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If God Knows Everything Why Do People Pray for Anything?
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Posted 6/16/09
You see, everyone has a "spiritual meter", kind of like the experience points bar in RPG's. Every time you pray, talk to God, meditate, go to the Church/Mosque/whatever, your spiritual meter goes up. It's like in Pokemon, if you get more experience points, your life gets better: you get stronger, learn new moves to fight atheists and gays. And eventually you evolve and turn divine, or reach nirvana, or something like that.

That`s funny! xD

No seriously: If they are people out there who really think that there is no god they should just say it straight out loud.
That they don`t wanna have anything to do with god, that they don`t believe in him or even his existence, that everything
that involves him doesn`t even exist for them anymore. That god is dead. Like Nietzsche did ...
And then we can speak again.
Posted 6/19/09

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Religion is a load of bollocks. the end!


LOL Nicely said XD
Posted 6/19/09
I don't believe in reigion. I used to think that god controled my every move, every step that I take, every word I say, and every breath I breathe. But I've never asked myself this question. I find that extreamly true, and I find myself falling into the catigory or being an athist. But in some prayres they pray that they could be a better person I guess.
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Posted 6/19/09
God knows everything, indeed. People pray for being loved by God and in order to go to Nirvana.
There's a destiny which is absolute and a destiny which still can be changed by human's hand.
Example.............
Absolute : Human will dead, Sun rise from east, Earth's rotation, etc
Changeable : Your grades would be different if you had studied before test.
Posted 6/19/09
the answer is.. it's only because people are praying for the things they want ... people just pray if they want something in the future or at the present.. example.. i hope i can passed our biggest exam next week.. then you tend to pray for that everyday.. after your exam.. you don't pray.. and if you need again ..you pray again.. it's like that..

but sometimes even God knows what we want.. he would be happier if we pray for him.. praying is not merely for ourselves,,.but for others as well..

nice topic...=0
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Prayers is one way of praising God and talking to Him. It is like going to church everyday. Praying and going to church are part of our obligations to Him as His sons/daughters.

It is like a parent and child situation. Parents know that their child is sad or having some problems (they know that most of the time), but still they wait for their son to confess and ask for help.

That is how God to us. He knows everything including what we need, but He still waits for us to come into Him.
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Like all other religion topics, I don't believe most people have seen the whole picture.

In the quoted James 5:16, one keyword that was overlooked by the OP was "righteous person". I didn't know this before until recently but I remember my dad told me about a story in the bible where it mentioned that God won't listen to some people's prayers directly because of their own nature but will listen to said prophet in the story and all the prayers the said prophet is praying for other people. This explains why Catholics converse/pray with the saints so to make sure that the saints will send their prayers to God.

Another misconception with the OP is the fact that God works outside of time and space, or at least the fact that God doesn't work on the same linear time and space as his creations do. An example of this was when Jesus gave his body and blood (the Eucharist) at the Last Supper. According to Catholics, the Mass of the Eucharist wasn't instituted until after Jesus died on the cross. So in the perspective of the linear time, it doesn't make sense. (In fact this brief example probably doesn't make sense to a lot of people but I didn't feel like getting too in depth, just pm me if you really care to hear the details).

So in conclusion, it doesn't matter how your prayer gets to God so long as a righteous person is involved (Jesus doesn't count because he's God), and (for the most part) the time you made your prayer doesn't matter either.
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If "god" already knew what will you pray about and it's up to him if he'll grant it or not, then why pray? Can't we just not pray and let anything he wants to happen since he already knew what we'll wish for? This "god" is really bitchy since he is made by man.
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Posted 7/5/09
^ omg! ur from the philipines and ur not religious! dats rare!
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Posted 7/5/09

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^ omg! ur from the philipines and ur not religious! dats rare!


I've encountered many from The Philippines and mostly they've been forced by parents to believe in Catholics.
And deep inside they don't believe it.

Yeah, I'm not from Philippines
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Posted 7/5/09
^ dats wot i call fucked up parenting!
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Posted 7/6/09
Because they want something usually.
Posted 4/17/10

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digs wrote:

God knows everything, but the Bible also says to ask God for the desires of our heart. God knows that we will pray for things, and He will give them to us according to His will God is not changing His will in the present when we ask, because He knew everything from before we were even alive. Just because we ask, doesn't mean we will get it. James 4:3- When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures. Rom 8:5 Those who live according to the sinful nature have their minds set on what that nature desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. God hears the prayers of His Children. He wants us to have faith and to pray so the Holy Spirit can work. True God is all knowing, but prayer shows devotion and love to God, we shouldn't only pray for our desires, but for others things as well (like praising God and praying for others)

Btw to the 2nd poster, what do you mean by prophet? Do you mean Jesus? Jesus was not a prophet, Jesus was the Messiah, the Son of God.

God knows what you want so when you pray for things your wasting your time. BTW Dig maybe you should know that prayer has no effect, or at least all studies I have seen suggest this.


I don't think it's a waste of time. I think Digs is right. Besides, it also fosters humilty within us to ask and strengthens our relationship with God. A relationship is a two way street and you have to communicate. Besides, it does help when you talk about your problems to God, thank Him for good things He's done for you, ask for strength to get through things difficult things. Out of curiosity, what studies? The only study I've read about had to do with prayer and hospitalizations, saying that prayer indeed helped, but the mechanism was unknown. But I'm interested what other studies you might know about.
Posted 4/17/10

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I don't believe in reigion. I used to think that god controled my every move, every step that I take, every word I say, and every breath I breathe. But I've never asked myself this question. I find that extreamly true, and I find myself falling into the catigory or being an athist. But in some prayres they pray that they could be a better person I guess.


Controlled your every action or knew it? As a Christian myself, I was curious b/c that's a rather stifling feeling if you thought God controlled everything you did. I remember one time when I was going through a tough time with Christianity I thought, there's no point. Everything is planned out anyway. Then I realized, I am the one who makes decisions and just because God knows about what I will choose and is in control/oversees everything, it's like one of those books where if the main character chooses path a or b, the outcome of the book will be different, but the author of the book wrote out every possibility, therefore knows the ending no matter which path you choose. So my choices do make a difference. I guess I'm just curious about what you thought.

As to prayer, there are a lot of things you can pray about. I sometimes just like to talk out difficult situations or ask for strength to get through tough times, or ask for God to watch over people I care about, or thank him for blessing me or, as you said, ask for help to be a better person.
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Posted 4/17/10 , edited 4/17/10

momofleur wrote:


YouAreDumb wrote:


digs wrote:

God knows everything, but the Bible also says to ask God for the desires of our heart. God knows that we will pray for things, and He will give them to us according to His will God is not changing His will in the present when we ask, because He knew everything from before we were even alive. Just because we ask, doesn't mean we will get it. James 4:3- When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures. Rom 8:5 Those who live according to the sinful nature have their minds set on what that nature desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. God hears the prayers of His Children. He wants us to have faith and to pray so the Holy Spirit can work. True God is all knowing, but prayer shows devotion and love to God, we shouldn't only pray for our desires, but for others things as well (like praising God and praying for others)

Btw to the 2nd poster, what do you mean by prophet? Do you mean Jesus? Jesus was not a prophet, Jesus was the Messiah, the Son of God.

God knows what you want so when you pray for things your wasting your time. BTW Dig maybe you should know that prayer has no effect, or at least all studies I have seen suggest this.


I don't think it's a waste of time. I think Digs is right. Besides, it also fosters humilty within us to ask and strengthens our relationship with God. A relationship is a two way street and you have to communicate. Besides, it does help when you talk about your problems to God, thank Him for good things He's done for you, ask for strength to get through things difficult things. Out of curiosity, what studies? The only study I've read about had to do with prayer and hospitalizations, saying that prayer indeed helped, but the mechanism was unknown. But I'm interested what other studies you might know about.


Humility my arss. show the evidence for that!

Yep prey for good grades in school.. Then I laugh at you wen you fail. All that is needed is hard work. All preying does is give the person a sense of false security without effort. Also all studies I come across have shows preying does nothing. (or harmful)
But then what do you expect wen people are still being brain washed into primitive barbaric bronze age cults. 'religion's still fail to show any evidence of religion making life better for people in any way.
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