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it boils down to politics in general is racist because politics was set up by the rich the part system was set up by the rich, and so was the electorial colledge, this country was founded by rich men and they made sure the laws protect the rich more than the poor, so i guess you could call that racist, i have never met a poor man yet that made it into the white house or congress, and really made a differance for the regular people in the usa,

as long as the rich are in congress and the white house, this country will never help the less fortunate, unless your another country and then yes the usa will give you money

just like this whole 700 billion bail out, why give it to corparations?????
why not use that money and give every person that hold a mortgage,(only one house,not investors)enough money to pay thier mortgage for atleast one mabey two years so they can get back on their feet

not only would it help the common person, but the money would go to banks and mortgage companies and they would not go bankrupt and ask the goverment for the bail out, and then they would pay taxes on the money so it comes back around in the long run, but at least that would help stop all these forclosures, and help people get back on their feet,

but i guess i must be crazy to think the goverment that is suposed to help us when the time is needed,
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How McCain criticise Obama is insanely crazy and put Obama life at risk. Only an idiot like him will vote for McCain
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Posted 10/25/08

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it boils down to politics in general is racist because politics was set up by the rich the part system was set up by the rich, and so was the electorial colledge, this country was founded by rich men and they made sure the laws protect the rich more than the poor, so i guess you could call that racist, i have never met a poor man yet that made it into the white house or congress, and really made a differance for the regular people in the usa,

as long as the rich are in congress and the white house, this country will never help the less fortunate, unless your another country and then yes the usa will give you money

just like this whole 700 billion bail out, why give it to corparations?????
why not use that money and give every person that hold a mortgage,(only one house,not investors)enough money to pay thier mortgage for atleast one mabey two years so they can get back on their feet

not only would it help the common person, but the money would go to banks and mortgage companies and they would not go bankrupt and ask the goverment for the bail out, and then they would pay taxes on the money so it comes back around in the long run, but at least that would help stop all these forclosures, and help people get back on their feet,

but i guess i must be crazy to think the goverment that is suposed to help us when the time is needed,


it would make since to use this money to help out the individual but the problem with that is the people themselves dont make since... if people were to receive this money they would probably just spend it on nonsense instead of on their bills any ways...
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mudduck454 wrote:

it boils down to politics in general is racist because politics was set up by the rich the part system was set up by the rich, and so was the electorial colledge, this country was founded by rich men and they made sure the laws protect the rich more than the poor, so i guess you could call that racist, i have never met a poor man yet that made it into the white house or congress, and really made a differance for the regular people in the usa,

as long as the rich are in congress and the white house, this country will never help the less fortunate, unless your another country and then yes the usa will give you money

just like this whole 700 billion bail out, why give it to corparations?????
why not use that money and give every person that hold a mortgage,(only one house,not investors)enough money to pay thier mortgage for atleast one mabey two years so they can get back on their feet

not only would it help the common person, but the money would go to banks and mortgage companies and they would not go bankrupt and ask the goverment for the bail out, and then they would pay taxes on the money so it comes back around in the long run, but at least that would help stop all these forclosures, and help people get back on their feet,

but i guess i must be crazy to think the goverment that is suposed to help us when the time is needed,


it would make since to use this money to help out the individual but the problem with that is the people themselves dont make since... if people were to receive this money they would probably just spend it on nonsense instead of on their bills any ways...


you know i thought of the same thing, so instead of money in the form of a check, the government could send a voucher to each person who has a mortgage, or lease agreement, and the voucher can only be redeemed by your mortgage company for the amount of time specified on it, so you would mail it to your mortgage company and they would send the voucher along a copy of the payment scedual of your mortgage, to the government, and they would send the money to them instead of the induvidual person,


it can be done, and it would help stimulate the economy, but unfortunatly the government will not help the people who pay into the system, they just want to help the rich corporations, but thats politics,

and i do believe taxes need to be raised for a short time in order to get us out of debt, and if we stop giving the UN 9 billion a year then we would be able to pay back our debts to other countries pretty fast, but again politics wont let that happen
Posted 10/25/08
The only media we can truly trust is BET.
Posted 10/25/08

mudduck454 wrote:


99popo99 wrote:


mudduck454 wrote:

it boils down to politics in general is racist because politics was set up by the rich the part system was set up by the rich, and so was the electorial colledge, this country was founded by rich men and they made sure the laws protect the rich more than the poor, so i guess you could call that racist, i have never met a poor man yet that made it into the white house or congress, and really made a differance for the regular people in the usa,

as long as the rich are in congress and the white house, this country will never help the less fortunate, unless your another country and then yes the usa will give you money

just like this whole 700 billion bail out, why give it to corparations?????
why not use that money and give every person that hold a mortgage,(only one house,not investors)enough money to pay thier mortgage for atleast one mabey two years so they can get back on their feet

not only would it help the common person, but the money would go to banks and mortgage companies and they would not go bankrupt and ask the goverment for the bail out, and then they would pay taxes on the money so it comes back around in the long run, but at least that would help stop all these forclosures, and help people get back on their feet,

but i guess i must be crazy to think the goverment that is suposed to help us when the time is needed,


it would make since to use this money to help out the individual but the problem with that is the people themselves dont make since... if people were to receive this money they would probably just spend it on nonsense instead of on their bills any ways...


you know i thought of the same thing, so instead of money in the form of a check, the government could send a voucher to each person who has a mortgage, or lease agreement, and the voucher can only be redeemed by your mortgage company for the amount of time specified on it, so you would mail it to your mortgage company and they would send the voucher along a copy of the payment scedual of your mortgage, to the government, and they would send the money to them instead of the induvidual person,


it can be done, and it would help stimulate the economy, but unfortunatly the government will not help the people who pay into the system, they just want to help the rich corporations, but thats politics,

and i do believe taxes need to be raised for a short time in order to get us out of debt, and if we stop giving the UN 9 billion a year then we would be able to pay back our debts to other countries pretty fast, but again politics wont let that happen


lol it always sounds that simple in theory and i truly agree with you but im a realist and the reality is that americans as a whole have a very high standard of living and as soon as they pay some of their mortgages they will be seeking a loan for extensions on their houses or a newer car etc. and then the cycle would only continue.... although it sounds stupid its the safest way to use the money.... if these companies were to fail you can say bye to student loans house mortgages etc... lending is one of the ways our country has been able to advance as far as it has today if we let them fail then nobody would ever want to lend again
Posted 10/25/08

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The only media we can truly trust is BET.


lol its never good to trust one single source so it should be more like bet and southpark lolz
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KinkyHamster wrote:

The only media we can truly trust is BET.


lol its never good to trust one single source so it should be more like bet and southpark lolz


believe half of what you see, and nothing you hear, especally if it comes from the media, they only tell you what they want you to know
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The best post ever........ FROM BIG J GANGSTA!!!!! DAMN!


Poll: Racial views steer some white Dems away from Obama
By RON FOURNIER and TREVOR TOMPSON, Associated Press Writers

WASHINGTON (AP) — Deep-seated racial misgivings could cost Barack Obama the White House if the election is close, according to an AP-Yahoo News poll that found one-third of white Democrats harbor negative views toward blacks — many calling them "lazy," "violent," responsible for their own troubles.

The poll, conducted with Stanford University, suggests that the percentage of voters who may turn away from Obama because of his race could easily be larger than the final difference between the candidates in 2004 — about two and one-half percentage points.

Certainly, Republican John McCain has his own obstacles: He's an ally of an unpopular president and would be the nation's oldest first-term president. But Obama faces this: 40 percent of all white Americans hold at least a partly negative view toward blacks, and that includes many Democrats and independents.



More than a third of all white Democrats and independents — voters Obama can't win the White House without — agreed with at least one negative adjective about blacks, according to the survey, and they are significantly less likely to vote for Obama than those who don't have such views.

Such numbers are a harsh dose of reality in a campaign for the history books. Obama, the first black candidate with a serious shot at the presidency, accepted the Democratic nomination on the 45th anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.'s "I Have a Dream" speech, a seminal moment for a nation that enshrined slavery in its Constitution.

"There are a lot fewer bigots than there were 50 years ago, but that doesn't mean there's only a few bigots," said Stanford political scientist Paul Sniderman who helped analyze the exhaustive survey.

The pollsters set out to determine why Obama is locked in a close race with McCain even as the political landscape seems to favor Democrats. President Bush's unpopularity, the Iraq war and a national sense of economic hard times cut against GOP candidates, as does that fact that Democratic voters outnumber Republicans.

The findings suggest that Obama's problem is close to home — among his fellow Democrats, particularly non-Hispanic white voters. Just seven in 10 people who call themselves Democrats support Obama, compared to the 85 percent of self-identified Republicans who back McCain.

The survey also focused on the racial attitudes of independent voters because they are likely to decide the election.

Lots of Republicans harbor prejudices, too, but the survey found they weren't voting against Obama because of his race. Most Republicans wouldn't vote for any Democrat for president — white, black or brown.

Not all whites are prejudiced. Indeed, more whites say good things about blacks than say bad things, the poll shows. And many whites who see blacks in a negative light are still willing or even eager to vote for Obama.

On the other side of the racial question, the Illinois Democrat is drawing almost unanimous support from blacks, the poll shows, though that probably wouldn't be enough to counter the negative effect of some whites' views.

Race is not the biggest factor driving Democrats and independents away from Obama. Doubts about his competency loom even larger, the poll indicates. More than a quarter of all Democrats expressed doubt that Obama can bring about the change they want, and they are likely to vote against him because of that.

Three in 10 of those Democrats who don't trust Obama's change-making credentials say they plan to vote for McCain.

Still, the effects of whites' racial views are apparent in the polling.

Statistical models derived from the poll suggest that Obama's support would be as much as 6 percentage points higher if there were no white racial prejudice.

But in an election without precedent, it's hard to know if such models take into account all the possible factors at play.

The AP-Yahoo News poll used the unique methodology of Knowledge Networks, a Menlo Park, Calif., firm that interviews people online after randomly selecting and screening them over telephone. Numerous studies have shown that people are more likely to report embarrassing behavior and unpopular opinions when answering questions on a computer rather than talking to a stranger.

Other techniques used in the poll included recording people's responses to black or white faces flashed on a computer screen, asking participants to rate how well certain adjectives apply to blacks, measuring whether people believe blacks' troubles are their own fault, and simply asking people how much they like or dislike blacks.

"We still don't like black people," said John Clouse, 57, reflecting the sentiments of his pals gathered at a coffee shop in Somerset, Ohio.

Given a choice of several positive and negative adjectives that might describe blacks, 20 percent of all whites said the word "violent" strongly applied. Among other words, 22 percent agreed with "boastful," 29 percent "complaining," 13 percent "lazy" and 11 percent "irresponsible." When asked about positive adjectives, whites were more likely to stay on the fence than give a strongly positive assessment.

Among white Democrats, one third cited a negative adjective and, of those, 58 percent said they planned to back Obama.

The poll sought to measure latent prejudices among whites by asking about factors contributing to the state of black America. One finding: More than a quarter of white Democrats agree that "if blacks would only try harder, they could be just as well off as whites."

Those who agreed with that statement were much less likely to back Obama than those who didn't.

Among white independents, racial stereotyping is not uncommon. For example, while about 20 percent of independent voters called blacks "intelligent" or "smart," more than one third latched on the adjective "complaining" and 24 percent said blacks were "violent."

Nearly four in 10 white independents agreed that blacks would be better off if they "try harder."

The survey broke ground by incorporating images of black and white faces to measure implicit racial attitudes, or prejudices that are so deeply rooted that people may not realize they have them. That test suggested the incidence of racial prejudice is even higher, with more than half of whites revealing more negative feelings toward blacks than whites.

Researchers used mathematical modeling to sort out the relative impact of a huge swath of variables that might have an impact on people's votes — including race, ideology, party identification, the hunger for change and the sentiments of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's backers.

Just 59 percent of her white Democratic supporters said they wanted Obama to be president. Nearly 17 percent of Clinton's white backers plan to vote for McCain.

Among white Democrats, Clinton supporters were nearly twice as likely as Obama backers to say at least one negative adjective described blacks well, a finding that suggests many of her supporters in the primaries — particularly whites with high school education or less — were motivated in part by racial attitudes.

The survey of 2,227 adults was conducted Aug. 27 to Sept. 5. It has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 2.1 percentage points.

http://news.yahoo.com/page/election-2008-political-pulse-obama-race;_ylt=Ah8NjszinBxTGjPrW8TK3StsnwcF ”

Now you ask, why did I put this article up? Especially since the point of this article has always been obvious in the beginning in terms of how "racism" could be placed into effect on this Presidential race. Well, because the truth of the matter is...........the people that use this criteria ARE NOT REALLY RACIST, but merely mis-informed, mis-guided, ignorant bigots (still sounds like a racist, BUT NOT REALLY).

I still haven't even answered my own question......why did I put this article up? The reason is because the concept that this article is describing is basically the SHIT that I'm seeing all over this thread in terms of how they weigh the differences between Obama & McCain. A nice percentage of you all have legitimate arguments in terms of why your choose each candidate, but for the McCain supporters in here.......I can smell some signs of bullshit behind the legit information. Especially from my non-whites in here, the asians in particular, I'm amazed @ how your setting the same example as the white folk in this article in terms of putting McCain over Obama. Amazing, ain't it?

Now I'll just let this question (or questions depending how much I spew from my brain the moment after I type this statement) out there for all of you McCain supporters that actually follow the criteria stated in the article or somewhat have the same beliefs as the people described in the article............

Why would you put ethnic background or the stereotype of the specific ethnic background as one of your primary criteria for your vote in this election? Furthermore as an optional addition to this question, what makes you think Obama would give power to the "stereotypical black man" when he becomes president?
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^^you're not giving me any prpz for bringing this up in the other thread............*face palms*, I'm disgusted @ you, raja
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well before a debate mccain said "we'll whip obama at the nect debate"now do u see what he could be making a connection to?
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well before a debate mccain said "we'll whip obama at the nect debate"now do u see what he could be making a connection to?


Now that's just trying to find everything someone says and relate it to something racist.
A lot of people use that term, and all because McCain is white & a republican, that does not mean that every term he uses can relate back to racist terms.

Fail.
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draw160 wrote:

well before a debate mccain said "we'll whip obama at the nect debate"now do u see what he could be making a connection to?


Now that's just trying to find everything someone says and relate it to something racist.
A lot of people use that term, and all because McCain is white & a republican, that does not mean that every term he uses can relate back to racist terms.

Fail.


...okay smart one how about u realize i was simply saying it doesnt look good to say you'll "whip" a black man
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draw160 wrote:


Celestral wrote:


draw160 wrote:

well before a debate mccain said "we'll whip obama at the nect debate"now do u see what he could be making a connection to?


Now that's just trying to find everything someone says and relate it to something racist.
A lot of people use that term, and all because McCain is white & a republican, that does not mean that every term he uses can relate back to racist terms.

Fail.


...okay smart one how about u realize i was simply saying it doesnt look good to say you'll "whip" a black man


And that's just being fucking stereotypical and thinking along the lines of racist all because McCain is white & Obama is black.

Even though you're not insulting someone of a different race, that is still considered a "segregated" & "racist" way of thinking because you're not thinking of them as equals because one is white and the other is black.

So stop trolling and trying to find a simple phrase that someone says in a campaign that is meant to be taken light-hearted and be ignorant and turn it around to be bad.

This is what makes me so pissed about this election. Everyone is being ignorant and finding every excuse for them to be racist.
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