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Do you think this is disrepectful?
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Posted 5/7/08

supermalv wrote:

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damn this world must've look so black and white in front of your eyes.
plus you don't even know what her family situation is like. what if her parents were abusive and that was the source of her depression??
seriously.. get your head that's buried deep inside your ass out. this world works diffrent than you think.

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anyways.. I say it's very disrespectful for them to do that.
who the fuck are the teacher to judge her like that??
now that it's already happened though. A life was lost. No matter in what way it was lost with. It's not right to prevent anybody to want to feel sad or want to say final farewell or pay tribute to her.

i'd collect petition and contact the board of education if I was you.



no no no no no no! are you saying that any problem you encounter is good enough to
say suicide is correct! cause that is what you're saying. Depression is one thing, it leads to
suicide, but you can still think about it, and stop it, with help, that is what any person does, any
sane person, they go out and get help, or talk about it, but the barrel of a gun is cold, and
it really doesn't help much, but cause more damage.
So it doesn't matter if she was having problems, they will never be enough of them to blast your head
out.
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drunk_ghost wrote:

school cant just stop because someone decides to commit suicide. people die all the time , get over it


i strongly agree.
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TOF14 wrote:


wingdavid01 wrote:


TOF14 wrote:


wingdavid01 wrote:


TOF14 wrote:


wingdavid01 wrote:

I would call anyone that commits suicide a piece of shit, your teacher was right.
And no it is not disrespectful, one less waste in the world doesn't hurt anyone, except her family,
but seeing as she didn't care what her family felt, than she is a big piece of shit.
did you know the girl? why did you need counseling for such a trivial thing??


Yes, I knew her. And she killed herself because of her family.



you needed a counselor cause your friend killed herself?
that is ridiculous, she might have been a close friend, but she
was a waste, a despicable human being for going against nature! She deserves
no mourning, there is no problem big enough that should make people kill themselves.
When they do then those people are the worst


Actually I didn't want to go to counseling. I just wanted to be alone, you know try to forget about it. They dragged me and 2 other girls in the room and just started talking to us and asking us questions. I didn't answer any of them so they let me go but put me back in there...



well you should have said something like, "I didn't even like her, so, bye!" you're not
thinking about killing yourself are you?


No. That's not anything I would EVER consider.



those people that commit suicide think that killing themselves will solve their problems, but
they leave more problems, and they end up looking like selfish bastards, that don't care about
anything, or no one. So even though it was your friend, you should feel ashamed for having met
her.
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While I personally have no respect for anyone who decides to kill themselves, I'm not going to publically bash them, and I have no right to tell anyone else not to mourn for them. While it is unrealistic to expect a school to just stop because one kid committed suicide, they should at least let you leave flowers and notes and such on her desk.
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TOF14 wrote:

My school has a curse. For 4 years straight some kid has killed themself.

On Monday, Emily Jimenez continued the pattern. She shot herself in the head.

My school went along with the regular schedule. In gym my teacher said, if you're upset about Emily go to the auditorium and a therapist will come talk to you. I was sent their twice and had to go to counseling. I was a mess.

Here's the problem:

If we place flowers on her desk or in her locker, they take them out and throw them away. If you write "Emily you're always loved" or something of that matter, you get yelled at for "making a distraction." The teachers had a meeting the other day about that too. They were told to say what Emily did was wrong and a bad choice. Of course I was very offended. We all know that you shouldn't kill yourself when you're depressed or having problems. But they didn't have to say it. My math teacher was telling us and he didn't even call her by her name, Emily! he called her "that girl" like she was a peice of shit.

Don't you think that's disrespectful?


It's fine to say that it was wrong, because it was. Why sugar coat the situation? The flowers and cards and stuff should be held fine I guess, but they probably figure that it will cause an issue to students who were her friend. Somethings are ok in a place of business, while other things are not. As cruel as it sounds, its inappropriate to do that during the school day. It isn't like staff members that knew the girl aren't hurting too you realize.

They don't do it out of disrespect, but rather they do it for the sake of order in the school.
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It's disrespectful but I see why they would do that.
Posted 5/7/08

Tahmnong wrote:

While I personally have no respect for anyone who decides to kill themselves, I'm not going to publically bash them, and I have no right to tell anyone else not to mourn for them. While it is unrealistic to expect a school to just stop because one kid committed suicide, they should at least let you leave flowers and notes and such on her desk.


I didn't expect my school to stop. I actually wanted to go to my classes so I can keep my mind off of that. What I really expected from my school was to allow us to mourn. Even if it was for a minute or two. I mean, I wrote "Emily, I miss you." on my notebook and got yelled at. Really, to me, that's not reasonable at all.
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TOF14 wrote:


Tahmnong wrote:

While I personally have no respect for anyone who decides to kill themselves, I'm not going to publically bash them, and I have no right to tell anyone else not to mourn for them. While it is unrealistic to expect a school to just stop because one kid committed suicide, they should at least let you leave flowers and notes and such on her desk.


I didn't expect my school to stop. I actually wanted to go to my classes so I can keep my mind off of that. What I really expected from my school was to allow us to mourn. Even if it was for a minute or two. I mean, I wrote "Emily, I miss you." on my notebook and got yelled at. Really, to me, that's not reasonable at all.


If it was on your notebook and not the school's desk or any other type of public property, then I don't see what the problem is. Since when is doodling on your own papers a crime in school?? Your school's crazy With the kind of margin doodles I do, I'd probably be expelled from your school by now haha. I would have to agree with you there, if it's your paper and your ink, as long as you weren't disrupting any of the other students around you, then yeah, that is unreasonable.
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no no no no no no! are you saying that any problem you encounter is good enough to
say suicide is correct! cause that is what you're saying. Depression is one thing, it leads to
suicide, but you can still think about it, and stop it, with help, that is what any person does, any
sane person, they go out and get help, or talk about it, but the barrel of a gun is cold, and
it really doesn't help much, but cause more damage.
So it doesn't matter if she was having problems, they will never be enough of them to blast your head
out.


i never said in any way that suicide is correct.

my point was more like.. who the fuck are you to judge that she's a piece of shit just because she gave up on life?

How hard is YOUR life anyway? you sound like you're an expert in depression and suicidal behaviour. Have you ever been raped/molested/abused throughout your whole life? What have you faced in life that earns you the right to call those people that gave up as a piece of shit anyway?

i know that you don't suppose to give up when the going gets tough. But i'm asking you. Have you ever faced the magnitude when the shit gets tough in life??

even if you have. (which i doubt)

That still doesn't earn you the right to disrespect that girl like that. Not everybody have the same mental resillient within them.
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wow.... what a bunch of dissrespectful ass fuckers, I'd get up and punch out any fucker that would try to stop me from praying for a poor soul who lived through enough hell to believe death was better than life.... I'd be a wreck if any of my friends died, and I wouldn't know what I'd do if sombody stopped me from mourning for them.... please try to get over it, but never forget emily, because her memory is probably the only proof left that she lived.... and once a person is forgoten..... they are gone for good....
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wingdavid01 wrote:


no no no no no no! are you saying that any problem you encounter is good enough to
say suicide is correct! cause that is what you're saying. Depression is one thing, it leads to
suicide, but you can still think about it, and stop it, with help, that is what any person does, any
sane person, they go out and get help, or talk about it, but the barrel of a gun is cold, and
it really doesn't help much, but cause more damage.
So it doesn't matter if she was having problems, they will never be enough of them to blast your head
out.


i never said in any way that suicide is correct.

my point was more like.. who the fuck are you to judge that she's a piece of shit just because she gave up on life?

How hard is YOUR life anyway? you sound like you're an expert in depression and suicidal behaviour. Have you ever been raped/molested/abused throughout your whole life? What have you faced in life that earns you the right to call those people that gave up as a piece of shit anyway?

i know that you don't suppose to give up when the going gets tough. But i'm asking you. Have you ever faced the magnitude when the shit gets tough in life??

even if you have. (which i doubt)

That still doesn't earn you the right to disrespect that girl like that. Not everybody have the same mental resillient within them.



believe it or not my life wasn't nice at all. And I don't care if you don't believe me, so don't worry about that.
It gives me every right to say anything to a person that cares nothing for their life, it gives anyone
the right to scrutinize them, since they rather die than work the problem out, I know it is hard, but
giving up won't do a damn thing! So why respect them when they're dead, since when they were
alive they had no respect for themselves. Oh I hate people like that, they squirm at the problems with
life, just think about all the other people who would do anything just for a couple of minutes of life, when
they have serious diseases, or other things, and here comes some idiot, that just cause his mommy
is bad, or daddy, oh she got raped, she got shot, she did this and that, she ends her life, how
cheap is that? All I'm trying to say, is that those people deserve no respect, it is not about others
being resilient and others not being, its about going on and fighting it, and if you don't succeed then, at least
you tried, but she didn't she just killed herself, the easy way out.
Posted 5/7/08
that is definitely disrespectful.
their attitudes are so messed up.
Posted 5/7/08
yea...I guess.... >.<
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wow, I guess you shouldn't grieve during class time but the way the teachers handled it was kind of wrong.... salty stix girl; just hang tight
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wingdavid01 wrote:

believe it or not my life wasn't nice at all. And I don't care if you don't believe me, so don't worry about that.
It gives me every right to say anything to a person that cares nothing for their life, it gives anyone
the right to scrutinize them, since they rather die than work the problem out, I know it is hard, but
giving up won't do a damn thing! So why respect them when they're dead, since when they were
alive they had no respect for themselves. Oh I hate people like that, they squirm at the problems with
life, just think about all the other people who would do anything just for a couple of minutes of life, when
they have serious diseases, or other things, and here comes some idiot, that just cause his mommy
is bad, or daddy, oh she got raped, she got shot, she did this and that, she ends her life, how
cheap is that? All I'm trying to say, is that those people deserve no respect, it is not about others
being resilient and others not being, its about going on and fighting it, and if you don't succeed then, at least
you tried, but she didn't she just killed herself, the easy way out.


Well since you are a big fan of scrutinizing other people's life. We should get started with yours.

And here i'm asking again. What have YOU been through to earn you the right to have a say on this subject matter at hand?

Don't dodge the question. Answer it. This is important. Coz you said she's a piece of shit for giving up in life. And i said you don't even know what hardship in life means.

You replied you do know.

then i want to know what you have been through.

You know? to see if your claim have any credibility to it or are you just spitting some crap out of your ass. Coz if your opinion is just based on some idealistic theory crap. And you haven't even been through any of the intense pain that life give you. Then don't even friggin talk like you know it all.

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