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Global Warming
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Do you think its as dire as the Inconvenient Truth says? Are you a skeptic? Is The Kyoto Accord the way to go, or Carbon Tax? What technology should human-kind adopt, solar, wind? How about Ethanol or bio-diesel? Would you rather bike or use public transit rather than drive? Is fixing the planet a federal responsibility or the average citizen?

I'm just trying to stimulate a discussion with possible questions on this broad topic.
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I beleive its every ones responcibility,because every one lives on the same planet and are going through similar lives. But its still the same planet, the same solar system, the same sky, we share the same air, and water te dinos did so yes i beilive we all should do something to help out.
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The convenient truth should have been done 10 years ago. The US is a moron about using corn ethanol instead of sugar cane ethanol like Brazil we should all be concerned about this and take precautions instead of regretting to have ignored this problem, but the US is not giving the best example, not only does not care (the gov of course) the politicians make it seem as a controversy and on top of it all this country waste resources like crazy. Sometimes I want to throw up. I would love to write more about this but I'm tired and have a Bio test tomorrow so instead here is some media.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=522784499045867811&hl=en-CA
http://www.researchchannel.org/asx/uw_sf_chartic_250k.asx
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1851792711442224485
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7693071088956342241
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1255835354059566866
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For my little part, I take the bus to get around and don't drive as much as I used to. I also try to use natural lighting as oppsed to wasting electricity.

In the next 30 years with the rise of China, the number of coal plants in asia will skyrocket and they may even supplant the US as the worlds worst polluters.
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Documentary on alternative fuels:
http://www.freedomfuels.info/

Excellent blog on climate change:
http://www.realclimate.org/

Solar is the way to go, but its just not all that practical...yet. Whats the state of nuclear power?
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*looks at thermometre outside at -30 degrees*
>_> global what?


really though, it's a bit late to finally come to the realisation that our planet is being destroyed. Ill agree with Mauz, the movie should have been done earlier.
It's great that people are finally listening though.

There are some good things being done for the environnement.
In my town recycling is mandatory! We have to seperate wet from dry and have them seperated when we put them out for the garbage men. If they aren't seperated they don't pick it up.
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"Yea bad predictions make people not believe in Global warming as well."

Correction: corrupt politicians and the stupid news media are the ones confusing people, show me good scientists debating this and I'll believe you...oh wait scientists are not debating this.....what could be the reason?.......maybe more than 50 years of research, maybe the fact that animals and plants are already changing their behavior, maybe the tons of data from oceanographers....should I keep going?
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Yeah people who think global warming is a myth must live in a cave or something. Either that or they're poor victims of the conservative media. (United States)

And the scientists who deny global warming, yeah. They're pockets are being lined by somebody, cause it's so obvious. I live on Long Island, and being realistic I'm afraid it won't be here soon. Soon being, me having a house here when I'm like 40.

My fiance is part of the Sierra Project, and she's getting into a lot of global warming movements. Trying to get the word out to people about how serious the problem is. I'm proud of her, ya know. At least she's trying.

Terrible thing is, our generations are the ones that are truly the most aware of the problem. Cause we're the ones that will have to live with the consequences! Unfortunately, the people who run things now are the ones that have to take action, and I don't see it happening.

Everyones invited to come to my submarine party! Tell me where your houseboat is and I'll pick you up!! Cause living on land will be a fantasy in the 22nd century.
Posted 2/7/07
Has anyone read Michael Chrichton's State of Fear? He presents some interesting views on the global warming debate, how it's basically just used to scare people. As well as scientific research that does debate the claims of the global warming theories. Just thought I'd throw that out there, maybe just for mauz to say that there is debate in the scientific community... Can't be bothered to look up the actual info myself since I'm not really interested in this topic.
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Thanks Cordivine, but is hard to trust this guy when your logic teacher presents his statements on a lecture about informal logical fallacies
http://www.pewclimate.org/state_of_fear.cfm

Many of Crichton's publicly expressed views, particularly on subjects like the global warming controversy, have caused heated debate. An example is meteorologist Jeffrey Masters' review of State of Fear:

"Flawed or misleading presentations of Global Warming science exist in the book, including those on Arctic sea ice thinning, correction of land-based temperature measurements for the urban heat island effect, and satellite vs. ground-based measurements of Earth's warming. I will spare the reader additional details. On the positive side, Crichton does emphasize the little-appreciated fact that while most of the world has been warming the past few decades, most of Antarctica has seen a cooling trend. The Antarctic ice sheet is actually expected to increase in mass over the next 100 years due to increased precipitation, according to the IPCC. Additionally, Crichton points out that there has been no rise in hurricane activity in the Atlantic over the past few decades (a point unchanged by the record four hurricanes that struck Florida in 2004)."

However, 28 hurricanes and tropical storms took place in the 2005 season, which was 7 more than the meteorologists had names for because historically, 21 names seemed far above what was needed for a season. In addition, Peter Doran, author of the paper in the January 2002 issue of Nature which reported the finding referred to above, that some areas of Antarctica had cooled between 1986 and 2000, wrote an opinion piece in the July 27, 2006 New York Times in which he stated "Our results have been misused as 'evidence' against global warming by Michael Crichton in his novel State of Fear".

Crichton has also been criticized for having the protagonist of State of Fear assert,

"Since the ban of DDT, two million people a year have died unnecessarily from malaria, mostly children. The ban has caused more than fifty million needless deaths. Banning DDT killed more people than Hitler."

Even though the DDT ban specifically exempts any and all use for disease prevention from any regulation, and even though the total number of deaths from malaria worldwide in the period described is actually less than fifty million. None of it is true. USAID, the World Bank, and WHO, all fund DDT for malaria prevention.
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hmmm Ethanol seems like a pretty good source of energy. It seems that the world is a bit late on reacting to the global heating crisis. Or I should say the governments. Simply this is another display of human survival. I heard from a reliable source 2years go a company was divising, for a soap powered engine. At this poin it seem speculated but it not so likely. I`m sick of stressing that if global warming is effective, our generations to come will face a global winter. I mean people the earth will be destroyed regardless. Even if we were able to evolve the sun will change into a "Red Giant" destroying earth existence. But at the present time countries such as north korea (no offense), iraqi (jihads) and other parties, wished to use nuclear force. "Get with the times fools its all about bilogical warfare". OH YEA that just dawned on me. Why the hell would the US government continously look for nuclear weapons, when their is no proof. What they should be searching for his bio weaponry, since theirs evidence such as anthrax by terrorist.

^^disregard most of what I said please I fell off topic!!!!

But none the less these sudden pushes for global unity and protection of the ozone. It seems full of nonsense. They have been warned for years and now they take action. In a class I had we discused global warming. I believe in the early 20th century a volcano exploded in Europe. Now the ash spread in all directions causing a solar blockade. This created the 5 years of rain and a long winter. Now thats on a minimal scale by mother nature. Regardless of what we do the next disaster like that will most definitely re-accur. Its not all us but we are adding to the depletion.

Oh I like the links you provided MAUZ!!!
Posted 2/7/07
global warming eh?

umm its hot as hell, and then its below 10 and then its 30 degress.

it sucks, its an endless cycle of sickness and unproper attire
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im not to worried on global warming yet seeing as it is still getting to be in the -40s in some of the states arrogent? maybe but if it hasnt risen to enough where there isnt any notice of how much it changed then there really isnt much to worry about. sure i agree that we should cut back on pollutents for health reasons but for protecting the world? no the world doesnt need us to protect it. we will die before we can even come close to destroying the world so there iw no problem
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You know the term global warming is improper. They should state it as global climate fluctutation. Oh yea for those who said "global warming effects are latent" are quite wrong. Greenlan extensive ice sheets are rapidly decreasing. At this rate in 10 years global winter will be a reality. seriously alot of people act as if "it wont happen in my time". Are you retarted or something? You will live 20 or more years so cut the nonsense and get with the action idiots!!!! This is precisely why the rate is increasing due to ideas such as that.
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The Worst thing about global warming is its killing polar bears. YEA these poor creatures have to swim for food or something..normally 30 Km or something but because of the ice caps melting they have to swim farther and they drown. I personally would rather have it die on the land... it'd make a nice rug.

I personally don't mind global warming. If the humanity ended from global warming I'd acctully be suprised people would find a way and animals will to. So what ever happens...really doesn't matter unless the world EXPLODES!
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