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Post Reply We are all talking about it. Ren's Death?
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New to this group really so I dunno if all you guys have come to a conclusion (if you can really). But you're all talking about it in regards to Takumi and Hachi's kid, Ren, if he was named after the other Ren because he died. You see I have seen the anime, then I read onwards with the manga. Now I had decided to read all the manga, and I have noticed little things that seem to confirm Ren's possible death.. for example..

(on onemanga.com, Chapter 43, page 45)
Hachi says "You know, Nana... Young girls in love... Still talk of your story, you and Ren's... Whenever they listen to your songs. But I know better. I didn't want to see... such a sad outcome."

and as for the end of the anime, where it was asked when Ren was arriving. Of course now we know Hachi was expecting little Ren for the summer...

So I was wondering what all you guys think? If you's have found other evidence of Ren's death?

( But you never know we might be proved wrong yet =3 )
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It would be better to think that he disappears and that nobody knows his whereabouts. Unlike nana, she left but then someone found her and so her friends realize that she is still alive. Hachi once said that It could be ren who mailed those pictures of nana like santa claus..bla..bla..bla… and also she said, I hope that ren and nana will meet in England and i think she’s not referring to her son but the big ren…. But what about the picture of the wall means???



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I hope thats the case =3 It seems more likely than my other theory lol. It wouldn't make much sense to kill of a big character such as Ren. But it's still a possibilty I guess.. Ya never know, cause he was smoking weed (obviously wouldn't kill him) but at Reira and Shin's birthday party he was handed over a bag of cocaine.. so he could yet move onto bigger things.?
But what do you mean picture of the wall?

Theres another thing that is bothering me too.. misato.. Not her real name as we found out, Chapter 47 page 4 and 5, all the Blast folders and when something about a murder appears on the news, she turns it off? Is she crazy? Lol
Or do I look too much into these things?
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Oh, I was talking of ren’s picture…let say, if both of them disappear why only ren’s picture shown. Does it signify something like he was an important friend of takumi or important member of the band or just memento of him being alive… maybe ren’s disappear without saying goodbye to everyone while nana’s case she left with reason…

About the thing with misato I can’t discuss that coz if we think we nearly in the end then there’s no more reason to pay attention to minor characters...lol… just kidding… we’ll wait what the others think about her….
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I don't think Ren is dead because when Ha chi said she hope Nana and Ren will meet again. How will that happen if Nana is alive and Ren is dead. Unless, she means that she hopes they meet again in heaven.,
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When I remembered that Hachi said something about Ren sending the pictures, it gives me a little hope that he's still alive... because I seriously doubt that Takumi would let little Ren go out to a pub by himself at night like that.

Who knows though, it seems that the two of them both idolized (Ren and Nana) Sid and Nancy as an ideal couple... even though they both kind of went crazy and od'd... so maybe that's some sort of foreshadowing? I hope not.
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unfortunately i hate to say this but i think he's dead, i really!!!!! hope not but Yazawa is giving us so many hints that he might be but then she gives us a couple that he is alive, or possibly just missing.

No. 1 i kinda reread all of Nana and stopped at 60 somthing and what i found was that in around chapter 50 somthing i noticed that wen Narita started givin Ren da cocaine he started acting weird, he was all about killing Nana and joing her and stuff like that(but maybe that was just the drugs talking, but then he also said it numerous times)

2. in chapter 70 on page 17 theres a huge picture of Ren hung on Hachi's wall were her labtop is, now why would that be there hmmm

3. Now in chapter 66 noubo ask hachi were ren is and she tells him he went back to Takumi (NOW we know that he is referring to lil Ren)

4. now in chapter 62 i reread it twice and it doesn't say anything about Ren putting anything in Hachi's mail, and first of all we all know that it was that Reporter/Stalker(kurata) guy who put the photos in Hachi mailbox because in chappie 58 he's at the club were Nana sings at in the future timeskip. ALSO he lies to his boss saying that "Nana from blast is dead i haven't found her" and you see pics of her at the sea and at the club which are the pictures that were sent to room 707

5. then in chapter 74 Naoki says to Takumi "I've been waiting for the day for Trapnests to be REFORMED" so what does this word mean that the old gang is gonna get back together or find replacement for Ren and get trapnest up and running again hmmm this is killing *pouts*

okay so that's some evidence there's probably a hole bunch in Hachi and Nana's Narration but sometimes i don;t pay attention to those stuff. I hope he's not dead because before i was never really into Ren's character that much but now.......I just love him!!!! it's also so cute how well he and Hachi get along its like they play the same role in the relationships their in
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Posted 5/16/08
i forgot the chapter and page of hachi saying that i hope nana and ren will meet in england..

but so far this is what i found...http://www.onemanga.com/Nana/62/15/

and also this one...http://www.onemanga.com/Nana/66/20/
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I think Ren probably ran away and disappeared, just like how Nana ended up.
But I think it's also easy to assume that he might be dead. At least, I think he's dead. Not that I want him dead. =(
In chapter 74, when Reira is thinking back to the time she spent with Ren in England, she seems to be crying. And she says "Ren, say something." I get the feeling that she thinks he's dead.

I don't think you necessarily have to name your kid after somebody who's dead.. If Ren were alive when the child was born, I think Hachi might still name the kid Ren. Recall that Ren is the one who came up with Satsuki and if it were a boy, she said Ren would think of another name. Both Takumi and Hachi are also fond of Ren, so it wouldn't be surprising if they named their kid after him.
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I really think ren died.

cuz all of those hints.
Takumi, Reiria, and everyone... probably already knew that Ren is dead, so that's why they named the little boy, Ren after dead Ren

Plus, I think Nana ran away because she couldn't handle the truth that Ren is dead. She probably hates herself because of what happened to Ren. So She ran away to be alone, away from people so that she doesn't hurt other ppl's feelings especially when she hurted hachi's feeling and nobu's feeling too.. she feels like no one is there for her since Yasu already got his girl..

err yeah
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Posted 5/28/08
remember. the author/artist of Nana.. loves to have some sad ending..
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Posted 5/29/08 , edited 5/29/08
Based on the last chapter's summary (ch75) and the way Ren is just going down the drug addiction path, I think there's really little hope for him. I think he'll probably die. Aside from this, the picture of Ren in Hachi's living room in the future would make much sense if he indeed was dead.
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I know it's really goin on that way but I still hope that he'll just make himself dissappeared and recover from his addiction and eventually show up and staying at his warehouse that eventually Nana will find him there when she return and looking for him as their plan hopefully huh! I just hate to see them both suffered so much from their own stupid pride and dignity and then Ren died without confronting and get to understand each other (too emotional now )
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Posted 10/6/08
well,it happend so...no need to worry about that anymore
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