 35) and a young girl (+/-11) could be meaningful. It would be purely sexual, and one sided for the man. The interests are far too different to even consider having a meaningful conversation let alone a long lasting relationship. I mean 10 years down the line she's going to be a woman and the guy will be even older and his fetish for young girls will still be there. No way it could work.


What a dumb topic, holy shit, I really hope you get cancer in your vas defrans. Like WTF. Did this really need to be asked? WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF. This topic is so dumb.
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It happened through out history, young girls married to men 10, 20 years their senior. Love? Well, never rule out the possiblity, but it'd be an anomaly, a case so rare that it has yet to truly happen.
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