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Which is more powerfull? Gundams Or Transformers?
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I'm getting the feeling that the Transformers some people are comparing this to are from the recent movie, rather than the collective series/continuities.


thats true...........but the movie is really based from the first transformer series


The movie was skewed. The Transformers can withstand the heat of reentry and nuclear explosions, but they can't withstand 105mm High-heat Sabot rounds? That's only in the movie.

In the series, no human weapon could do anything to even the smallest, weakest Transformers. Not even the Constructicons.


so you are saying that the Transformers in the movie are weaker than those in the series? if so.... the creators of that movie tried to make it MORE realistic regarding the fact that its the first Transformers movie which is not animetad


I bet if you shoot 105mm High-heat Sabot rounds at a NASA space shuttle (that can reenter earth), it will probably look like swiss cheese too
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pffft transformers wakakakaka childish!!
GUNDAM"S GOOOO
besides i bet gundams r biger than transformers...
transformers are as big as a 4 story building!! gundams are probably bigger than the four season hotel!!!
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gadeel wrote:

I'm getting the feeling that the Transformers some people are comparing this to are from the recent movie, rather than the collective series/continuities.


The only difference between movie and series is that there's no mass shifting in the movie. Which is only more realistic.
They're actually MUCH more intelligent and faster than in the series IMO.

And stop mentioning Unicron. Why? read my last post


Ignore Unicron and look at how the Transformers adapt their transforming just by scanning what's around, animals, cars, in which they show mass shifting. So they could turn into a Gundam to combat a Gundam, and considering their limitless Spark as compared to CE's Nuclear Fission Reactors, UC's Ultracompact Minovsky-type Fusion Reactors, FC's Nuclear Fusion Reactors, etc. It's easy to guess who would last longer.

Add the regenerating metal they're made of, how they make weapons on the fly, have limitless ammunition for said weapons, etc.

And I find the effect of human weapons on the Transformers in the movie to be exaggerated. Reentry and nuclear explosions are worse than 105 Sabots, but they lived through them easy.
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i like them both so cannot choose -.-"
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I bet if you shoot 105mm High-heat Sabot rounds at a NASA space shuttle (that can reenter earth), it will probably look like swiss cheese too


It would, since it's meant to withstand heat, not impact. That added to the fact that it's not made of semi-organic, self-regenerating metal, the substance of which is unknown.
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gunadamss babie
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in comparison TRANSFORMERS
becasue GGundams are useless without a pilot
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Yay, more gundams than transformer.....haha. Gundam are more cool than transformer IMO...
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pffft transformers wakakakaka childish!!
GUNDAM"S GOOOO
besides i bet gundams r biger than transformers...
transformers are as big as a 4 story building!! gundams are probably bigger than the four season hotel!!!


Mobile Suits may average around 18-20 meters. Gundams can be smaller, but the smallest I've seen is 16 meters (Wing Gundam Zero).

I actually really don't care if they're realistic or not; if a Transformer can take the form of a Psyco Gundam, so be it.
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gundam with pilots.....hehehehehe
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Is Devil Gundam in gundam G an equal to unicron?

sorry for asking this but i know some of you think its stupid but i have not have not seen Devil when its completed because it was destroyed before it was completed....

and no, im not talking about the gundam with the head for a lower body part, im talking about the one thats about the size of a planet and it threatens to eat earth in the process, use it for parts ... it can consume other planets to become bigger too..


In the Marvel Comics, Unicron was a fallen God that destroyed all life, stars, planets and nebulae in the universe, leaving completely nothing. When he and Primus fought, their battles damaged wiped out many galaxies and nebulae, so they changed their battlefield and fought in the astral plane.
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I bet if you shoot 105mm High-heat Sabot rounds at a NASA space shuttle (that can reenter earth), it will probably look like swiss cheese too


It would, since it's meant to withstand heat, not impact. That added to the fact that it's not made of semi-organic, self-regenerating metal, the substance of which is unknown.



true, but its just like that and every mass has a limit of how mach damage it can take....
like in the u can knock a flying transformer with a missile ( if it hits) ... thats in the cartoons
and i guess you know wht happend in the movie too ....
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Is Devil Gundam in gundam G an equal to unicron?

sorry for asking this but i know some of you think its stupid but i have not have not seen Devil when its completed because it was destroyed before it was completed....

and no, im not talking about the gundam with the head for a lower body part, im talking about the one thats about the size of a planet and it threatens to eat earth in the process, use it for parts ... it can consume other planets to become bigger too..


In the Marvel Comics, Unicron was a fallen God that destroyed all life, stars, planets and nebulae in the universe, leaving completely nothing. When he and Primus fought, their battles damaged wiped out many galaxies and nebulae, so they changed their battlefield and fought in the astral plane.


er..........Im taking about gundams and transformers
not astral gods and watevers and what marvel comics got to do with this this anyways?
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I bet if you shoot 105mm High-heat Sabot rounds at a NASA space shuttle (that can reenter earth), it will probably look like swiss cheese too


It would, since it's meant to withstand heat, not impact. That added to the fact that it's not made of semi-organic, self-regenerating metal, the substance of which is unknown.



true, but its just like that and every mass has a limit of how mach damage it can take....
like in the u can knock a flying transformer with a missile ( if it hits) ... thats in the cartoons
and i guess you know wht happend in the movie too ....


They could be thrown back by the force of explosion of a powerful explosion, but the damage may either be negligible or minor.

The only way to destroy a Transformer is by destroying their Spark (which is almost always the most heavily armored part of their bodies).
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sionisme wrote:


gadeel wrote:

I'm getting the feeling that the Transformers some people are comparing this to are from the recent movie, rather than the collective series/continuities.


The only difference between movie and series is that there's no mass shifting in the movie. Which is only more realistic.
They're actually MUCH more intelligent and faster than in the series IMO.

And stop mentioning Unicron. Why? read my last post


Ignore Unicron and look at how the Transformers adapt their transforming just by scanning what's around, animals, cars, in which they show mass shifting. So they could turn into a Gundam to combat a Gundam, and considering their limitless Spark as compared to CE's Nuclear Fission Reactors, UC's Ultracompact Minovsky-type Fusion Reactors, FC's Nuclear Fusion Reactors, etc. It's easy to guess who would last longer.

Add the regenerating metal they're made of, how they make weapons on the fly, have limitless ammunition for said weapons, etc.

And I find the effect of human weapons on the Transformers in the movie to be exaggerated. Reentry and nuclear explosions are worse than 105 Sabots, but they lived through them easy.


I thought energon gets depleted too, but if not. Then there's no point in arguying.
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I bet if you shoot 105mm High-heat Sabot rounds at a NASA space shuttle (that can reenter earth), it will probably look like swiss cheese too


It would, since it's meant to withstand heat, not impact. That added to the fact that it's not made of semi-organic, self-regenerating metal, the substance of which is unknown.



true, but its just like that and every mass has a limit of how mach damage it can take....
like in the u can knock a flying transformer with a missile ( if it hits) ... thats in the cartoons
and i guess you know wht happend in the movie too ....


They could be thrown back by the force of explosion of a powerful explosion, but the damage may either be negligible or minor.

The only way to destroy a Transformer is by destroying their Spark (which is always the most heavily armored part of their bodies).


well yeah....
but they dont regenerate THAT fast and alot of good that will do if they limbs get blown away...so they cant fight back.
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gadeel wrote:


doggimatrix wrote:


gadeel wrote:


doggimatrix wrote:It

I bet if you shoot 105mm High-heat Sabot rounds at a NASA space shuttle (that can reenter earth), it will probably look like swiss cheese too


It would, since it's meant to withstand heat, not impact. That added to the fact that it's not made of semi-organic, self-regenerating metal, the substance of which is unknown.



true, but its just like that and every mass has a limit of how mach damage it can take....
like in the u can knock a flying transformer with a missile ( if it hits) ... thats in the cartoons
and i guess you know wht happend in the movie too ....


They could be thrown back by the force of explosion of a powerful explosion, but the damage may either be negligible or minor.

The only way to destroy a Transformer is by destroying their Spark (which is always the most heavily armored part of their bodies).


well yeah....
but they dont regenerate THAT fast and alot of good that will do if they limbs get blown away...so they cant fight back.


They can always tool it back on. If they do not have the time for that, they would just form weapons out of their other body parts.

No Gundam other than the Devil Gundam, or the Turn A or the Turn X can regenerate.
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