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HD DVD, Blu-ray or Internet Downloads- which will win?
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Posted 1/28/07
Its true PS3 has backward compad problems. Its quite simple though y. If you realize ps3 is the original giant ps2 with upgrades. It has misplaced issues. Instead of using a completely new motherboard they use realitvely exact ps2 board. Unlike Xbox 360s new system which allows for a more successful backward compatibility. But judging by gears of war HD takes the cake in my opinion. (and this is with out an hd tv) (with one the graphics are significantly better)
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Posted 1/28/07

SenbonzakuraMaster wrote:

Its true PS3 has backward compad problems. Its quite simple though y. If you realize ps3 is the original giant ps2 with upgrades. It has misplaced issues. Instead of using a completely new motherboard they use realitvely exact ps2 board. Unlike Xbox 360s new system which allows for a more successful backward compatibility. But judging by gears of war HD takes the cake in my opinion. (and this is with out an hd tv) (with one the graphics are significantly better)


Hmm, the XBox360 only has one system for backwards use.... I think they'll fix the problem soon. I have a PS3 but I might get a Xbox3600 too.

But seriously a disk holding 50 gbs @_@ Thats just plain awesome
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Posted 1/28/07
^the HD-DVD holds 30 gbs which many think will make it loose out.
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HD DVD holds 15 gigabytes per layer and Blu-ray holds 25 gigabytes per layer. So dual layered, HD DVD holds 30 and Blu-ray holds 50. They can even have more layers than that. I've heard of 4 layered Blu-ray discs, which are 100 gigabytes.
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Posted 1/28/07
As I understand it theoretical limits are 60GB for hd-dvd and 200GB for blue ray.

Really, all I care about atm and in the near future (2y) are quality 700mb rips.

Cnet comparison from a bit back: http://forbes.com.com/4520-6463_7-6462511-1.html


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Posted 1/28/07
DVD or dl's....blu-ray is too expensive so far
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Posted 1/28/07
But the success of HD DVD isn't riding on the Xbox 360's success since it doesnt even come with a built in HD DVD drive. Sony's the one trying to push their format with they're gaming system.
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Posted 1/29/07
Whats the main sponser for the HDDVD then? Because the ones I listed earlier dont seem to be well known- at least not to me. I think that this won't be resolved for a long time and we will probably all own combo players and the new disks that are HDDVD on one side and Bluray on the other.
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Posted 1/29/07
I'm not gloating so please don't intrepret that as such:

I went out a limb and decided to test this on my own. At a start, I have a Xbox 360 w/ External HD-DVD player and a PS3. Went out and purchased a copy of King Kong on Blu Ray. I picked that movie because I already own it on normal DVD and I got a free copy of the HD-DVD when I bought the Xbox 360 HD DVD player.

I didn't watch them all the way through. I just watched the scenes that were visually immersing. Over, and over, and over again.

Normal DVD definently looses. But Blu Ray Vs HD DVD, I didn't notice much of a difference. But Blu Ray had all these neat little options and extra features that the HD DVD didn't come with. So that was kind of cool.

I'm not sure where I stand. I'd would rather it lean toward Blu Ray because I payed 600 bucks for an overrated Blu Ray player.
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^haha for your own benefit i hope its bluray!

Bluray has more room as discussed earlier which is probably why it came with all the little extras- if you mean special features on the disk itself. This could win it as storage is important in the market at the moment. It comes up in other technologies such as the iphone. Some people who would have supported it say they will wait until one with a larger amount of storage/memory (im not a tech genius sorry!) comes out.
Out of curiosity, what is the bluray player like? I think thats important too and I'm hoping it doesn't have any 'freezing' moments like my dvd player does!
Posted 1/29/07
Internet Downloads couldn't really work withought people having a way of storing a back up of whatever they download, unless there is going to be a system of on demand downloads, which would be cheaper for some films, but for the number of times I play songs over and over I like to have a physical recording of them.
I therefore think that HD-DVD will take off in conjunction with internet downloads, as DVD writers are already avaliable and have high enough definition for the longest films currently avaliable (as far as I know) - the only advantage I can see of Blu-Ray is the storage space, but that means putting all your eggs in one basket.
In the end the probable winner will be the good old Hard-Drive, a 'puter with 4 of them (as in the newest Macs) and have Terabytes of space, enough to hold all the films you could ever think of watching, and back ups of all those films on other disks. In this way it reduces the requirement for physical objects, however reduces portability - enter mp3 player with colour screens and all the problems are solved.
=> But then again - you shouldn't trust my opinion - I still buy Vinyls because I think they are better than CDs and I would never download something from iTunes or an equivalent.
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Posted 1/29/07
HD-DVD will win, if for no other reason than the fact that the name is more recognizable than Blu-Ray. Who nowadays doesn't know what HD means and what DVD means? Put those two together and you have a high def DVD, what's not to like? A lot of people don't even know what Blu-Ray is. Also, didn't Sony say that porn won't be released on Blu-Ray? That alone will kill the format, just like what happened to the beta back in the day. They didn't allow porn to be produced and VHS won.
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Posted 1/29/07
I THINK BLUE RAY IS BARELY GETTING TO IT!!!

BUT THEYLL WIN, GO PS3 U RULE FOR THE BLUR RAY
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Posted 1/29/07

s_j_b wrote:

^haha for your own benefit i hope its bluray!

Bluray has more room as discussed earlier which is probably why it came with all the little extras- if you mean special features on the disk itself. This could win it as storage is important in the market at the moment. It comes up in other technologies such as the iphone. Some people who would have supported it say they will wait until one with a larger amount of storage/memory (im not a tech genius sorry!) comes out.
Out of curiosity, what is the bluray player like? I think thats important too and I'm hoping it doesn't have any 'freezing' moments like my dvd player does!


Well, I didn't watch the whole movie through so I don't know if it has any pauses between chapters (like some DVD/DVD Players) do or if it has that momentary pause when it jumps from the first to the second layer of the DVD. Seeing as how it has a large capacity, I don't think they have a need to layer the information and thusly can have a straight-through setup. King Kong is a really long movie and I'd rather not watch it all the way through again.

I'll see if I can track down another Blu-Ray movie somewhere that I can stomach.

Part of me really does hope Blu Ray wins... but I'm prepared for either direction the industry goes.
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Posted 1/30/07
haha no need to buy more to test it! I think they are supposed to be of equal quality anyway- it's just the capacity difference.


HD DVD holds 15 gigabytes per layer and Blu-ray holds 25 gigabytes per layer. So dual layered, HD DVD holds 30 and Blu-ray holds 50. They can even have more layers than that. I've heard of 4 layered Blu-ray discs, which are 100 gigabytes.


I imagine that there will still be a pause between layers. I don't find it particulary annoying with DVDs although more layers could mean more pauses- which some might find annoying.
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