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It is extremely disrespectful. However I am going to play Devil's advocate here and say that since the end of the school year is coming to a close that the teachers want you to keep studying and not just worry about Emily.
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Seems like the school is trying to contain the students feelings.
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Dang that was REALLY mean If I was emily I would come after him and not only that U R SCHOOL IS HAUNTED!!!!!!

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supermalv wrote:


wingdavid01 wrote:

believe it or not my life wasn't nice at all. And I don't care if you don't believe me, so don't worry about that.
It gives me every right to say anything to a person that cares nothing for their life, it gives anyone
the right to scrutinize them, since they rather die than work the problem out, I know it is hard, but
giving up won't do a damn thing! So why respect them when they're dead, since when they were
alive they had no respect for themselves. Oh I hate people like that, they squirm at the problems with
life, just think about all the other people who would do anything just for a couple of minutes of life, when
they have serious diseases, or other things, and here comes some idiot, that just cause his mommy
is bad, or daddy, oh she got raped, she got shot, she did this and that, she ends her life, how
cheap is that? All I'm trying to say, is that those people deserve no respect, it is not about others
being resilient and others not being, its about going on and fighting it, and if you don't succeed then, at least
you tried, but she didn't she just killed herself, the easy way out.


Well since you are a big fan of scrutinizing other people's life. We should get started with yours.

And here i'm asking again. What have YOU been through to earn you the right to have a say on this subject matter at hand?

Don't dodge the question. Answer it. This is important. Coz you said she's a piece of shit for giving up in life. And i said you don't even know what hardship in life means.

You replied you do know.

then i want to know what you have been through.

You know? to see if your claim have any credibility to it or are you just spitting some crap out of your ass. Coz if your opinion is just based on some idealistic theory crap. And you haven't even been through any of the intense pain that life give you. Then don't even friggin talk like you know it all.

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you ever lived in a foster home?
I doubt it, well it isn't the nicest place, especially when its not in this country.
see I lived for most of my young life in Mexico, and I was born in L.A, but unfortunately
my parents didn't want me, it was hard as it was with both of them trying to make it,
with me, it was even harder. So my so called mom sent me away with an aunt, but she
didn't care, she took me to a foster home. and i grew up there. I'm not gonna lie not everything
was bad, but we were looked down as trash, as things that others had left behind, or leftovers.
life in a foster home is hectic, you go to this house, you're not behaving good they take you back, and so
on. well I lived with a lot of familes, some were just as worse as my parents some real nice, but with no
money at all, i have to say they lived off less than a dollar. if you don't believe, i don't care, its
my life I wouldn't dare lie about that!
I've lived in parts of towns where you can't go out much, drugs, gangs, and fear, that was the worst, the
damn fear even in your own house! I was in a house of a couple that had to sell drugs to live on, it was
a disaster. I felt mad at everyone, and at the foster house. I saw things only movies can top.
being a foster kid is not fun and games, there were many kids that never came back, i was lucky.
even in the foster home i was scared, the pricks that ran it were evil bastard, why? they didn't care, at
night they went home to their familes, so why care.
anyways, it ended with my parents coming to pick me up, after ten years, ten years! and they had realized they made a mistake? they're a bunch of evil fuckers! my stay wasn't long, and i ended up being beaten by
my stepdad, my other dad was gone, my mom didn't care, there were guns in the house, we were now in L.A
I knew how to use guns, so I thought about it, use it, but not to kill myself, i knew it was a stupid thing to do, kill
them! but nah I wanted to somehow be happy, and i was, with my grandma, i still live with her, she is my mom
she worked her ass off, and i helped her, my grandpa too, he worked his ass off all his life. so you
see i do know about being down in the gutter, and i do know about being depressed, and I'm not lying!
and I don't care what you say!
even so I still believe that those who kill themselves are pathetic losers, no matter what they went through.
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Well, I think other people would wanna use her locker space. How bout just having a service? Doesnt have to be in school. Could be her home, her usualy hangout place.. Just a small gathering of her friends coming together to talk about her. And then stop all the flower/locker/writing thing. It will be thrown away/washed away anyway.

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wingdavid01 wrote:

you ever lived in a foster home?
I doubt it, well it isn't the nicest place, especially when its not in this country.
see I lived for most of my young life in Mexico, and I was born in L.A, but unfortunately
my parents didn't want me, it was hard as it was with both of them trying to make it,
with me, it was even harder. So my so called mom sent me away with an aunt, but she
didn't care, she took me to a foster home. and i grew up there. I'm not gonna lie not everything
was bad, but we were looked down as trash, as things that others had left behind, or leftovers.
life in a foster home is hectic, you go to this house, you're not behaving good they take you back, and so
on. well I lived with a lot of familes, some were just as worse as my parents some real nice, but with no
money at all, i have to say they lived off less than a dollar. if you don't believe, i don't care, its
my life I wouldn't dare lie about that!
I've lived in parts of towns where you can't go out much, drugs, gangs, and fear, that was the worst, the
damn fear even in your own house! I was in a house of a couple that had to sell drugs to live on, it was
a disaster. I felt mad at everyone, and at the foster house. I saw things only movies can top.
being a foster kid is not fun and games, there were many kids that never came back, i was lucky.
even in the foster home i was scared, the pricks that ran it were evil bastard, why? they didn't care, at
night they went home to their familes, so why care.
anyways, it ended with my parents coming to pick me up, after ten years, ten years! and they had realized they made a mistake? they're a bunch of evil fuckers! my stay wasn't long, and i ended up being beaten by
my stepdad, my other dad was gone, my mom didn't care, there were guns in the house, we were now in L.A
I knew how to use guns, so I thought about it, use it, but not to kill myself, i knew it was a stupid thing to do, kill
them! but nah I wanted to somehow be happy, and i was, with my grandma, i still live with her, she is my mom
she worked her ass off, and i helped her, my grandpa too, he worked his ass off all his life. so you
see i do know about being down in the gutter, and i do know about being depressed, and I'm not lying!
and I don't care what you say!
even so I still believe that those who kill themselves are pathetic losers, no matter what they went through.


i still think you're point of view is too extreme

yes i agree that suicide is wrong. But to frown down upon it like it's a shameful and dirty thing? that's a whole diffrent perspective.
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supermalv wrote:


wingdavid01 wrote:

you ever lived in a foster home?
I doubt it, well it isn't the nicest place, especially when its not in this country.
see I lived for most of my young life in Mexico, and I was born in L.A, but unfortunately
my parents didn't want me, it was hard as it was with both of them trying to make it,
with me, it was even harder. So my so called mom sent me away with an aunt, but she
didn't care, she took me to a foster home. and i grew up there. I'm not gonna lie not everything
was bad, but we were looked down as trash, as things that others had left behind, or leftovers.
life in a foster home is hectic, you go to this house, you're not behaving good they take you back, and so
on. well I lived with a lot of familes, some were just as worse as my parents some real nice, but with no
money at all, i have to say they lived off less than a dollar. if you don't believe, i don't care, its
my life I wouldn't dare lie about that!
I've lived in parts of towns where you can't go out much, drugs, gangs, and fear, that was the worst, the
damn fear even in your own house! I was in a house of a couple that had to sell drugs to live on, it was
a disaster. I felt mad at everyone, and at the foster house. I saw things only movies can top.
being a foster kid is not fun and games, there were many kids that never came back, i was lucky.
even in the foster home i was scared, the pricks that ran it were evil bastard, why? they didn't care, at
night they went home to their familes, so why care.
anyways, it ended with my parents coming to pick me up, after ten years, ten years! and they had realized they made a mistake? they're a bunch of evil fuckers! my stay wasn't long, and i ended up being beaten by
my stepdad, my other dad was gone, my mom didn't care, there were guns in the house, we were now in L.A
I knew how to use guns, so I thought about it, use it, but not to kill myself, i knew it was a stupid thing to do, kill
them! but nah I wanted to somehow be happy, and i was, with my grandma, i still live with her, she is my mom
she worked her ass off, and i helped her, my grandpa too, he worked his ass off all his life. so you
see i do know about being down in the gutter, and i do know about being depressed, and I'm not lying!
and I don't care what you say!
even so I still believe that those who kill themselves are pathetic losers, no matter what they went through.


i still think you're point of view is too extreme

yes i agree that suicide is wrong. But to frown down upon it like it's a shameful and dirty thing? that's a whole diffrent perspective.



that;s fine I respect that, but I really can't stand it, you have more heart than me I guess.
I guess I'm used to hating people that give up on life.
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Posted 5/7/08 , edited 5/7/08

TOF14 wrote:

My school has a curse. For 4 years straight some kid has killed themself.

On Monday, Emily Jimenez continued the pattern. She shot herself in the head.

My school went along with the regular schedule. In gym my teacher said, if you're upset about Emily go to the auditorium and a therapist will come talk to you. I was sent their twice and had to go to counseling. I was a mess.

Here's the problem:

If we place flowers on her desk or in her locker, they take them out and throw them away. If you write "Emily you're always loved" or something of that matter, you get yelled at for "making a distraction." The teachers had a meeting the other day about that too. They were told to say what Emily did was wrong and a bad choice. Of course I was very offended. We all know that you shouldn't kill yourself when you're depressed or having problems. But they didn't have to say it. My math teacher was telling us and he didn't even call her by her name, Emily! he called her "that girl" like she was a peice of shit.

Don't you think that's disrespectful?


Yeah its disrespectful do you go to a religious school? That could be the reason since they "believe" she'll go to hell for committing suicide.

This one school a person died each year for a good run. A kid got poisoned by his best friend one year and another I think some guy jumped out the building. I forgot the rest though.
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TOF14 wrote:

My school has a curse. For 4 years straight some kid has killed themself.

On Monday, Emily Jimenez continued the pattern. She shot herself in the head.

My school went along with the regular schedule. In gym my teacher said, if you're upset about Emily go to the auditorium and a therapist will come talk to you. I was sent their twice and had to go to counseling. I was a mess.

Here's the problem:

If we place flowers on her desk or in her locker, they take them out and throw them away. If you write "Emily you're always loved" or something of that matter, you get yelled at for "making a distraction." The teachers had a meeting the other day about that too. They were told to say what Emily did was wrong and a bad choice. Of course I was very offended. We all know that you shouldn't kill yourself when you're depressed or having problems. But they didn't have to say it. My math teacher was telling us and he didn't even call her by her name, Emily! he called her "that girl" like she was a peice of shit.

Don't you think that's disrespectful?


I believe if you do something stupid then you dont deserved to be mourned. Friend cody died while drinking and driving and we were close but I ended up ditchin the funeral because what he did was stupid as hell and I didnt care.
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heres wut i think about poeple who suicide. they are jus cowards who are unable to face the worlds problems. they are jus taking the easy way out but the truth is life is hard and they jus gotta accept that.
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TOF14 wrote:

My school has a curse. For 4 years straight some kid has killed themself.

On Monday, Emily Jimenez continued the pattern. She shot herself in the head.

My school went along with the regular schedule. In gym my teacher said, if you're upset about Emily go to the auditorium and a therapist will come talk to you. I was sent their twice and had to go to counseling. I was a mess.

Here's the problem:

If we place flowers on her desk or in her locker, they take them out and throw them away. If you write "Emily you're always loved" or something of that matter, you get yelled at for "making a distraction." The teachers had a meeting the other day about that too. They were told to say what Emily did was wrong and a bad choice. Of course I was very offended. We all know that you shouldn't kill yourself when you're depressed or having problems. But they didn't have to say it. My math teacher was telling us and he didn't even call her by her name, Emily! he called her "that girl" like she was a peice of shit.

Don't you think that's disrespectful?


gosh you're from NJ? I live near there, but I havent heard any news like that. I think it is really disrespectful, and that they shouldnt just be so nonchalant about this kind of stuff. May she Rest in Peace.
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thats damn sad
that teacher is a disrespectful a-hole
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voidlugiron wrote:

Grieve for her on your own time. There is no rule that you have to do it in school. Not to mention it's not like she was involved in an accident or anything. It's simply that she didn't have the will to live and made the choice to kill herself. If that makes you said go ahead and mourn for her but the school doesn't need to put up with that kind of shit from her decision.

tl;dr
No, It's not disrespectful


I concur.
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TOF14 wrote:

My school has a curse. For 4 years straight some kid has killed themself.

On Monday, Emily Jimenez continued the pattern. She shot herself in the head.

My school went along with the regular schedule. In gym my teacher said, if you're upset about Emily go to the auditorium and a therapist will come talk to you. I was sent their twice and had to go to counseling. I was a mess.

Here's the problem:

If we place flowers on her desk or in her locker, they take them out and throw them away. If you write "Emily you're always loved" or something of that matter, you get yelled at for "making a distraction." The teachers had a meeting the other day about that too. They were told to say what Emily did was wrong and a bad choice. Of course I was very offended. We all know that you shouldn't kill yourself when you're depressed or having problems. But they didn't have to say it. My math teacher was telling us and he didn't even call her by her name, Emily! he called her "that girl" like she was a peice of shit.

Don't you think that's disrespectful?


Because you live in America. The most disrespectful country in the world.
Posted 5/9/08 , edited 5/9/08

Incontrovertible wrote:


TOF14 wrote:

My school has a curse. For 4 years straight some kid has killed themself.

On Monday, Emily Jimenez continued the pattern. She shot herself in the head.

My school went along with the regular schedule. In gym my teacher said, if you're upset about Emily go to the auditorium and a therapist will come talk to you. I was sent their twice and had to go to counseling. I was a mess.

Here's the problem:

If we place flowers on her desk or in her locker, they take them out and throw them away. If you write "Emily you're always loved" or something of that matter, you get yelled at for "making a distraction." The teachers had a meeting the other day about that too. They were told to say what Emily did was wrong and a bad choice. Of course I was very offended. We all know that you shouldn't kill yourself when you're depressed or having problems. But they didn't have to say it. My math teacher was telling us and he didn't even call her by her name, Emily! he called her "that girl" like she was a peice of shit.

Don't you think that's disrespectful?


Yeah its disrespectful do you go to a religious school? That could be the reason since they "believe" she'll go to hell for committing suicide.

This one school a person died each year for a good run. A kid got poisoned by his best friend one year and another I think some guy jumped out the building. I forgot the rest though.


Actually, I go to a public school. It's wrong that they brought religion into this issue and that this school keeps bringing it up.

I had an arguement with the counsalor yesterday. She had to apologize. First, we know what's right from wrong. What Emily did was wrong and she should had never done it. We know that. Our parents teach us that and we know from experience. The school didn't not have to tell us this. Plus, the fact that she did not kill herself in school makes another reason why I think my school was wrong. They should have never gotten involved. They should of let us put flowers on her desk and in her locker. It's not hurting anybody. It's not ruining the schedule. Of course at the end of the week (or even possibly the day) they can throw them away. The teachers should not yell at us for writing her name. I wrote "I miss Emily" and got yelled at. THere are about 4 Emilys. It could have been anyone. And by writing that on my hand, I'm not hurting anyone, making a distraction. Plus, barely anybody would notice. The students notice me breaking a rule and not my hand. Yes, that makes sense...

I think our school shouldn't have done anything at all. Even if her way of death was wrong (and as some of you think, she shouldn't be mourned) she was still a student to this school. She contributed like everyone else and I think deserves the same amount of respect as a teacher would if they were to die.

I respect your thoughts and I do thank you because I was being a pain in the ass when I typed this.
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