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The Beijing Olympics and its' turmoil
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I wish that the Chinese government wouldn't be so controlling, but I can't help but point out that boycotting the Olympics will
1) Hurt the participants.
2) Hurt China.
3) Be pretty pointless.
So, even though I don't particularly like China, I think that we should participate and be good sports.
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the olympics are in 2 months go china!!! no i would never boycott the olympics, and i think it's just stupid. not my problem if some of you wanna miss out on the fun.
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fucking racist thread starter!
at least China didnt invade a country for oil and caused a total mess there! see America for details!
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1.) Chinese imperialism and cruelty in Tibet, nearby islands, etc
2.) Collaborating with shady real estate businesses and stealing the homes of countless villagers.
3.) Collaboration with shady construction companies to create unsafe buildings.
4.) Destroying freedom of speech in all its forms.
4a.) Jailing protesters for the simply saying one word on the street.
4b.) Arresting bloggers.
4c.) Trying to control the internet through restrictions, blocks, and arrests.
4d.) Targeting groups for merely potential threats (ie. capable of rallying support) even if they're just there.
5.) Randomly arresting people for political purposes> Creating secret prisons > Falun Gong organ harvests.
5c.) Yes. They're arresting suspected Falun Gong members for no reason, sending them to jails in a
kangaroo court, and executing them to sell their organs to rich western clients.
6.) Literally attacking foreign countries, not with protestors, but with firebombs and kidnappings when groups
hold programs to investigate China's human right's record.

?.) + So much shit I can't even believe a country like China is even possible.

My parents still remember the insanity from when Mae was still alive and escaping from China, but with the advent of a technological savvy Chinese government I can't even imagine the terror they'll spread. Orwell's 1984 doesn't have shit on China.

If the people of China were allowed given the information we get on the internet daily about political corruption... Well I just hope there'll be a Tiananmen Square where the people get members of the police and military on their side and stage a coup d'etat that purges the corrupt elements from the government. Of course keeping them out is the real problem (No idea what form of government without an actual omnipotent God, can keep corrupt evil people from government.)

I hope the Government's evil antics are exposed during the Olympics and I can actually go and visit again without fear of being hunted down by secret police.
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I think they should participate in Olympics since the athletes practiced ALOT. I think it's smarter to debate it after everything is over.
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Terrakinetic wrote:

1.) Chinese imperialism and cruelty in Tibet, nearby islands, etc
2.) Collaborating with shady real estate businesses and stealing the homes of countless villagers.
3.) Collaboration with shady construction companies to create unsafe buildings.
4.) Destroying freedom of speech in all its forms.
4a.) Jailing protesters for the simply saying one word on the street.
4b.) Arresting bloggers.
4c.) Trying to control the internet through restrictions, blocks, and arrests.
4d.) Targeting groups for merely potential threats (ie. capable of rallying support) even if they're just there.
5.) Randomly arresting people for political purposes> Creating secret prisons > Falun Gong organ harvests.
5c.) Yes. They're arresting suspected Falun Gong members for no reason, sending them to jails in a
kangaroo court, and executing them to sell their organs to rich western clients.
6.) Literally attacking foreign countries, not with protestors, but with firebombs and kidnappings when groups
hold programs to investigate China's human right's record.

?.) + So much shit I can't even believe a country like China is even possible.

My parents still remember the insanity from when Mae was still alive and escaping from China, but with the advent of a technological savvy Chinese government I can't even imagine the terror they'll spread. Orwell's 1984 doesn't have shit on China.

If the people of China were allowed given the information we get on the internet daily about political corruption... Well I just hope there'll be a Tiananmen Square where the people get members of the police and military on their side and stage a coup d'etat that purges the corrupt elements from the government. Of course keeping them out is the real problem (No idea what form of government without an actual omnipotent God, can keep corrupt evil people from government.)

I hope the Government's evil antics are exposed during the Olympics and I can actually go and visit again without fear of being hunted down by secret police.


You are one of those people who are brainwashed by the anti-Chinese.

Almost none of your points are true. Do some research before you start using them as points.
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Well... that kinda sucks, 4 years and it finally comes and now diasters are happening like SiChuan Earthquake and now this.
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geeene_16 wrote:

The Olympic boycott isn't really about only Tibet. It's actually about how the Chinese government is currently supporting the Sudanese government with the 21ist century genocide in Darfur, Sudan. China is considered to be the number one benefactor of Sudan's oil, and they basically invest big money to research and "arms" in Sudan. THAT is the cause, not because of Tibet. Celebrities, and Olympic athletes backed out because of this. The issue about Tibet has long died out. And Tibet just manipulated this event and pursued to let the world know of China's cruelty to it for the past half century,Let's face it, Tibet will never be free, the only possible thing China could give them is autocracy. And I doubt that people would really boycott the Olympics, there's a lot at stake if that happens. (T.T")


is that really true about china supporting the genocide of darfur,sudan??
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blaze1 wrote:


geeene_16 wrote:

The Olympic boycott isn't really about only Tibet. It's actually about how the Chinese government is currently supporting the Sudanese government with the 21ist century genocide in Darfur, Sudan. China is considered to be the number one benefactor of Sudan's oil, and they basically invest big money to research and "arms" in Sudan. THAT is the cause, not because of Tibet. Celebrities, and Olympic athletes backed out because of this. The issue about Tibet has long died out. And Tibet just manipulated this event and pursued to let the world know of China's cruelty to it for the past half century,Let's face it, Tibet will never be free, the only possible thing China could give them is autocracy. And I doubt that people would really boycott the Olympics, there's a lot at stake if that happens. (T.T")


is that really true about china supporting the genocide of darfur,sudan??


The world will support the Olympics because eveyone will make a ton of money and that is the end of it. Money rules the world, not principles.
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Shinjy wrote:

fucking racist thread starter!
at least China didnt invade a country for oil and caused a total mess there! see America for details!


Oi, missed your post, which would be a shame because that may be the stupidest thing anyone has ever said about anything ever. Thank you for your excellent and well thought out post.
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SortedeVaras wrote:


blaze1 wrote:


geeene_16 wrote:

The Olympic boycott isn't really about only Tibet. It's actually about how the Chinese government is currently supporting the Sudanese government with the 21ist century genocide in Darfur, Sudan. China is considered to be the number one benefactor of Sudan's oil, and they basically invest big money to research and "arms" in Sudan. THAT is the cause, not because of Tibet. Celebrities, and Olympic athletes backed out because of this. The issue about Tibet has long died out. And Tibet just manipulated this event and pursued to let the world know of China's cruelty to it for the past half century,Let's face it, Tibet will never be free, the only possible thing China could give them is autocracy. And I doubt that people would really boycott the Olympics, there's a lot at stake if that happens. (T.T")


is that really true about china supporting the genocide of darfur,sudan??


The world will support the Olympics because eveyone will make a ton of money and that is the end of it. Money rules the world, not principles.


that didnt answer my question..
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Does this?

http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article25047

http://www.qantara.de/webcom/show_article.php/_c-476/_nr-740/_p-1/i.html?PHPSESSID=5

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blaze1 wrote:


SortedeVaras wrote:


blaze1 wrote:


geeene_16 wrote:

The Olympic boycott isn't really about only Tibet. It's actually about how the Chinese government is currently supporting the Sudanese government with the 21ist century genocide in Darfur, Sudan. China is considered to be the number one benefactor of Sudan's oil, and they basically invest big money to research and "arms" in Sudan. THAT is the cause, not because of Tibet. Celebrities, and Olympic athletes backed out because of this. The issue about Tibet has long died out. And Tibet just manipulated this event and pursued to let the world know of China's cruelty to it for the past half century,Let's face it, Tibet will never be free, the only possible thing China could give them is autocracy. And I doubt that people would really boycott the Olympics, there's a lot at stake if that happens. (T.T")


is that really true about china supporting the genocide of darfur,sudan??


The world will support the Olympics because eveyone will make a ton of money and that is the end of it. Money rules the world, not principles.


that didnt answer my question..


Yes its true that impropositionally that China is actually supporting the Arab genocidal antics against the African Arabs.China is mainly there for economical interests such as what geene16 eluded to oil.As long as the genocide doesnt pervade any distractions from their economic set up the Chinese wont stop the support.
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Terrakinetic wrote:

1.) Chinese imperialism and cruelty in Tibet, nearby islands, etc
2.) Collaborating with shady real estate businesses and stealing the homes of countless villagers.
3.) Collaboration with shady construction companies to create unsafe buildings.
4.) Destroying freedom of speech in all its forms.
4a.) Jailing protesters for the simply saying one word on the street.
4b.) Arresting bloggers.
4c.) Trying to control the internet through restrictions, blocks, and arrests.
4d.) Targeting groups for merely potential threats (ie. capable of rallying support) even if they're just there.
5.) Randomly arresting people for political purposes> Creating secret prisons > Falun Gong organ harvests.
5c.) Yes. They're arresting suspected Falun Gong members for no reason, sending them to jails in a
kangaroo court, and executing them to sell their organs to rich western clients.
6.) Literally attacking foreign countries, not with protestors, but with firebombs and kidnappings when groups
hold programs to investigate China's human right's record.

?.) + So much shit I can't even believe a country like China is even possible.

My parents still remember the insanity from when Mae was still alive and escaping from China, but with the advent of a technological savvy Chinese government I can't even imagine the terror they'll spread. Orwell's 1984 doesn't have shit on China.

If the people of China were allowed given the information we get on the internet daily about political corruption... Well I just hope there'll be a Tiananmen Square where the people get members of the police and military on their side and stage a coup d'etat that purges the corrupt elements from the government. Of course keeping them out is the real problem (No idea what form of government without an actual omnipotent God, can keep corrupt evil people from government.)

I hope the Government's evil antics are exposed during the Olympics and I can actually go and visit again without fear of being hunted down by secret police.


You do realize that America is a tribulation to Imperialism.Capitalistic societies all pertain from who is making what?.Which confers to money.Thats what America is about.Corruptional ,scandlous, incredulous ,mindless behaviour.Look at the Health Insurance policies call a public out cry XD hundreds of thousands a year are dying because they cant afford Health insurance.They are also private hospitals in remote areas only accessable to rich allowing more people to suffer.I hate Capitalism and Americanism.The whole protrusion behind this is the Republicans inquiring in shady businesses and corruptional borrowing, and contractual agreements which prelude to congressmen getting paid millions a year to shut their trap.China is beyond fucked but America is no way better in some instances.Blitant Communism or Imperialistic corruption hmm both aren't very appealing.These two countries are the richest and world im scared.<_<.We also have societal proclammaties of of the ill-usage of social services allowing more people with mental illnesses, as well as people with learning or discrete disabilities to suffer.Unless its allianced with the Bush government who greatly pays to social reforities who align themselves with his beliefs.America is a Hoax.Democrats save the world from this operable destruction.
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blaze1 wrote:


geeene_16 wrote:

The Olympic boycott isn't really about only Tibet. It's actually about how the Chinese government is currently supporting the Sudanese government with the 21ist century genocide in Darfur, Sudan. China is considered to be the number one benefactor of Sudan's oil, and they basically invest big money to research and "arms" in Sudan. THAT is the cause, not because of Tibet. Celebrities, and Olympic athletes backed out because of this. The issue about Tibet has long died out. And Tibet just manipulated this event and pursued to let the world know of China's cruelty to it for the past half century,Let's face it, Tibet will never be free, the only possible thing China could give them is autocracy. And I doubt that people would really boycott the Olympics, there's a lot at stake if that happens. (T.T")


is that really true about china supporting the genocide of darfur,sudan??


Well it is speculated that they do. Since Sudan is one of the major producers of China's oil. And China actually funds all types of research and experiments in Sudan. And China did not deny anything. They just said that they were sorry for what was happening..bla bla. -__- You could look up reports about it. There's a lot of them.
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