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What are your Religious Beliefs?
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Posted 10/2/06
This is the arguement they brought up, why would we change the subject as they are the ones who dispute it, we're are suposed to tell them how we feel about the subject.
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I think most people are just gonna point out the glaring imposibilities of the bible... for example the story of moses and the arc was stolen from another religion I can't remember which one but thats beside the point. So saying that how can I be sure most the stories arent stolen?
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It wasn't stolen from another religion. The great flood story is in every culture, but no other religion had the story with the arc. For example, the Epic of Gilgamesh was another version of the great flood.
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Define "meaningful," please. Honestly, if people are going to run around and claim to be Christians, while believe that incest is okay because they did it early in the Bible times...don't you think it would be "meaningful" to correct that?

I stated earlier, I'm not here to force my belief on others. I'm here to correct false statements about the Bible. And I don't care about being mocked. I've been mocked more times than you can possibly imagine, ESPECIALLY for mentioning things I felt were "meaningful" to people.

Perhaps if I were talking to someone in person, 1 on 1, I would try and share the true sacrifice Jesus made to them. I would share that even though the whole world might go against them, we have a Father who will neither leave us nor forsake us. I would lift them up as a fellow brother in Christ. But this is not a conversation with an actual person who wants to know about Jesus. This is an internet message board, where false accusations about my religion are being made. Again, I'm here to defend that, nothing more.
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They are the ones who brought up this argument, they are the ones who disputed it, why would I change the subject. I am suposed to tell them what I believe, it may farce now , but they may realise I have a point and want to ask about more meaningful things later. Once again, this is just I what I believe, you know odds are a million to one that they will change there religous beliefs, but do you think that is going to stop me from making every attempt.
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I dont have it in my culture. And yes it was stolen... or borrowed if they never came up with it to begin with. thats like me coming up with the idea of... Harry potter... and reading the book and rewritting it changing small things I'm still stealing someone else's work.
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I'm fairly confident that the Bible has been around far longer than any other religious text, so...

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Talking so literally about the Bible will only end in circular debates. That's why Christian apologists are awfully pointless. It's more purposeful to try and make the questioners understand the concept beyond the page.

Most religions have a flood story, the Epic of Gilgamesh is the oldest living document to depict such. But you should not concern yourself with that. Think about the reasons the story (yes, it's just a story) was writen. It's obvious that the writer was trying to show the transition of a vengeful God to a more peaceful God, who would never exact his anger on humanity again (sign of the rainbow and all).
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It was not stolen it was written by Moses first, and further more the Bible is a histroy book just like any other one you would read at school, do some of your history books contain the same information? If so it was probably stole from the other book you read first right?
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You're making some pretty bold claims, Amaturus. "Yes, it's just a story." You act as though you know this for certain. How can you deny the possibility that it ACTUALLY happened, and back that up with evidence?
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How can I explain this... Not everything in the bible is SUPPOSED to be taken literally. A lot of the earlier writings were merely early thoughts to explain how the world started. Second, NO ONE STOLE THE GREAT FLOOD STORY!!!! It was an actual event that occured and is told in several cultures. The stories of Noah and the ark in Genesis, Matsya in the Hindu Puranas, Deucalion in Greek mythology and Utnapishtim in the Epic of Gilgamesh. Just because its not in your culture doesnt mean jack. These are merely a few examples of the great flood story. If you dare place more information on the great flood stories I will.
Posted 10/2/06
ok its Trevor time.......Haddon your a complete moron simply because your a history major you automatically assume you know the entire history and every aspect of the bible......what school do you attend lol... yes you are right in a history discussion im sure a history major would be useful but your not graduated you dont know anything esp when it comes to the bible your words arent any more insightful than anyone elses here and im sure the christian community is now in fear because a little boy whos a history major is going to "pummel" them give me a break no one here is trying to convert you theyre stating their opinions arguing that yours suck and have no merit behind them @ least when it comes to the bible if rather listen to someone who is in knowledge of it even if theyre words are biased towards it it beats the hell out of listening to some jackass rant and rave about this topic when they clearly know zip about it depsite being a history major your just a little boy with a big mouth over the internet dont feel bad im sure theyre are plenty more like you around somewhere......go find them






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I don't ever recall the bible telling its readers that these are just thoughts and are not to be taken literally. I sure that's what you believe, but aside from that you have no proof.
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Posted 10/2/06

PhooMagoo wrote:

Define "meaningful," please. Honestly, if people are going to run around and claim to be Christians, while believe that incest is okay because they did it early in the Bible times...don't you think it would be "meaningful" to correct that?


By meaningful I mean something that carries some sort of philosophical consequence. Arguing whether Adam and Eve commited incest is just bickering, after all that means very little to us today. And if someone honestly tries to argue for incest, ignore him for the loon he is.

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^ Because judging people and ignoring them are EXACTLY what a Christian is supposed to do. Facts are important in understanding the big picture. I wish you could have been in my Senior Bible Class. You'd have learned a lot, and you wouldn't be saying what you have been.
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