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Posted 6/11/13
repeal the legal rights of traditional christian marriages and make the religious whackos apply for legal civil union licenses to obtain their legal rights under the law or else they can remain "married" and lose their benefits since church and state are separated in this country.
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Posted 6/11/13
Extremists believe gay people will give each other aids so why not let them have their self destruction? tsk tsk tsk
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Posted 6/20/13
Even though I'm catholic, I am for gay marriage because I don't see anything wrong with it
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I agree, just let them be happy
Posted 6/21/13
i agree it don't bother me as long people happy after all it is 21st century
Posted 6/22/13
I'm ok with gay marriage. I don't believe there is anything wrong with that.
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For those who may not have heard the news yet, the Defense of Marriage Act, also known as DOMA, was struck down as unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court today. It was a narrow 5-4 vote, with Justices Roberts, Scalia, Thomas, and Alito dissenting.

http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/windsor-v-united-states-2/

From the full opinion ( http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/12pdf/12-307_g2bh.pdf ) "DOMA singles out a class of persons deemed by a State entitled to recognition and protection to enhance their own liberty…In determining whether a law is motivated by improper animus or purpose, discriminations of an unusual character especially require careful consideration. DOMA cannot survive under these principles."

This is also a victory in the grand scheme of things, because it shows just how much the shifting of attitudes toward marriage equality have progressed. Bigotry is slowly losing this debate, and those opposed to marriage equality are on the wrong side of history. California's Prop 8 will be ruled on soon, as well. This SCOTUS ruling may help indicate which way that ruling will go. EDIT: The ruling's already out, and Prop 8 was ruled as having no legal standing. From the Ninth Circuit's ruling "Although the Constitution permits communities to enact most laws believe to be desirable, it requires that there be at least a legitimate reason for the passage of a law that treats different classes of people differently. There was no such reason that Proposition 8 could have been enacted.". Gay marriages will resume in California, though not today. As a straight man, and a proponent of marriage equality, I'm elated by these two decisions.

For those who have said, "Well, why can't they just have civil unions instead?" There are two major issues with that. The first is that it creates a "separate but equal" situation, which historically have always been entirely separate and anything but equal. In practice, this leads to rampant discrimination of the minority group. The second problem is that unless federally granted protection overrides the rulings of individual states, marriages that are legal in one place may not be considered legal in another - which is exactly the situation presented in the Windsor case. For those not aware of the case: Edie Windsor and her partner were together for 42 years, and were legally married in Canada in 2007. After her partner's death due to multiple sclerosis, Edie Windsor was hit with $360,000 in inheritance taxes, because under DOMA, her marriage was not recognized as legal. Had she been a man, this would not have occurred.

In legal terms, there are 1138 federally granted rights, benefits, and privileges that only married couples may have. So unless each of these is also granted to same sex couples (as they may apply,) the idea of "civil unions, but not marriages" fails as much as DOMA.
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Spazticus wrote:

For those who may not have heard the news yet, the Defense of Marriage Act, also known as DOMA, was struck down as unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court today. It was a narrow 5-4 vote, with Justices Roberts, Scalia, Thomas, and Alito dissenting.

http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/windsor-v-united-states-2/

From the full opinion ( http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/12pdf/12-307_g2bh.pdf ) "DOMA singles out a class of persons deemed by a State entitled to recognition and protection to enhance their own liberty…In determining whether a law is motivated by improper animus or purpose, discriminations of an unusual character especially require careful consideration. DOMA cannot survive under these principles."

This is also a victory in the grand scheme of things, because it shows just how much the shifting of attitudes toward marriage equality have progressed. Bigotry is slowly losing this debate, and those opposed to marriage equality are on the wrong side of history. California's Prop 8 will be ruled on soon, as well. This SCOTUS ruling may help indicate which way that ruling will go. EDIT: The ruling's already out, and Prop 8 was ruled as having no legal standing. From the Ninth Circuit's ruling "Although the Constitution permits communities to enact most laws believe to be desirable, it requires that there be at least a legitimate reason for the passage of a law that treats different classes of people differently. There was no such reason that Proposition 8 could have been enacted.". Gay marriages will resume in California, though not today. As a straight man, and a proponent of marriage equality, I'm elated by these two decisions.

For those who have said, "Well, why can't they just have civil unions instead?" There are two major issues with that. The first is that it creates a "separate but equal" situation, which historically have always been entirely separate and anything but equal. In practice, this leads to rampant discrimination of the minority group. The second problem is that unless federally granted protection overrides the rulings of individual states, marriages that are legal in one place may not be considered legal in another - which is exactly the situation presented in the Windsor case. For those not aware of the case: Edie Windsor and her partner were together for 42 years, and were legally married in Canada in 2007. After her partner's death due to multiple sclerosis, Edie Windsor was hit with $360,000 in inheritance taxes, because under DOMA, her marriage was not recognized as legal. Had she been a man, this would not have occurred.

In legal terms, there are 1138 federally granted rights, benefits, and privileges that only married couples may have. So unless each of these is also granted to same sex couples (as they may apply,) the idea of "civil unions, but not marriages" fails as much as DOMA.


This, right here, is a step in the right direction.
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THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH GAY MARRIAGE.
Evehryone have their own rights to love whoever they wanted to and outsiders have no rights to opose or opinion about anything and so those who oppose against it are just close-minded.

This is something sweet. You guys should watch it!!
http://www.upworthy.com/stupid-law-says-no-to-gay-marriage-google-says-challenge-accepted-2
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cottonpiece wrote:

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH GAY MARRIAGE.
Evehryone have their own rights to love whoever they wanted to and outsiders have no rights to opose or opinion about anything and so those who oppose against it are just close-minded.

This is something sweet. You guys should watch it!!
http://www.upworthy.com/stupid-law-says-no-to-gay-marriage-google-says-challenge-accepted-2


Actually you should call it Marriage equality and not Gay marriage. As gay marriage makes it sound seperate from hetero marriage
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Posted 6/27/13

eightcar wrote:


cottonpiece wrote:

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH GAY MARRIAGE.
Evehryone have their own rights to love whoever they wanted to and outsiders have no rights to opose or opinion about anything and so those who oppose against it are just close-minded.

This is something sweet. You guys should watch it!!
http://www.upworthy.com/stupid-law-says-no-to-gay-marriage-google-says-challenge-accepted-2


Actually you should call it Marriage equality and not Gay marriage. As gay marriage makes it sound seperate from hetero marriage


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Posted 6/27/13
I'm not against it at all. They should be able to get married if they want to. You love who you love, you can't change it and you shouldn't have to.
Those who oppose it have a right to think what they want but they have no right to actually stop gays from being legally married.
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TheRealEscargotpudding wrote:

The only arguments I've ever heard is for gay marriage. So what's the logical argument against gay marriage?

-There are many cases where gay men fall in love with straight women, so therefore, being gay is a choice.
-Penis doesn't belong in butt hole, that's unnatural.

Choice + unnatural = gays choose to be unnatural
I'm not too sure how credible this is, none of these are my words
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FlyinDumpling wrote:


TheRealEscargotpudding wrote:

The only arguments I've ever heard is for gay marriage. So what's the logical argument against gay marriage?

-There are many cases where gay men fall in love with straight women, so therefore, being gay is a choice.
-Penis doesn't belong in butt hole, that's unnatural.

Choice + unnatural = gays choose to be unnatural
I'm not too sure how credible this is, none of these are my words


If a gay man falls in love with a straight woman, that means that he's not gay. It means that he's bi. Derp.
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Syndicaidramon wrote:

If a gay man falls in love with a straight woman, that means that he's not gay. It means that he's bi. Derp.
and how does this disprove my point?
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