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Which is more powerfull? Gundams Or Transformers?
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Transformers got minds of it's own so they have the advantage.
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I'm getting the feeling that the Transformers some people are comparing this to are from the recent movie, rather than the collective series/continuities.


The only difference between movie and series is that there's no mass shifting in the movie. Which is only more realistic.
They're actually MUCH more intelligent and faster than in the series IMO.

And stop mentioning Unicron. Why? read my last post


Ignore Unicron and look at how the Transformers adapt their transforming just by scanning what's around, animals, cars, in which they show mass shifting. So they could turn into a Gundam to combat a Gundam, and considering their limitless Spark as compared to CE's Nuclear Fission Reactors, UC's Ultracompact Minovsky-type Fusion Reactors, FC's Nuclear Fusion Reactors, etc. It's easy to guess who would last longer.

Add the regenerating metal they're made of, how they make weapons on the fly, have limitless ammunition for said weapons, etc.

And I find the effect of human weapons on the Transformers in the movie to be exaggerated. Reentry and nuclear explosions are worse than 105 Sabots, but they lived through them easy.


I thought energon gets depleted too, but if not. Then there's no point in arguying.


True, but I doubt Nuclear Fusion Reactors, Nuclear Fission Reactors or Batteries can last that long.
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Is Devil Gundam in gundam G an equal to unicron?

sorry for asking this but i know some of you think its stupid but i have not have not seen Devil when its completed because it was destroyed before it was completed....

and no, im not talking about the gundam with the head for a lower body part, im talking about the one thats about the size of a planet and it threatens to eat earth in the process, use it for parts ... it can consume other planets to become bigger too..


In the Marvel Comics, Unicron was a fallen God that destroyed all life, stars, planets and nebulae in the universe, leaving completely nothing. When he and Primus fought, their battles damaged wiped out many galaxies and nebulae, so they changed their battlefield and fought in the astral plane.


er..........Im taking about gundams and transformers
not astral gods and watevers and what marvel comics got to do with this this anyways?


I'm just stating the other versions of Transformers. One of it is the Marvel Transformers. Theses feats are enough enough to explain why Transformers > Gundams.
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I bet if you shoot 105mm High-heat Sabot rounds at a NASA space shuttle (that can reenter earth), it will probably look like swiss cheese too


It would, since it's meant to withstand heat, not impact. That added to the fact that it's not made of semi-organic, self-regenerating metal, the substance of which is unknown.



true, but its just like that and every mass has a limit of how mach damage it can take....
like in the u can knock a flying transformer with a missile ( if it hits) ... thats in the cartoons
and i guess you know wht happend in the movie too ....


They could be thrown back by the force of explosion of a powerful explosion, but the damage may either be negligible or minor.

The only way to destroy a Transformer is by destroying their Spark (which is always the most heavily armored part of their bodies).


well
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I bet if you shoot 105mm High-heat Sabot rounds at a NASA space shuttle (that can reenter earth), it will probably look like swiss cheese too


It would, since it's meant to withstand heat, not impact. That added to the fact that it's not made of semi-organic, self-regenerating metal, the substance of which is unknown.



true, but its just like that and every mass has a limit of how mach damage it can take....
like in the u can knock a flying transformer with a missile ( if it hits) ... thats in the cartoons
and i guess you know wht happend in the movie too ....


They could be thrown back by the force of explosion of a powerful explosion, but the damage may either be negligible or minor.

The only way to destroy a Transformer is by destroying their Spark (which is always the most heavily armored part of their bodies).


well yeah....
but they dont regenerate THAT fast and alot of good that will do if they limbs get blown away...so they cant fight back.


They can always tool it back on. If they do not have the time for that, they would just form weapons out of their other body parts.

No Gundam other than the Devil Gundam, or the Turn A or the Turn X can regenerate.


well ill give you that they can turn their body parts to weapons
but you cant tool you self together under fire you know...

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I'm just stating the other versions of Transformers. One of it is the Marvel Transformers. Theses feats are enough enough to explain why Transformers > Gundams.


There's also a Marvel Transformers X G.I. Joe.
If G.I. Joe characters poses any threat to transformers at all, the more reason that gundams can pwn transformers as well. =p
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doggimatrix wrote:


gadeel wrote:


doggimatrix wrote:


gadeel wrote:


doggimatrix wrote:


gadeel wrote:


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I bet if you shoot 105mm High-heat Sabot rounds at a NASA space shuttle (that can reenter earth), it will probably look like swiss cheese too


It would, since it's meant to withstand heat, not impact. That added to the fact that it's not made of semi-organic, self-regenerating metal, the substance of which is unknown.



true, but its just like that and every mass has a limit of how mach damage it can take....
like in the u can knock a flying transformer with a missile ( if it hits) ... thats in the cartoons
and i guess you know wht happend in the movie too ....


They could be thrown back by the force of explosion of a powerful explosion, but the damage may either be negligible or minor.

The only way to destroy a Transformer is by destroying their Spark (which is always the most heavily armored part of their bodies).


well yeah....
but they dont regenerate THAT fast and alot of good that will do if they limbs get blown away...so they cant fight back.


They can always tool it back on. If they do not have the time for that, they would just form weapons out of their other body parts.

No Gundam other than the Devil Gundam, or the Turn A or the Turn X can regenerate.


well ill give you that they can turn their body parts to weapons
but you cant tool you self together under fire you know...



Most can't, but a "Medical" Transformer, like Ratchet, can repair on the field of combat.

And what's the point of this argument, may I ask?
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as much as i like gundam... i think transformers will win here =_=
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haotehmao wrote:


doggimatrix wrote:


haotehmao wrote:


doggimatrix wrote:

Is Devil Gundam in gundam G an equal to unicron?

sorry for asking this but i know some of you think its stupid but i have not have not seen Devil when its completed because it was destroyed before it was completed....

and no, im not talking about the gundam with the head for a lower body part, im talking about the one thats about the size of a planet and it threatens to eat earth in the process, use it for parts ... it can consume other planets to become bigger too..


In the Marvel Comics, Unicron was a fallen God that destroyed all life, stars, planets and nebulae in the universe, leaving completely nothing. When he and Primus fought, their battles damaged wiped out many galaxies and nebulae, so they changed their battlefield and fought in the astral plane.


er..........Im taking about gundams and transformers
not astral gods and watevers and what marvel comics got to do with this this anyways?


I'm just stating the other versions of Transformers. One of it is the Marvel Transformers. Theses feats are enough enough to explain why Transformers > Gundams.


oh sorry bout that...
i have not seen the marvel version of them in the astrl plane..............yet
thanks for the explain.
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Gundam!
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Planet size robots versus your standard size Gundams... I'd go with the Transformers for this one.. However, I still prefer the gundam series over the transformers..
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gadeel wrote:


doggimatrix wrote:


gadeel wrote:


doggimatrix wrote:


gadeel wrote:


doggimatrix wrote:


gadeel wrote:


doggimatrix wrote:It

I bet if you shoot 105mm High-heat Sabot rounds at a NASA space shuttle (that can reenter earth), it will probably look like swiss cheese too


It would, since it's meant to withstand heat, not impact. That added to the fact that it's not made of semi-organic, self-regenerating metal, the substance of which is unknown.



true, but its just like that and every mass has a limit of how mach damage it can take....
like in the u can knock a flying transformer with a missile ( if it hits) ... thats in the cartoons
and i guess you know wht happend in the movie too ....


They could be thrown back by the force of explosion of a powerful explosion, but the damage may either be negligible or minor.

The only way to destroy a Transformer is by destroying their Spark (which is always the most heavily armored part of their bodies).


well yeah....
but they dont regenerate THAT fast and alot of good that will do if they limbs get blown away...so they cant fight back.


They can always tool it back on. If they do not have the time for that, they would just form weapons out of their other body parts.

No Gundam other than the Devil Gundam, or the Turn A or the Turn X can regenerate.


well ill give you that they can turn their body parts to weapons
but you cant tool you self together under fire you know...



Most can't, but a "Medical" Transformer, like Ratchet, can repair on the field of combat.

And what's the point of this argument, may I ask?


you convinving me that in the mech VS mech catagory the transformers owns, of course.........

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Transformers is not anime,only a few series were made by jp, but only 3 sets of transformers did gundam success and is a former anime well and very popular in jp
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hmmm ......i dnt really know who is the stongest....but for me gundam because it was cool~!!!!!
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