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Religion a cause for World ills?, or a spiritual refuge that ascertain existence
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Well I do agree that the world is very sick and yeah..I do believe that religion is a big problem (Like Islam). Just that some too me are not that of a big deal. As for me..I am an atheists so I wouldn't know much about any religion...
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Well with the genocidal antic in mind that are being incepted within Darfur.Religion plays an extreme roll into discretional thought's as to why should we eliminate this faction or the protruding question does this comply with our religion.The Arabian goverment( Islamic are currently slaughtering African Arab's due to a falcified conduct , from the koran that in order to be of this religion one must be Arabic.(Pure).This is not the really instation of the koran keep in mind they are thousands of different inversion of the koran and many are corrupted and distorted.The true meaning of Islam was based upon Muhammad principle of equality sterning that all societies are equal.After his death though reformity occured reacerning the whole definition of Islam in accordance to the west.(Not all of Islam is corrupted they are still some of the original documents as well as varied sectated movements which indite in equality).


what did you hear this "pure arab" crap. and actually Islam unlike christianity and judaism still have the holy book uncorrupted. There is only one version of the Qur'an in the world anybody who tells you otherwise is a liar. And one last thing at the moment there is no such thing as the arabian govermaent.



I never said they didnt?.They are several serialized versions which differ per mosque(Usually).I know i actually prefer the Islamic religion over Christianity or Judaism.Nobody told me i just heard it from the new's an Islamic professor that they are some extreme versions from Koran its called the news<_<.Historcal books?.Try the Sudan Goverment and Moroccan Goverment.I know someone who lives in Morocco and yes its controlled by the Arabs at this moment.So what about Saudi Arabia? ermm a what goverment lol.That's nonsensical <_<.I agree that the basism for the Islamic religion has more purity then the other two religions that nominally stated , but intern their's also some enigmatic and extreme versions.


sorry, i missunderstood what you were saying about the arabian goverment.
but, you should know that arabs are a race. so i think it would be more specific if you said a country name.
As for the holy Qur'an i am 100% certain that there is is only one original version, which is in arabic.
There maybe a lot of translations out there in different languages, but just one in arabic, And it has been the same for 1400 years.


Your talking about the true Koran and i completely agree.Do to others personal means sand dieties other introversions have been created.I respect the islamic religion i really do.I just hope that the minority stop these tangible and feeble actions.


I am not trying to be disrespectful, but i am 100% sure that the arabic (original) qur'an has not changed. And it the same as it was when first revealed to the prophet (p.b.u.h). And i heard that there are a few qur'ans dating back to the seventh century that are still here today. Anyway what you should know that muslims memorise the qur'an as we see it as God's word. So any changes made to it will be noticed. Anyway I think we're going off topic. And i will end by saying that i respect your opinion, but i don't agree with it.


yes XD <_<.Anyways its more so factual thats their's extremism in every religion and even the Koran hasnt change their's still alias of the book.<_<
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This thread won't end well.
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meh.. religious threads will always be bloody..
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hmm i would not say religion, i would say more the corrupt people using religious people (because there dumb) to carry out a hidden agenda. well obviously not all the time, but some of the time. religion was created to keep people under control (read some nietzche).

go kill them for they have sinned against god.
rarrrwwww jihad

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I honestly hope humanity isn't stupid enough to escalate into war over something so trivial as religion ...AGAIN.
Posted 6/9/08
Religion is there as a last refuge for people in desperate situations. Following it can also lead you to a good life.
It also discourages violence, Most of the time.
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Posted 6/18/08
How can religion be blamed when it's humans behind it? : o
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Religous war = fighting each other to see who has the better imaginary friend.

Sorry, anyways, I'll be watching this thread for flaming. Come in ready for thoughts contradictory to your own, and be willing to discuss them civilly.
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Posted 7/12/08

manzi wrote:

meh.. religious threads will always be bloody..


i agree

it will be EVEN more bloody if atheists and religious people will argue with each other's beliefs
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Damn, I cut myself.
DAMN YOU RELIGION!

In truth, I blame the people who can't read the fine print in their holy/spiritual books which clearly forbids violence.


that's called RADICALISM
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Religon? yu cant blame religon. so yu sayin religon is tellin yu to make da world messed up? we can blame ppl who r so into dere religon dey can accept any other religon and thus be crazy. dats called blamin extremest wateva dey called not religon.


I can, in fact, blame religion. Religion may not say, in so many words "make the world fucked up," but when followed to the letter, that is the general result. All of the Abrahamic religions forbid their followers to "accept" the religions of others. All "extremists" are are people who follow their religions to the letter, without ignoring certain passages just because they are not compatible with modern society. In a way, I have more respect for the extremists than the "moderates," because at least they're honest about their religion being wholly incompatible with modern values. Moderates cherry-pick and only follow the verses that fit in a modern, humanistic, post-enlightenment society. Moderate Christians, for instance, will happily ignore most of Leviticus, which is one of the goriest, most totalitarian, human-rights abusing screeds ever written.

The Bible condones genocide and slavery, and is the source of homophobia, antisemitism and sexism. It is full of assertions which have been counter-proven by science, making it an enemy of science and rational thought. It is the reason people are trying to get creationism taught in public schools. Religion is the reason why Bush tried to block AIDS drugs from getting to Africa, and is trying to get schools over here to teach "abstinence only" education, which is a complete failure. It's the reason why gay couples can't get married in most states, and up until a few years ago, they could get arrested for making love in their own apartment. It's the reason women are stoned to death in Islamic countries, and gays are stoned to death for being what they were born as. I's the reason for the Inquisition, during which thousands of Jews, Muslims and alleged witches and heretics were tortured and burned, and is the root cause of the current Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Religion brought us the Passion plays, which were performed throughout Medieval Europe, in which the Jews are blamed for the death of Christ. These plays were usually followed by pogroms. Religion was used as a justification by Southern slave-holders before the Civil War.


Not every religion is like that...and honestly u cant really blame religion, but people's belief...as for moderates and extremists...the bible can be interpreted in many ways...no two people read the bible alike...as for your facts...they r all flawed.. peace over war
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JJT2 wrote:
...and honestly u cant really blame religion, but people's belief...


That sentence makes no sense. Religion is a belief.



as for moderates and extremists...the bible can be interpreted in many ways...no two people read the bible alike...


You do realize that you're admitting that the Bible is vague as hell, and is rendered meaningless by widely contradictory interpretations. Why should anyone base their life on a document which essentially says whatever you want it to say?
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Posted 10/5/08
iunnno...maybe becaue its their decision?
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WHITEbReAd wrote:

okay
im a christian
my gf is Wiccan, and im seriously worried about the afterlife/hell/etc. that well go to
so im kinda lost, and yeah.....religion CAN be blamed, but it really shouldnt be blamed for anything


Listen, there is no afterlife, there is not a Heaven or a Hell, and even if there was, she wouldn't go to hell just for being a different religion than you. Christianity is not the only religion out there, Even as an atheist that comment annoyed me.
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