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Posted 9/2/11
For it. People should be allowed to marry who they want to marry without a bunch of homophobes criticizing. Some people are gay, straight, some are lesbian. But love is love no matter where you find it. It's a horrible thing that homosexuality is considered a sin under some religions. Exactly why I'm an agnostic.
Posted 9/16/11
I am just curious, then. If people can fall in love with whomever they fall for like ^ has previously said, would insex be okay?
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Posted 9/19/11

plainasusual wrote:

I am just curious, then. If people can fall in love with whomever they fall for like ^ has previously said, would insex be okay?
What in the world is insex? You think maybe you mean incest? If so then no. But there really isn't much widespread and legislative action done in support of incest, because of the stigma it carries with it in causing birth defects. Also incest isn't related to sexual orientation, being attracted to a sibling can happen to straight, gay or bi people. Which is why it's incorrect to equate homosexuality with things that are actually aberrant behaviors like rape, incest, bestiality, etc. Those are generally related to physiological conditions.

Homosexuality is simply the quality of being only interested in the same sex, as opposed to heterosexuality, the attraction to people of the opposite sex. Other than bisexuality, asexuality, anything else is not a sexual orientation. The status of being gay is not an aberrant behavior, simply because it's not a behavior suggested by fundamentalist cryout that simply doesn't understand and only chooses to spread hate and misinformation.

Posted 9/19/11

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plainasusual wrote:

I am just curious, then. If people can fall in love with whomever they fall for like ^ has previously said, would insex be okay?
What in the world is insex? You think maybe you mean incest? If so then no. But there really isn't much widespread and legislative action done in support of incest, because of the stigma it carries with it in causing birth defects. Also incest isn't related to sexual orientation, being attracted to a sibling can happen to straight, gay or bi people. Which is why it's incorrect to equate homosexuality with things that are actually aberrant behaviors like rape, incest, bestiality, etc. Those are generally related to physiological conditions.

Homosexuality is simply the quality of being only interested in the same sex, as opposed to heterosexuality, the attraction to people of the opposite sex. Other than bisexuality, asexuality, anything else is not a sexual orientation. The status of being gay is not an aberrant behavior, simply because it's not a behavior suggested by fundamentalist cryout that simply doesn't understand and only chooses to spread hate and misinformation.



Ha ha, typo. Incest. Though if you are rather curious, insex could be something in my world.
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Posted 10/5/11
Of course I'm for gay marriage.

My marriage isn't affecting anyone so why the hell not.
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Posted 10/9/11
Why not? If two people love each other they should be able to get married. it doesn't affect anyone else, them getting married.

The only thing I'm very slightly hesitant on is lesbian parents. Lesbian couples are about 2x as violent as any other gender-combination of relationships, and so I don't feel that would be a good environment for a kid. That said there's always means tests etc.
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The only thing I'm very slightly hesitant on is lesbian parents. Lesbian couples are about 2x as violent as any other gender-combination of relationships, and so I don't feel that would be a good environment for a kid. That said there's always means tests etc.

That's about as nonsensical, and something I'm equally bothered by, as people who say same-sex parents are not good for raising a kid because the parents are leading a perverted lifestyle. Parent temperament has no connection with sexual orientation. And it is a bloated statistic to say violence level is completely 200% more than that of male pairs or opposite sex pairs. How is that even possible? I've never heard of a statistic like that and usually in order for them to make headlines you would hear something like 40% lesbian couples have anger and domestic violence issues as opposed to 25% of other pairings. That would result in a statistic of about 23% versus your 200%.
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Posted 10/20/11

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plainasusual wrote:

I am just curious, then. If people can fall in love with whomever they fall for like ^ has previously said, would insex be okay?
What in the world is insex? You think maybe you mean incest? If so then no. But there really isn't much widespread and legislative action done in support of incest, because of the stigma it carries with it in causing birth defects. Also incest isn't related to sexual orientation, being attracted to a sibling can happen to straight, gay or bi people. Which is why it's incorrect to equate homosexuality with things that are actually aberrant behaviors like rape, incest, bestiality, etc. Those are generally related to physiological conditions.

Homosexuality is simply the quality of being only interested in the same sex, as opposed to heterosexuality, the attraction to people of the opposite sex. Other than bisexuality, asexuality, anything else is not a sexual orientation. The status of being gay is not an aberrant behavior, simply because it's not a behavior suggested by fundamentalist cryout that simply doesn't understand and only chooses to spread hate and misinformation.



Just to play the devil's advocate, i can say the same thing about how you equate rape to incest, beastiality, virtual love, online sex, consensual man and boy love, woman and girl, and other consenual yet deviant acts. I believe the ultimate point that person was trying to make was that for those that believe you can fall in love with whomever you like, that isn't competely true by thier own admissions. We all have certain sexual acts we find deviant and might not want in our society TODAY; hence why this debate is still ongoing.

Cause 500 years ago and up until the 1960s i believe, homosexuality was considered an aberrant behavior. It just generally got more accepted in some countries. Just like how society shuns incest today, but ultimately it doesn't cause as much defects in babies as once believed. It really depends on the families recessive genes for diseases. And how in some 1st world countries, 13 yr old girls marrying 18 year old guys are shunned and illegal (even if they have sex), despite the fact that the age difference is not that much if you look 10 yrs in the future and 18 yr olds dont magically turn into mature adults.

and so on, i realize this thread isnt about incest or beastiality- its about same sex marriage. But the same way how one may see incest or beastiality, another may see homosexuality in the same light. It ultimately just comes down to what society favors at the time. I just wanted to shed some light on what that guy probably meant to say- probably to him and others all of these sexual acts are deviant and they dont see a need to draw a line between this one and that one-and the one over here, with these exceptions, ect. I just hope i live to see the day when beastiality becomes legal :D. it wouldn't be the first time animals have been taken seriously and subjected under the law. peace over war
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Posted 11/3/11
Yes to gay marriage.

Ignoring all the moral arguments that can be redundant. and I'm sure everyone has brought up in this forum already (Love, children, length of relationships...ext ext...)


For the legal issues.

If your partner is in the hospital dieing, or very sick, YOU SHOULD BE ALLOWED IN. They only allow family. I know a guy who got totally screwed when his mate died. He wasn't allowed in the room because the sick guy's family had issues with them being together.
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Posted 11/11/11
If you're against gay marriage, you're most likely a big asshole.
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Posted 11/25/11 , edited 11/25/11
I'm for it. Let them do what they want, dang. People try and push their own personal beliefs and opinions onto others, whom they have nothing to do with. Don't worry about what other people are doing unless it's direly affecting your health. And the choice to be with someone of the same sex can hardly affect someone else that badly. Let them do what they want.

Also, for all the orthodox-ly religious folk who use the Bible as an excuse not to legalise same-sex marriage: There are so many things in the Bible that we are not supposed to do but because the times have changed, it's okay now. God gave us the gift of having free-will to do what we please, whether it be bad or good. In the end it is our own fault whether we go to Heaven or Hell, if we so believe in the two. Anyways, with free-will comes along the decision to love whomever we please. So yeah.
Posted 12/1/11 , edited 12/1/11
love is love. little details can be set aside.
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Posted 12/7/11
there is no problem with gay marriages. those who do have a problem with it need to take a good look at them self and realize how self-centered they are. okay for starters if two people who you
1. have no relation to
2. never see in your life
3. do not hurt you in any way, shape or form
are both guys and decide to marry because they are deeply in love, may i ask, how the hell does it mean anything to you. let people live life the way they want to live their life because it is their LIFE. what if it was the other way around and the majority of marriages were man to man and you fell in love with a woman but, oh no but you cannot marry her. there is nothing wrong with homosexuals, and if you think they give two dams about your opinion on them well hahahaha there's the door :p
Posted 12/7/11
I am not against it, but I don't support it, just like I don't support breast cancer, who the fuck supports breast cancer? Anyhow, I would personally say that I have a problem with gay people, I just would not want anything in my ass, that being said, I do not think that it should be called gay "marriage", partnership would be a better fit. I think they should have children because I want my kids that I gave away to have good fashion sense and what not. In closing, I believe in eugenics and that not just anyone should be able to breed, one should have to take an iq test and get above a certain score to be able to have a child. That being said, I also believe in abortion, why should something that would be most likely unwanted, poorly cared for, and even more poorly taught be apart of our society? Abortion is good, it makes crime fall, that is all.
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Posted 12/7/11
im for gay marriage, though im bi so im not really sure if this has anything to do with me.
but seriously you cant catch a break nowadays definitely in highschool i mean if even a rumour gets out you get bombarded with questions you dont want to answer, its just difficult not to punch homophobes or people who just refuse to accept that homosexuality exists
*deep breath* need i continue?
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