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this story so far as of ep. 1 reminds me a lot of Fahrenheit 451. the idea of book censorship... yet to see the evil of tv or the use of drugs to control... the story just gave off the Fahrenheit 451 vibe... and the "evil" as of now really looks a lot like the 1980's movie of Fahrenheit 45...
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Yeah i just finished the book recently and i gotta say im with you. It does give that vibe and probably feeling throughout the whole anime. Iunno if it would go as far as the ending of the book but man if it did, i must say that would be some plot twist and renewal.
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Actually, I very much disagree. The concept of literary censorship seems like a premature, simplistic assumption that Library War should be lumped together with Fahrenheit 451.

In Toshokan, the antagonist is very clearly the government and the Media Betterment Act forces; in Fahrenheit Bradbury comments that society itself has turned dystopian, and television has negated the function of literature. Toshokan critiques government over-protectionism, and takes the stance that people/society have the right to freedom of information/speech, and the right to judge this information for themselves instead of being molly-coddled by higher-ups who think they know what's best. Fahrenheit's society has a self-imposed self-censorship of which one factor is the suppression of literature, because literature on the whole contains so many confusing, contradictory messages that hinders the pursuit of society's happiness.

The parallels I see are more to do with the individual characters' devotion to books, such as the Fahrenheit woman who, knowing she can't save them, chooses to burn herself along with her books, and the teenage Kasahara who rather be arrested than to be parted with her book.

The delightful irony of this comparison is that the government in Toshokan Sensou is trying to prevent society at large from degenerating into something like the Fahrenheit 451 society, by surpressing negative influences from literature/media. In Fahrenheit 451, society has become so hedonistic and ignorant because literature is destroyed.

Having said that, I read the book when I was 13, a pretty long time ago... So let's just wait and see what surprises the coming episodes will bring.
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Posted 4/29/08
The plot may not be the same as Fahrenheit 451 but the jist of the story might have similarities. The concepts are pretty much the same. This series basically alludes to Fahrenheit 451 as well as other stories that talk about censorship or hindering individual rights. The plots are just different that we focus more on the justice than the team that is burning the books.
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Yeah, ive only read the descripition and thats what im getting. well i like the book so i guess ill watch the series and see what happens
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Actually, I very much disagree. The concept of literary censorship seems like a premature, simplistic assumption that Library War should be lumped together with Fahrenheit 451.

In Toshokan, the antagonist is very clearly the government and the Media Betterment Act forces; in Fahrenheit Bradbury comments that society itself has turned dystopian, and television has negated the function of literature. Toshokan critiques government over-protectionism, and takes the stance that people/society have the right to freedom of information/speech, and the right to judge this information for themselves instead of being molly-coddled by higher-ups who think they know what's best. Fahrenheit's society has a self-imposed self-censorship of which one factor is the suppression of literature, because literature on the whole contains so many confusing, contradictory messages that hinders the pursuit of society's happiness.

The parallels I see are more to do with the individual characters' devotion to books, such as the Fahrenheit woman who, knowing she can't save them, chooses to burn herself along with her books, and the teenage Kasahara who rather be arrested than to be parted with her book.

The delightful irony of this comparison is that the government in Toshokan Sensou is trying to prevent society at large from degenerating into something like the Fahrenheit 451 society, by surpressing negative influences from literature/media. In Fahrenheit 451, society has become so hedonistic and ignorant because literature is destroyed.

Having said that, I read the book when I was 13, a pretty long time ago... So let's just wait and see what surprises the coming episodes will bring.

my point was not that they where the same in ideas but they are close the idea that books are corrupting the young and destroying happiness is true with both governments but it seams this show takes if from the how to stop 451 rather then how to get out of it and no drought this is on the edge of dystopia( your burning books and stopping people from getting children's books for god sake) and secondly ether you did not read 451 closely enough or have forgotten it but was the parts about the chef reading books when he was younger and then there's the part about how the government was the ones that imposed the laws to start with and over time the laws stopped being questioned by the general populous. if they were exactly the same the story would be boring and or repetitive so like most dystopia's it will focus on one point or another more then other dystopia or it will come at the same problems form a different angle or conflict, hence brave new world and 1984 are the same story with different methods of control(over stimulation vs. under stimulation), or a hand maidens tale and 1984 focus on different aspects of the same idea (fast revolution vs. slow , and fear of self or fear of other).
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Posted 5/20/08
ray bradbury. great book. gonna try this series out to compare.
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The delightful irony of this comparison is that the government in Toshokan Sensou is trying to prevent society at large from degenerating into something like the Fahrenheit 451 society, by surpressing negative influences from literature/media. In Fahrenheit 451, society has become so hedonistic and ignorant because literature is destroyed.


I think this makes sense with the reference to Fahrenheit 451 in episode 6—I'm pretty sure that's what "The Book of Prophecy" actually is, anyway, from the way Komaki described it. They're trying to prevent such a future where people don't care about books or ideas from happening, viz, stop the "prophecy" from coming to pass.
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Yes, yaysunshine, I'm pretty certain the kinda tongue-in-cheek named "Book of Prophecy" is meant to be Farenheit 451; when they get it to the library and put it on the shelf they've catalogued it as K505. 451 degrees Farenheit is equivalent to 505 degrees Kelvin. I saw it as a sort of salute to the similarities of all these stories where literature (and creativity) are supressed for the sake of "social wellness" and "safety". It was clever, anyway.
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Posted 5/26/08 , edited 5/26/08
The "Book of Prophecy" is very apt, because to me situation in this anime seems like a prequel to Fahrenheit 451. Right now few people are still fighting, but as we can see in the background protests to remove books are on constantly. Plot Spoiler:



snail: "[...]when they get it to the library and put it on the shelf they've catalogued it as K505. 451 degrees Farenheit is equivalent to 505 degrees Kelvin."

Wow you have got very keen eyes...I didn't notice that.

Is this anime based on a manga? (nm should have read the description properly...i am selective vision sometimes)
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zindagi4u wrote:

The "Book of Prophecy" is very apt, because to me situation in this anime seems like a prequel to Fahrenheit 451. Right now few people are still fighting, but as we can see in the background protests to remove books are on constantly. Plot Spoiler:



snail: "[...]when they get it to the library and put it on the shelf they've catalogued it as K505. 451 degrees Farenheit is equivalent to 505 degrees Kelvin."

Wow you have got very keen eyes...I didn't notice that.

Is this anime based on a manga? (nm should have read the description properly...i am selective vision sometimes)


I think it's based on a series of light novels, though I believe there's also a manga adaptation.
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There is indeed a manga, though I am not sure whether the anime follows the manga, since only 3 volumes are out so far and the manga is said to be more towards drama-tragedy and not romance-comedy as in the anime series. In my op though, the anime's direction is way better...
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snail32 wrote:

Yes, yaysunshine, I'm pretty certain the kinda tongue-in-cheek named "Book of Prophecy" is meant to be Farenheit 451; when they get it to the library and put it on the shelf they've catalogued it as K505. 451 degrees Farenheit is equivalent to 505 degrees Kelvin. I saw it as a sort of salute to the similarities of all these stories where literature (and creativity) are supressed for the sake of "social wellness" and "safety". It was clever, anyway.


ha. Wow. I wouldn't have recognized that. Very nice!
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Posted 6/24/08
hmm... wow... i nothin abt nothin... is Farenheit 451 a book?? written by who? published since when? sorry i usually go for detective n thriller novels... n noe nothin abt this genre...
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