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I'd also like for you to elaborate and preferably demonstrate how gay marriage is more harmful than opposite-sex marriage.
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Hah! Being a lesbian myself, I must say the idea of gay marriage is retarded. It's like how back in school, when all of us cool kids would play tag, then the teacher forces us to let the kid with a mental disability play as well. (when he can't even run!)

Make your own game fellas, it's significantly rude to the people that value marriage as a sacred ceremony between man and woman. Don't ruin the game for everyone, just because you want to be included! It pisses me off to see how stupid some gay marriage advocates can be.
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Hah! Being a lesbian myself, I must say the idea of gay marriage is retarded. It's like how back in school, when all of us cool kids would play tag, then the teacher forces us to let the kid with a mental disability play as well. (when he can't even run!)

Make your own game fellas, it's significantly rude to the people that value marriage as a sacred ceremony between man and woman. Don't ruin the game for everyone, just because you want to be included! It pisses me off to see how stupid some gay marriage advocates can be.


You miss some critical points. It's not about having two tuxedos.. (or wedding dresses) atop the wedding cake.

It's things like not being kicked out of your loved one's hospital room because some 'next of kin' who has never cared about said loved one in the past objects to your existence.

It's things like tax breaks and insurance coverage. spousal benefits. If you make a life with someone, why must it be with the opposite sex for you to enjoy all the benefits 'normal' married couples accept as a matter of course. These benefits are not religious sacrements or sacred laws they are government and societal policies. And in the case of government there should be separation of church and state.

your analogy breaks down right from the start. This is not a group of people having an new member forced on them. It is two people wanting to be treated the same as any other couple and for the most part be left alone to do so.

And perhaps the disabled kid couldn't run. But I see no evidence that gays and lesbians cannot love.





Posted 3/23/12

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You miss some critical points. It's not about having two tuxedos.. (or wedding dresses) atop the wedding cake.

It's things like not being kicked out of your loved one's hospital room because some 'next of kin' who has never cared about said loved one in the past objects to your existence.

It's things like tax breaks and insurance coverage. spousal benefits. If you make a life with someone, why must it be with the opposite sex for you to enjoy all the benefits 'normal' married couples accept as a matter of course. These benefits are not religious sacrements or sacred laws they are government and societal policies. And in the case of government there should be separation of church and state.

your analogy breaks down right from the start. This is not a group of people having an new member forced on them. It is two people wanting to be treated the same as any other couple and for the most part be left alone to do so.

And perhaps the disabled kid couldn't run. But I see no evidence that gays and lesbians cannot love.


Hence there's another possibility: Civil Union. Why don't they just focus on improving the quality of civil union? Its because they essentially want everyone to cheer for their "love" in a fashion of party, hereby insulting the traditions of marriage. Gays are mostly hypocrites. Its ridiculous.
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papagolfwhiskey wrote:

You miss some critical points. It's not about having two tuxedos.. (or wedding dresses) atop the wedding cake.

It's things like not being kicked out of your loved one's hospital room because some 'next of kin' who has never cared about said loved one in the past objects to your existence.

It's things like tax breaks and insurance coverage. spousal benefits. If you make a life with someone, why must it be with the opposite sex for you to enjoy all the benefits 'normal' married couples accept as a matter of course. These benefits are not religious sacrements or sacred laws they are government and societal policies. And in the case of government there should be separation of church and state.

your analogy breaks down right from the start. This is not a group of people having an new member forced on them. It is two people wanting to be treated the same as any other couple and for the most part be left alone to do so.

And perhaps the disabled kid couldn't run. But I see no evidence that gays and lesbians cannot love.


Hence there's another possibility: Civil Union. Why don't they just focus on improving the quality of civil union? Its because they essentially want everyone to cheer for their "love" in a fashion of party, hereby insulting the traditions of marriage. Gays are mostly hypocrites. Its ridiculous.


Why don't we make it fair for everyone and abolish marriage as a legal entity. That's proper separation between church and state. Wow. you don't know many gays do you? just a blanket statement that everyone is a hyprocrite who wants to walk down the isle.

funny thing is, it's not even a debate where I come from. We've had gay marriage for over nearly (perhaps over) a decade and I've yet to see any damage done to it .. at least none that rivals what most heterosexual movie stars do.
Posted 3/23/12

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Why don't we make it fair for everyone and abolish marriage as a legal entity. That's proper separation between church and state. Wow. you don't know many gays do you? just a blanket statement that everyone is a hyprocrite who wants to walk down the isle.

funny thing is, it's not even a debate where I come from. We've had gay marriage for over nearly (perhaps over) a decade and I've yet to see any damage done to it .. at least none that rivals what most heterosexual movie stars do.


I dont know many gay guys, but listening to all the gay marriage advocates pisses me off. But youre right. Marriage needs to be defined properly. It's just, over here, there's a bunch of gays screaming for marriage and equal treatment when there's already civil union which needs improvement.

But really, even though Ive never seen one, I would be insulted if I saw two gay men or women in a church or anywhere wearing tuxedos or white dresses walking down celebrating their marriage, if I were one of those old religious folks. Didn't the whole thing start from religion anyway?
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papagolfwhiskey wrote:

Why don't we make it fair for everyone and abolish marriage as a legal entity. That's proper separation between church and state. Wow. you don't know many gays do you? just a blanket statement that everyone is a hyprocrite who wants to walk down the isle.

funny thing is, it's not even a debate where I come from. We've had gay marriage for over nearly (perhaps over) a decade and I've yet to see any damage done to it .. at least none that rivals what most heterosexual movie stars do.


I dont know many gay guys, but listening to all the gay marriage advocates pisses me off. But youre right. Marriage needs to be defined properly. It's just, over here, there's a bunch of gays screaming for marriage and equal treatment when there's already civil union which needs improvement.

But really, even though Ive never seen one, I would be insulted if I saw two gay men or women in a church or anywhere wearing tuxedos or white dresses walking down celebrating their marriage, if I were one of those old religious folks. Didn't the whole thing start from religion anyway?


But there are congregations in my country who wouldn't be insulted and instead would be supportive. And in your country it's not possible to marry ANYWHERE. not before a JP. Not with the blessing of a druid, pastor, or preist who doesn't care about homosexuality. Don't you find that insulting? Religion is keeping you from getting married in a secular courtroom? what's up with that. certain christian sects are prevent other christians and non christians from blessing gay marriages. You don't find that insulting?

as for the advocates do you listen to them directly or filtered through a news outlet like Fox?

Posted 3/23/12

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But there are congregations in my country who wouldn't be insulted and instead would be supportive. And in your country it's not possible to marry ANYWHERE. not before a JP. Not with the blessing of a druid, pastor, or preist who doesn't care about homosexuality. Don't you find that insulting? Religion is keeping you from getting married in a secular courtroom? what's up with that. certain christian sects are prevent other christians and non christians from blessing gay marriages. You don't find that insulting?

as for the advocates do you listen to them directly or filtered through a news outlet like Fox?


Well to be truthful I think its stupid that gays desire a blessing from a priest. We chose to be different (in the end, screw the scientific crap), so to be expected to be treated the same as everyone else is ridiculous. Gays should just come up with their own forms of celebrations such as simple house parties or the like, hence my previos analogy.

Well of course people will disagree with me (aside from most of the Japanese), but personally I would view it as insulting as two American's born and brought up in America going to Japan to get married wearing those kimono's and stuff in a traditional fashion. Equal my ass, it's just insulting.
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I'm too tired for this. I guess it just proves that Lesbians can be just as narrow minded and ignorant as anyone else. Good night.
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Yeah. Okay. I'm ~narrow minded~ for being critical about the people of my own sexual orientation and respecting other cultures and traditions that don't conform with us. Okay.

How ~open minded~ must I be? Enough to let 40 year old men attend kindergarden as a student because ~everyones the same~, or must we next start world war if another culture from another country doesnt let gay Americans who've got no relations to the culture or country to marry there?
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AppIejack wrote:

Hah! Being a lesbian myself, I must say the idea of gay marriage is retarded. It's like how back in school, when all of us cool kids would play tag, then the teacher forces us to let the kid with a mental disability play as well. (when he can't even run!)

Make your own game fellas, it's significantly rude to the people that value marriage as a sacred ceremony between man and woman. Don't ruin the game for everyone, just because you want to be included! It pisses me off to see how stupid some gay marriage advocates can be.

Did you seriously equate homosexuality with retardation? That's wrong in more ways than I could imagine.

1. It's a false equivalence. You imply homosexual couples can't enjoy the things same-sex couples do. Please demonstrate this.

2. How is same sex marriage sacred? What does it being "sacred" even mean? Demonstrate this and elaborate how this is important regarding same/opposite sex marriage.






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Being mean was only a tool used to stress Lala's idiocy.
Unless Lala can come up with a good reason as to Why homosexuality is wrong, even so far as to be treated the same way as paedophilia, Lala's statements are moot.


Lala thinks you're a loser who thinks it's cool to insult people online for no reason.

Lala already came up with lots of good reasons why homosexuality is bad for society. Did you even read what Lala wrote? So stupid.
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You being a lesbian doesn't mean anything. Also you said it here:

I must say the idea of gay marriage is retarded. It's like how back in school, when all of us cool kids would play tag, then the teacher forces us to let the kid with a mental disability play as well. (when he can't even run!)


1. Can you post it again?
2. Please show me which definition for "sacred" you are using, to avoid miscommunication I'd like to use the same definition when talking about something. AND also demonstrate how opposite-sex marriage is "sacred" please.

Don't fall into the name calling, insult and other childish stuff, it's a red herring from the actual issue. Why do I even bother

Posted 3/24/12

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AppIejack wrote:



You being a lesbian doesn't mean anything. Also you said it here:

I must say the idea of gay marriage is retarded. It's like how back in school, when all of us cool kids would play tag, then the teacher forces us to let the kid with a mental disability play as well. (when he can't even run!)


1. Can you post it again?
2. Please show me which definition for "sacred" you are using, to avoid miscommunication I'd like to use the same definition when talking about something. AND also demonstrate how opposite-sex marriage is "sacred" please.

Don't fall into the name calling, insult and other childish stuff, it's a red herring from the actual issue. Why do I even bother


Did you seriously equate equate with compare? That's wrong in more ways than I could imagine.

1. Why should I post it again when you can scroll up? Didn't I tell you to re-read it 20 times?

2. sa·cred (skrd)
adj.
1. Dedicated to or set apart for the worship of a deity.
2. Worthy of religious veneration: the sacred teachings of the Buddha.
3. Made or declared holy: sacred bread and wine.
4. Dedicated or devoted exclusively to a single use, purpose, or person: sacred to the memory of her sister; a private office sacred to the President.
5. Worthy of respect; venerable.
6. Of or relating to religious objects, rites, or practices.

Choose any you like. By the way, why are you trying to play logician when you fail to conceive the slightest argument? i mean, "give me a definition of sacred"? talk about picky.

P.S. do you even know what a red herring is?

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I'm for it lol Right after I got into this forum I went straight down to the box comment haha! I don't see the reason why people need to against this though! It's not gross or inappropriately! This is what love all about!!!! People wake up, stop being ignorant and keep only the fact that only women and men can be together! You don't know how it feel of being a homosexuality (Gays are still a human they have flesh and heart just like us). Stop thinking that ''I thinks this is wrong because I am not them, so no I will against it!'' people who are against this are being a selfish PERSON! Though I don't know what will be the turning out of the future...you know the production...stuffs, but comon too many people causes the world and environments bad already!!!
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