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Post Reply Who's strongest ninja?
Posted 1/8/09

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The hokage is always the strongest ninja at the time, they have access to every forbiddon technique known to the ninja world, there are ninja who create forbiddon techniques but then they are added to the forbiddon list which then the hokage can read.

If that werent taken into account then it would have to be Sasuke, Naruto still doesnt have a sure fire way to escape Itachi's genjutsu, Sasuke now has a stronger version so it would be impossible to escape now.


Madara's "perfect" sharingan is at an equal level to Sasuke's new version. Sasuke becomes more and more blind but madara is already reaching the limit again (reason he needs Sasuke).

Basically Sasuke is the strongest.


Hokage isn't always the strongest ninja... Just someone capable of protecting the village.

Sasuke, you're kidding right? Itachi is much stronger than Sasuke along with his sword and impenetrable defense... Plus he let Susuke kill him?...BADASS
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Posted 1/8/09 , edited 1/8/09

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spider1414314 wrote:

The hokage is always the strongest ninja at the time, they have access to every forbiddon technique known to the ninja world, there are ninja who create forbiddon techniques but then they are added to the forbiddon list which then the hokage can read.

If that werent taken into account then it would have to be Sasuke, Naruto still doesnt have a sure fire way to escape Itachi's genjutsu, Sasuke now has a stronger version so it would be impossible to escape now.


Madara's "perfect" sharingan is at an equal level to Sasuke's new version. Sasuke becomes more and more blind but madara is already reaching the limit again (reason he needs Sasuke).

Basically Sasuke is the strongest.


Hokage isn't always the strongest ninja... Just someone capable of protecting the village.

Sasuke, you're kidding right? Itachi is much stronger than Sasuke along with his sword and impenetrable defense... Plus he let Susuke kill him?...BADASS


The hokage is the strongest as in a real battle strength would not out weigh the exerience and mass ammount of techniques that hokages have at their disposal.

I was under the impression to be the strongest ninja you had to still be living, other wise then its the 4th hands down, how can anyone survive attacks that are too fast to even see?
Posted 1/8/09 , edited 1/8/09

spider1414314 wrote:


penguinboss wrote:


spider1414314 wrote:

The hokage is always the strongest ninja at the time, they have access to every forbiddon technique known to the ninja world, there are ninja who create forbiddon techniques but then they are added to the forbiddon list which then the hokage can read.

If that werent taken into account then it would have to be Sasuke, Naruto still doesnt have a sure fire way to escape Itachi's genjutsu, Sasuke now has a stronger version so it would be impossible to escape now.


Madara's "perfect" sharingan is at an equal level to Sasuke's new version. Sasuke becomes more and more blind but madara is already reaching the limit again (reason he needs Sasuke).

Basically Sasuke is the strongest.


Hokage isn't always the strongest ninja... Just someone capable of protecting the village.

Sasuke, you're kidding right? Itachi is much stronger than Sasuke along with his sword and impenetrable defense... Plus he let Susuke kill him?...BADASS


I was under the impression to be the strongest ninja you had to still be living, other wise then its the 4th hands down, how can anyone survive attacks that are too fast to even see?


LOL I never said Itachi was the strongest ninja I just said that he was stronger than Sasuke...

If I had to pick someone living it would be Madara knowing that he's living for what...hundreds of years?
Plus being able to summon the Nine Tails...

I admit that the 4th is strong knowing that he has his time/space jitsu...
But reading the last chapter, knowing that the old toad has been with both the 4th and Jiraiya and saying "Naruto has surpassed the previous generation" showing both the 4th and Jiraiya. So it's safe to assume that he's stronger than the 4th in his perfect sage mode(in other words god mode...)

Edit: About the Hokage thing example: the fifth enough said...
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Posted 1/8/09

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spider1414314 wrote:


penguinboss wrote:


spider1414314 wrote:

The hokage is always the strongest ninja at the time, they have access to every forbiddon technique known to the ninja world, there are ninja who create forbiddon techniques but then they are added to the forbiddon list which then the hokage can read.

If that werent taken into account then it would have to be Sasuke, Naruto still doesnt have a sure fire way to escape Itachi's genjutsu, Sasuke now has a stronger version so it would be impossible to escape now.


Madara's "perfect" sharingan is at an equal level to Sasuke's new version. Sasuke becomes more and more blind but madara is already reaching the limit again (reason he needs Sasuke).

Basically Sasuke is the strongest.


Hokage isn't always the strongest ninja... Just someone capable of protecting the village.

Sasuke, you're kidding right? Itachi is much stronger than Sasuke along with his sword and impenetrable defense... Plus he let Susuke kill him?...BADASS


I was under the impression to be the strongest ninja you had to still be living, other wise then its the 4th hands down, how can anyone survive attacks that are too fast to even see?


LOL I never said Itachi was the strongest ninja I just said that he was stronger than Sasuke...

If I had to pick someone living it would be Madara knowing that he's living for what...hundreds of years?
Plus being able to summon the Nine Tails...

I admit that the 4th is strong knowing that he has his time/space jitsu...
But reading the last chapter, knowing that the old toad has been with both the 4th and Jiraiya and saying "Naruto has surpassed the previous generation" showing both the 4th and Jiraiya. So it's safe to assume that he's stronger than the 4th in his perfect sage mode(in other words god mode...)

Edit: About the Hokage thing example: the fifth enough said...


The toad was refering to Naruto suppasing them in terms of the sage mode not that he is acutally better then a sannin and a hokage.

Itachi may have been stronger than Sasuke at the point of the battle but Sasuke has most certainly surpassed his brother.

I wonder what effect madara has on Naruto when he turns into tails... hmm mind control on sage mode 4 tails naruto

Posted 1/8/09

spider1414314 wrote:


penguinboss wrote:


spider1414314 wrote:


penguinboss wrote:


spider1414314 wrote:

The hokage is always the strongest ninja at the time, they have access to every forbiddon technique known to the ninja world, there are ninja who create forbiddon techniques but then they are added to the forbiddon list which then the hokage can read.

If that werent taken into account then it would have to be Sasuke, Naruto still doesnt have a sure fire way to escape Itachi's genjutsu, Sasuke now has a stronger version so it would be impossible to escape now.


Madara's "perfect" sharingan is at an equal level to Sasuke's new version. Sasuke becomes more and more blind but madara is already reaching the limit again (reason he needs Sasuke).

Basically Sasuke is the strongest.


Hokage isn't always the strongest ninja... Just someone capable of protecting the village.

Sasuke, you're kidding right? Itachi is much stronger than Sasuke along with his sword and impenetrable defense... Plus he let Susuke kill him?...BADASS


I was under the impression to be the strongest ninja you had to still be living, other wise then its the 4th hands down, how can anyone survive attacks that are too fast to even see?


LOL I never said Itachi was the strongest ninja I just said that he was stronger than Sasuke...

If I had to pick someone living it would be Madara knowing that he's living for what...hundreds of years?
Plus being able to summon the Nine Tails...

I admit that the 4th is strong knowing that he has his time/space jitsu...
But reading the last chapter, knowing that the old toad has been with both the 4th and Jiraiya and saying "Naruto has surpassed the previous generation" showing both the 4th and Jiraiya. So it's safe to assume that he's stronger than the 4th in his perfect sage mode(in other words god mode...)

Edit: About the Hokage thing example: the fifth enough said...


The toad was refering to Naruto suppasing them in terms of the sage mode not that he is acutally better then a sannin and a hokage.

Itachi may have been stronger than Sasuke at the point of the battle but Sasuke has most certainly surpassed his brother.

I wonder what effect madara has on Naruto when he turns into tails... hmm mind control on sage mode 4 tails naruto



The toad wasn't necessarily referring to sage mode there's no evidence showing that... Plus there's nothing to show that the 4th even had a sage mode...

Are you talking about Sasuke's new eyes? We can't assume anything...Because we don't know the extent of the eye's power. So basing off what has already been revealed yes...Itachi is stronger.....

Madara would probably have full control over Naruto if he wanted. Did you forget? He's the one who controlled the Nine Tails...




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I didnt say the 4th had a sage mode, the 4th as far as we know was only able to summon the toads, then Jiraya went further witha hermet mode and then Naruto hit the full sage form.

Sasuke with his new eye can control Itachi's Ameretsu which Itachi has never been able to do, Itachi used to have to avoid his own technique as he couldnt stop it.

Its only half the fox, and I was just wondering what effect the seal would have over Madara's control.
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Posted 1/10/09

spider1414314 wrote:

I didnt say the 4th had a sage mode, the 4th as far as we know was only able to summon the toads, then Jiraya went further witha hermet mode and then Naruto hit the full sage form.

Sasuke with his new eye can control Itachi's Ameretsu which Itachi has never been able to do, Itachi used to have to avoid his own technique as he couldnt stop it.

Its only half the fox, and I was just wondering what effect the seal would have over Madara's control.



Your right on the first part

Itachi could have controlled it but chose not to to. When itachi and sasuke fought itachi could have killed him easily but that wasn't part of his plan he wanted sasuke to get the eternal from him so he could kill madara. so itachi was stronger but now he is dead so we will never see what he can really do.

I think it could take over madara's control but that won't happen sasuke will kill madara before all the 9 beast's are captured.
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NARUTO....
Posted 1/11/09
Wouldnt Madara Uchiha have control over Naruto?
I thought he could control the beasts... It does make sense...
Im currently fighting between Madara Uchiha, Sasuke Uchiha and Naruto Uzumaki.
We dont know the full extent to Madara and Sasuke's power yet, but we can assume that they have a few tricks to be used... Naruto's still getting stronger, as are the others, so It's hard to tell at the moment.
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Posted 1/11/09

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Wouldnt Madara Uchiha have control over Naruto?
I thought he could control the beasts... It does make sense...
Im currently fighting between Madara Uchiha, Sasuke Uchiha and Naruto Uzumaki.
We dont know the full extent to Madara and Sasuke's power yet, but we can assume that they have a few tricks to be used... Naruto's still getting stronger, as are the others, so It's hard to tell at the moment.


Its unknown the extent of Madara's control, as Madara cant control all the beasts only the fox, other wise he would have simply ordered all the beasts to return to him without having to sacrifice so many of his team, we still dont know if the fact that Naruto only has the "good" side of th fox (shows how evil the fox truely was lol), and also the seal would effect the control Madara has over the fox also Naruto would have to hit 4 tail other wise the fox doesnt have a form so there would be nothing to control.
Posted 1/11/09

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LordKitsune wrote:

Wouldnt Madara Uchiha have control over Naruto?
I thought he could control the beasts... It does make sense...
Im currently fighting between Madara Uchiha, Sasuke Uchiha and Naruto Uzumaki.
We dont know the full extent to Madara and Sasuke's power yet, but we can assume that they have a few tricks to be used... Naruto's still getting stronger, as are the others, so It's hard to tell at the moment.


Its unknown the extent of Madara's control, as Madara cant control all the beasts only the fox, other wise he would have simply ordered all the beasts to return to him without having to sacrifice so many of his team, we still dont know if the fact that Naruto only has the "good" side of th fox (shows how evil the fox truely was lol), and also the seal would effect the control Madara has over the fox also Naruto would have to hit 4 tail other wise the fox doesnt have a form so there would be nothing to control.


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Well, you prove a valid point Mr.Spider.
But you know, Madara could probably tear the fox out of him quite easy. You've heard how powerful he is... It'd probably take an Ameratesu or two to take out Naruto in his Original state. But as I said before, Naruto's still getting stronger, he may find a way to control past 4 tails soon.
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naruto saske and pain
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Sasuke obviously ;D
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Naruto...but he only so strong bc of his Nine tail fox powers
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