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Do you think this is disrepectful?
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Posted 5/9/08
yea...maybe....it's their student...
Posted 5/9/08
Hold on, your school is cursed!?
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30 / M / Noitacol
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if can...i would punch that teachers.....
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23 / F / Nueva York
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when a teacher in my school had passed away last year,
people were allowed to bring flowers..
it was a big deal and many people who didn't even know him were upset and had to go to the counselor guy
Posted 5/9/08
i want to call GTO right away......
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29 / M / over the hills an...
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no, suicide isnt for glory ... you should really stop moping around too
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oh and one more thing .... i dont care to respect someone who is in the position where respect means nothing i.e dead

if ur dead u wont care
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yes
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23 / F / Doha, Qatar :)
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my gosh, she should have shot "that teacher" instead, that's worse than disrespect! ahmph.
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TOF14 wrote:

My school has a curse. For 4 years straight some kid has killed themself.

On Monday, Emily Jimenez continued the pattern. She shot herself in the head.

My school went along with the regular schedule. In gym my teacher said, if you're upset about Emily go to the auditorium and a therapist will come talk to you. I was sent their twice and had to go to counseling. I was a mess.

Here's the problem:

If we place flowers on her desk or in her locker, they take them out and throw them away. If you write "Emily you're always loved" or something of that matter, you get yelled at for "making a distraction." The teachers had a meeting the other day about that too. They were told to say what Emily did was wrong and a bad choice. Of course I was very offended. We all know that you shouldn't kill yourself when you're depressed or having problems. But they didn't have to say it. My math teacher was telling us and he didn't even call her by her name, Emily! he called her "that girl" like she was a peice of shit.

Don't you think that's disrespectful?


U should really try talking to the school board about this I mean seriously and if they don't listen start trouble I mean like call the local new where u r from and tell them how disrespectful they r to ur late friend hell I'll be dam if my school did that I'd make fucking hell in that school
Posted 5/9/08
i'm guessing that since she killed herself, she's not goin' to care that much
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Bummer...to die and having flowers thrown away....that sucks

Did she kill herself because she was depressed? or was she just trying to follow the pattern...as in she wanted the curse to continue... Your school sucks...don't die there
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Posted 5/9/08

TOF14 wrote:


Incontrovertible wrote:


TOF14 wrote:

My school has a curse. For 4 years straight some kid has killed themself.

On Monday, Emily Jimenez continued the pattern. She shot herself in the head.

My school went along with the regular schedule. In gym my teacher said, if you're upset about Emily go to the auditorium and a therapist will come talk to you. I was sent their twice and had to go to counseling. I was a mess.

Here's the problem:

If we place flowers on her desk or in her locker, they take them out and throw them away. If you write "Emily you're always loved" or something of that matter, you get yelled at for "making a distraction." The teachers had a meeting the other day about that too. They were told to say what Emily did was wrong and a bad choice. Of course I was very offended. We all know that you shouldn't kill yourself when you're depressed or having problems. But they didn't have to say it. My math teacher was telling us and he didn't even call her by her name, Emily! he called her "that girl" like she was a peice of shit.

Don't you think that's disrespectful?


Yeah its disrespectful do you go to a religious school? That could be the reason since they "believe" she'll go to hell for committing suicide.

This one school a person died each year for a good run. A kid got poisoned by his best friend one year and another I think some guy jumped out the building. I forgot the rest though.


Actually, I go to a public school. It's wrong that they brought religion into this issue and that this school keeps bringing it up.

I had an arguement with the counsalor yesterday. She had to apologize. First, we know what's right from wrong. What Emily did was wrong and she should had never done it. We know that. Our parents teach us that and we know from experience. The school didn't not have to tell us this. Plus, the fact that she did not kill herself in school makes another reason why I think my school was wrong. They should have never gotten involved. They should of let us put flowers on her desk and in her locker. It's not hurting anybody. It's not ruining the schedule. Of course at the end of the week (or even possibly the day) they can throw them away. The teachers should not yell at us for writing her name. I wrote "I miss Emily" and got yelled at. THere are about 4 Emilys. It could have been anyone. And by writing that on my hand, I'm not hurting anyone, making a distraction. Plus, barely anybody would notice. The students notice me breaking a rule and not my hand. Yes, that makes sense...

I think our school shouldn't have done anything at all. Even if her way of death was wrong (and as some of you think, she shouldn't be mourned) she was still a student to this school. She contributed like everyone else and I think deserves the same amount of respect as a teacher would if they were to die.

I respect your thoughts and I do thank you because I was being a pain in the ass when I typed this.


I don't see the problem in it either. If someone wants to mourn a friend or someone they know, no one has the right to say that they are unable to do so.
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Maybe people are not comfortable accepting her death. By putting flowers or write memoirs for her would probably not make others feel better. It is more like a reminder for them that someone just died and the reason of the death is suicide. If it is a tragic event people would want to forget about it, you said the same too. I think the teachers are doing their best to shelter the student. If you really wish to do something, it is probably better to do that on your own time and place, so others won't be affected by it.
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i think it was highly disprespectful.
when someone dies, and whatever way they die, memorial and graves arent there really for the person who died. they are for the people who are left behind. the people who have died are fine after they have gone, it is the people left behind who grieve and need the rituals associated with grieving to achieve closure and say goodbye. and telling friends and family "what they did was wrong," "they will go to hell", "they were selfish", etc ONLY PUNISHES THE LIVING, not the person who commited suicide.

what do they think this is achieving? not only are they not qualified to judge the person who died, unless they think they are god and have THAT right, which is incrediblly arrogant, they are in fact punishing the people who didnt even do what they are so against. why make friends and family feel like shit? dont you think the person dying is enough for them to deal with at that time? seriously, is being right and judgemental that important to you? does it override the right of the loved one to mourn in the way that they choose to?

my friend killed himself at a very young age. i dont care what anyone here might say about that, because i have made peace with what he has done and i know what a truely special person he was. your words wont hurt me now, and they certainly wont hurt him. but less than a week after he died someone felt the need to tell me what a selfish person my friend was. and he didnt even know him. as you can imagine it did not help. i didnt need to defend my friend to strangers on top of grieving. if youve been hurt by suicide personally and are angry that can be normal too and it is your right to react to that experience. but if youve never experienced it and want to give the people left behind a hard time by speaking ill of their dead, seriously, shame on you.

in this particular case (op), i can understand wanting to shield the students, but ignoring it doesnt help. they could have placed a discreet memorial somewhere for a few days away from people in case they dont want reminding. but to not even refer to a dead person by name isnt on at all. and the OP seems to imply that teachers were less than polite about the deceased girls manner of death.
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