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How To: Make an AMV
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psyopslayerx wrote:

I find that interesting hmmm..... org is for the better.. i see..


i don't know if it was sarcasm but yes it is true. Org over the tube any day.
The Org is filled with editors that actually will give you an unbiased account of your video unlike the tube where people say "omg best video ever 10/5 +fav" for something that just the episode and music over it <_<.
You would actually learn how to make a proper amv and make it have meaning unlike very ugly random fx videos.
People can still go on the tube, I can't decide what people should do. Though it would be a lot easier to start on the org and work your way up.

yay for ramblings
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DemonWithin912 wrote:


psyopslayerx wrote:

I find that interesting hmmm..... org is for the better.. i see..


i don't know if it was sarcasm but yes it is true. Org over the tube any day.
The Org is filled with editors that actually will give you an unbiased account of your video unlike the tube where people say "omg best video ever 10/5 +fav" for something that just the episode and music over it <_<.
You would actually learn how to make a proper amv and make it have meaning unlike very ugly random fx videos.
People can still go on the tube, I can't decide what people should do. Though it would be a lot easier to start on the org and work your way up.

yay for ramblings


Got a account l can check out or you just starting?
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Thanks!!
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Kr3w wrote:


DemonWithin912 wrote:


psyopslayerx wrote:

I find that interesting hmmm..... org is for the better.. i see..


i don't know if it was sarcasm but yes it is true. Org over the tube any day.
The Org is filled with editors that actually will give you an unbiased account of your video unlike the tube where people say "omg best video ever 10/5 +fav" for something that just the episode and music over it <_<.
You would actually learn how to make a proper amv and make it have meaning unlike very ugly random fx videos.
People can still go on the tube, I can't decide what people should do. Though it would be a lot easier to start on the org and work your way up.

yay for ramblings


Got a account l can check out or you just starting?

yeah i have an account. i'll pm you so that this won't turn into a convo on this thread.
Posted 5/11/08

BasouKazuma wrote:

I'll leave this open and lock the other one, since this is much more informative.


ya I was kinda thinking the same thing after comparing the two......

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thanks for the tip
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This guide aims to teach users how to make their very own AMV.

Essentials/Highly needed
-Windows Movie Maker (the simplest and yet one of the most professional ways to make a video)

Overall, a decent how-to, but there are a few points that I strongly disagree with.
First of all, WMM is not "one of the most professional ways". It's a free program that comes with Windows XP (Vista, too?), and is designed for amateurs with limited knowledge of working with video. It's actually more suited for making slide-shows and montages than anything as complex as an AMV.
There's 2 very specific major reasons:
1) WMM is a single track editor. Unlike some video editors (Sony Vegas, Adobe Premiere, etc.) WMM only has ONE (1) Video Track and ONE (1) Audio Track. This means that it is virtually impossible to do complex overlays, intricate cuts, or other advanced techniques.
2) WMM is a LINEAR editor. This is actually an even bigger problem. Once clips are placed onto the track, it's nearly impossible to alter preceding clips without altering the entire rest of the timeline. Thus, if on a test viewing, you find that a clip is off by a couple of frames, you either have to redo the whole timeline, or make a tremendous effort to resync the entire thing. Thus it's very difficult to make action/dance videos in WMM, and even simpler videos will be difficult to sync perfectly. It also forces you to go in a linear fashion when making the video, rather than blocking out key scenes and then going back and filling in parts you're unsure about later.

Now, WMM is great for an introduction, and for learning the basics. I've used it myself, and I like it BETTER for certain types of videos. But I don't know that I'd call it either the most professional or even simplest way. (Some of the things are very counter-intuitive, esp. if you come to it from other editing programs.)



Windows Movie Maker Introduction

Windows movie maker is a program that ALL computers should have, it can be accessed by going to programs -> accessories -> windows movie maker.

I'm pretty sure it's XP (maybe Vista?) only. It's not on pre-XP Windows, and it's not on Linux or Macs.



Starting your AMV
Okay, how to actually make it, open up windows movie maker, and on the left bar, click "Videos" under "Import. Now you need to find which film you'd like to add, you can add as you like (one by one) to your AMV.

I'd actually suggest that anyone who wants to make an AMV get VirtualDub and the HuffyUV codec. This allows you to open up episodes of an anime and cut and pre-render clips from it. This is advantageous for a couple reasons.
1) You're working with smaller chunks, which means you have to import less footage, which will lower the burden on your RAM/processor, thus speeding things up.
2) You're working with something much closer to an uncompressed file (and hopefully stripped of audio) which, again, lowers burden on your computer. Also, it's good practice if you plan to move on to Adobe programs later, because most codecs give Premiere a hissy-fit.





Tips and Hints
-Keep your AMV at 2-4 minutes
-ALWAYS add music
-Don't add text over videos, it interrupts the video, instead, add text over pictures
-Don't start the music until the title at the start finishes
-Try to time music at the very start of the video
-Do not cut your song short, try to drag on the video/credits until the video is finished, or add something informative like "Letting the song finish" if its just a few more seconds, and you've dragged it on too much.


I have minor quibbles with your tips, but they're stylistic issues, not technical issues so I'll leave most of them alone, but I do disagree with the 2-4 minutes point. Since most songs are 2-4 minutes, it's pretty common, and for the most part isn't even an issue, but I've seen 6, 8, 20, and even 60 minute long AMV's that were quite good. I think more important than either length or formula is that you actually have a video idea (a "plot" if you will) that will sustain the length of the song, rather than forcing the song to fit a certain length.

Anyway, I think this is a good introduction to WMM, and I don't mean to sound like I dislike the guide overall, I just wanted to clarify a couple points that I feel strongly about. I'd love to see a bit more about your views on the more abstract issues of AMV making.
Hoping to see more tutorials from you!
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I agree with a some points with Kohou though I think this thread is for those people who are just doing casual editing and not using avs or vdub or using dvd sources XD.

though those 60 minute videos is like AMV hell
and usually the longer videos are MEP[Multi-Editor Projects] though I have seen a great amv that was 8 minutes long.
Posted 5/16/08
thanks for the tip.
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i've never tried to make one before, maybe now i will
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thesilverballer wrote:

This guide aims to teach users how to make their very own AMV.

Essentials/Highly needed
-Windows Movie Maker (the simplest and yet one of the most professional ways to make a video)
-A computer
-A good taste in music
-A good source in music (limewire, uTorrent, iTunes)
-A theme of your AMV

Windows Movie Maker Introduction

Windows movie maker is a program that ALL computers should have, it can be accessed by going to programs -> accessories -> windows movie maker.

What this does, is allow to you add movies/episodes/films, pictures and music to make an AMV. You insert a video, and you can cut out certain parts of the movie/episode, so that your left with the cool stuff.

You can also individually tweak each part by doing cool things such as slowing them down, speeding them up, rotate, introduction and exit effects (twirls, swirls, from left corner etc.).

Starting your AMV
Okay, how to actually make it, open up windows movie maker, and on the left bar, click "Videos" under "Import. Now you need to find which film you'd like to add, you can add as you like (one by one) to your AMV.

DO NOT worry about music until the very end, as that is your LAST focus.

Now, it will appear at the top of windows movie maker (under imported media), you will then to drag the file, into the timeline below.

There are 3 sections, Video, Audio/Music, and Title Overlay.

Video: Where your video should go, or any other animated film along with non-moving pictures.

Audio/Music: Any music you want to add, drag it here. (your video might already have music, so to prevent clashing, click the episode/part, and go clip at the top, then go to Audio, then click mute. (you need to do this to each part if you cut out certain parts).

Title Overlay: This is where you add your titles, credits, and any other text to appear IN FRONT of your video/picture.

Editing your video
To edit your video, you need to play it by clicking play in the sample video box on the right, and then when you want to cut the video in half(or thirds or what ever) at that point, pause it, to add preciseness, and click "Split" to the right of play/stop. You can then click and drag the left or right of either part, and drag it inwards to delete that part, or, for pictures, you can drag it outward to lengthen how long the pictures stay up.

After you are positive about keeping what you want to keep, and what you don't, play through the movie just to double check.

Title
Now, you can add titles and credits, you add a starting title at the start, by clicking "Titles and credits" and then clicking which you prefer.

Pictures
I personally add a picture relating to the theme, and add the credits over that, so you don't get a default look.

Drag this to the start/end or where ever you want it, and repeat until you have all the text you like.

Music
Now, you can begin to add music, think of a song that relates to the topic, if you have a fast paced intense fighting anime, try using semi-metal/emo, try to avoid too much Linkin Park because it is used on 95% of Animes, it attracts attention because its a good band, but its good to be unique.

Tips and Hints
-Keep your AMV at 2-4 minutes
-ALWAYS add music
-Don't add text over videos, it interrupts the video, instead, add text over pictures
-Don't start the music until the title at the start finishes
-Try to time music at the very start of the video
-Do not cut your song short, try to drag on the video/credits until the video is finished, or add something informative like "Letting the song finish" if its just a few more seconds, and you've dragged it on too much.



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Thank you but i knew how to do it alrdy haha
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Posted 5/16/08

DemonWithin912 wrote:

I agree with a some points with Kohou though I think this thread is for those people who are just doing casual editing and not using avs or vdub or using dvd sources XD.

though those 60 minute videos is like AMV hell
and usually the longer videos are MEP[Multi-Editor Projects] though I have seen a great amv that was 8 minutes long.


Well, yes, many of them are MEP's, and I understand he was making general suggestions, not hard and fast rules, but I still thought the point about plot vs. formula was an important one to make (for more than just timing, really for everything AMV related.)
Still, good to find another person who knows they stuff.
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Kohou wrote:


DemonWithin912 wrote:

I agree with a some points with Kohou though I think this thread is for those people who are just doing casual editing and not using avs or vdub or using dvd sources XD.

though those 60 minute videos is like AMV hell
and usually the longer videos are MEP[Multi-Editor Projects] though I have seen a great amv that was 8 minutes long.


Well, yes, many of them are MEP's, and I understand he was making general suggestions, not hard and fast rules, but I still thought the point about plot vs. formula was an important one to make (for more than just timing, really for everything AMV related.)
Still, good to find another person who knows they stuff.

btw lagarith is a better loseless codec then huffyuv O:
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i use sony vegas movie studios 8.0 idk what id do with out it..windows moviemaker is just to simple..
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