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No More Uploads from SARS? What happened?
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I think I might know the reason...some fan-subbers want the fans to watch it for free but since CR takes donation and charges for better view, the subbers doesn't like it. They work very hard on subbing for free to all fans while someone else is using it to make money. One of my friends got a note from a subber saying these for my friend to take out the files that she put it up on CR.
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Why don't they allow if on CR?
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There are some fan subbers who - since technically it's illegal to distribute dramas/anime licensed in Japan (thought not in America) - try to limit how much it is spread across the Internet.

Dattebayo ( http://www.dattebayo.com/t/ ) (who does Naruto, Naruto Shippuuden, and Bleach as well as many others) also do not allow their work to be uploaded to streaming sites - such as YouTube. http://www.dattebayo.com/pr/58 See that link for DB's reasonings for not allowing their subs to be uploaded to streaming sites.

It's just their preference. And it might be to cover their butts too... who knows?

Just download the series directly from their website - http://www.sars-fansubs.com/

Out of respect for the people who spend so much time subbing these for us, it's probably best to just comply, and thank them for not stopping their subbing projects all together.
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Posted 5/12/08
i wanna know too, what the heck happened?!
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Posted 5/12/08
what happened? Lets go everyone to watch this to veoh
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Posted 5/13/08

1ofstars wrote:

I think I might know the reason...some fan-subbers want the fans to watch it for free but since CR takes donation and charges for better view, the subbers doesn't like it. They work very hard on subbing for free to all fans while someone else is using it to make money. One of my friends got a note from a subber saying these for my friend to take out the files that she put it up on CR.


For some general FYI:
The donation option on CR has been phased out for quite some time now.
Everything on CR is completely FREE of charge/donation.
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Posted 5/13/08
what a selfish act..
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Posted 5/13/08
So sad. I am looking forward to ep 4.
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Posted 5/13/08

slowdanse wrote:


1ofstars wrote:

I think I might know the reason...some fan-subbers want the fans to watch it for free but since CR takes donation and charges for better view, the subbers doesn't like it. They work very hard on subbing for free to all fans while someone else is using it to make money. One of my friends got a note from a subber saying these for my friend to take out the files that she put it up on CR.


For some general FYI:
The donation option on CR has been phased out for quite some time now.
Everything on CR is completely FREE of charge/donation.


Hey, no offend okay? I'm just saying what my friend told me. These are opinions of some subber team memebers, okay? It was not originally from my mouth. I know that everything CR is FREE even Rated R movies...and I give my appreciation to CR, I really do that's why I'm here.
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1ofstars wrote:

For some general FYI:
The donation option on CR has been phased out for quite some time now.
Everything on CR is completely FREE of charge/donation.


Hey, no offend okay? I'm just saying what my friend told me. These are opinions of some subber team memebers, okay? It was not originally from my mouth. I know that everything CR is FREE even Rated R movies...and I give my appreciation to CR, I really do that's why I'm here.

Don't worry, my post wasn't intentionally supposed to sound rude.
It literally was just some short little fyi because I know a lot of people misinterpret things.
Not to mention I'm sure about 50% of the people on this site still think CR takes donations :p
Posted 5/13/08

glimmer_2 wrote:

There are some fan subbers who - since technically it's illegal to distribute dramas/anime licensed in Japan (thought not in America) - try to limit how much it is spread across the Internet.

Dattebayo ( http://www.dattebayo.com/t/ ) (who does Naruto, Naruto Shippuuden, and Bleach as well as many others) also do not allow their work to be uploaded to streaming sites - such as YouTube. http://www.dattebayo.com/pr/58 See that link for DB's reasonings for not allowing their subs to be uploaded to streaming sites.

It's just their preference. And it might be to cover their butts too... who knows?

Just download the series directly from their website - http://www.sars-fansubs.com/

Out of respect for the people who spend so much time subbing these for us, it's probably best to just comply, and thank them for not stopping their subbing projects all together.


i agree wif u =) my life would be totally ruin if all subbing team stop their subbing projects.. we love them.. lets keep them safe.. all hail LOVE SONG FANSUB..
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@slowdanse: thanks for the info. i didn't even realize that CR doesn't take donations anymore.

going back to the topic:
is it just Zettai Kareshi or are there other dramas that they didn't want to be shown on crunchyroll. Despite of this, I'm still grateful coz I have watched a lot of dramas subbed by the group.
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I agree with Glimmer_2, kyoeyla, and kurotori_83. I'm glad you posted those things.

I hate to see people attack fansubbers over something like this. They don't seem to understand about "biting the hand that feeds you." That hand is feeding ME too, so please don't make us all look ungrateful? I'm not competent to translate a show, and I'm very grateful to the people who give all their time and energy so that we can see and understand them.
I wish there were more I could do to thank them than keep my seeding window open, or donate money. :(
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darklight96 wrote:

here's what i dont get .... does SARS own this series? or just fan sub it? if they only do the fan subbing, then despite what they think they dont own the subs. anyone has the right to post it as they please. for them to call anyone that posts their stuff "jackasses' only shows their own arrogance and pigheadedness.


Anyone has the right to post their OWN fansub of a show. So if you can get a RAW file, translate the dialog yourself, and then encode the subs, I'm sure everyone would be glad to see it posted!
It may not be an exact issue of legal "owning" but that's the etiquette in the fansub community.
CR themselves have a list of fansub groups that don't want to be on CR, and CR requests you NOT upload them. They try to filter new uploads through the list, and go back and pull things down that aren't suppossed to be there.
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darklight96 wrote:

here's what i dont get .... does SARS own this series? or just fan sub it? if they only do the fan subbing, then despite what they think they dont own the subs. anyone has the right to post it as they please. for them to call anyone that posts their stuff "jackasses' only shows their own arrogance and pigheadedness.


Anyone has the right to post their OWN fansub of a show. So if you can get a RAW file, translate the dialog yourself, and then encode the subs, I'm sure everyone would be glad to see it posted!
It may not be an exact issue of legal "owning" but that's the etiquette in the fansub community.
CR themselves have a list of fansub groups that don't want to be on CR, and CR requests you NOT upload them. They try to filter new uploads through the list, and go back and pull things down that aren't suppossed to be there.


Posts like darklight96's really show how people take advantage of the fact that fansubbers are around.
We do not own the series, but we do own the subtitles.

A majority of the time, people contact us to post to CR, and I've gladly allowed that. Recently, a number of random people haven't been doing that for Zettai Kareshi. It doesn't take much time to send an email to the group with a, "Heads up! I want to upload this to CR, is it okay?" It's just proper etiquette in the community.

Some of you do understand our reasoning, which I'm thankful for. But for those that don't get it, here's some of the main reasons:
Although we appreciate that fans want to upload our work to other methods of distribution, we would appreciate it if you would just point people to our site to download through torrent or IRC.

>We're paying for IRC bandwidth, so we want people to use it! It doesn't help us if traffic is driven elsewhere instead of our site.

>Torrents help when people seed and share with the community and our IRC chan is there for fans to chat with one another while downloading.

>I hate to say this, but the quality on CR is awful. It hurts my encoding soul to see 2-3 hours worth of encoding time be reduced to a pixelated flash file. I prefer Veoh's quality over anything else as far as streaming goes.

SARS as a whole has always been on good terms with CR. Some series that we've subbed are still on CR, so we haven't entirely neglected our fans here.

It just saddens me to see how some fans are so quick to flame fansubbers like this. Do you really care about the fansubbers or do you just want your god damn fansubbed dramas no matter what (screw fansubbers)?
SARS is far from being selfish. We are subbing for the fans, we release at a fast rate for the fans, we invest 30+ hours a week collectively to pump out 1 new release of a series... do you still consider us selfish, arrogant, pigheaded?

Please understand our reasoning behind this decision and don't be too quick to flame us based on nothing but hearsay.
When this drama has reached it's half way mark, I'll re-consider the decision of allowing Zettai Kareshi/Absolute Boyfriend back on CR. Until then, please support us in this decision.
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