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Should The U.S.A. invade Saudi Arabia?
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There is a growing assumption on the part of members of the US Congress, US-Saudi diplomats, and the American public that the Bush administration is making a “turnaround” in US policy towards the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia because of neo-conservative and domestic interest group pressure. Those opposed to the current administration accuse the White House of maintaining ties to an enemy of America in exchange for lucrative business deals. In contrast, those who support ties with Saudi Arabia maintain that the US has no intention of severing relations with a regional stabilizing force and with long term friends in the House of Saud. Who is correct?

Neither.

The US has not had wholly “friendly” intentions towards the Kingdom for the past 30 years. Any appearance of such is only the visible veneer of real US military policy. Declassified documents reveal that there has been a constant drumbeat to invade Saudi Arabia that has sounded behind the closed doors of our government. The Pentagon, for three decades, has formulated and updated secret plans to seize Saudi oil wells and rid the Kingdom of the ruling House of Saud. This is not only a neo-conservative cabal. Time and again plans have been made for an invasion of Saudi Arabia for a larger purpose: US control of the global oil supply thereby dominating global economic markets.

The most recent wave of charges that Saudi Arabia supports, condones, and aids terrorism signify a secondary and more public attempt to gain support to finally execute a thirty year old plan to occupy Saudi Arabia. Other regional players’ objectives, (securing oil supplies; the rationale of a "war on terror") may add synergy and an unstoppable impetus for an American invasion.

We should also note that Saudi Arabia abuses women , since it is under Sharia law (some of you will remembe the group of the school girls forced back into a burning building since they had no covering). It is an evil, evil, evil, and disgusting nation. We would all be better off if it was gone.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1874471.stm

I want the US to take over Saudi Arabia. We move our forces in Iraq, get Israel to help us, and throw in some big old missiles. Then we have control over all that oil, and can stop the flagrant abuse of women. I am speaking of course from the perspective of an American, and I wish for America to retain it's single super power status. In order to do that we need control of those oil fields.
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America has interests with our government Yes, all the world to him with the interests of our government, but America will not enter the long war long after Iraq and the U.S. army exhausted and wants to escape from Almaszew Iraq and Saudi Arabia will not have interests with Asirail and to be
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This will encourage a very old and it can accuse Islam and society because of an act of one person
What makes America great to be the governor or why Israel of charges of acts of the Israelis in Palestine, killing children and her mother and young Muslims
And making America great Is absolute freedom is the reason
U.S. still suffer from racism and the death of young people because of driving under the influence of alcohol and Sexual assault teenage girls and sexual harassment among family members
think forGod, we Muslims in a country suffering from these problems because of Islam
But already thinking also be influenced by absolute freedom
If there is the idea that must invade Saudi Arabia to save the people is simply misleading about the real reason is to control oil and U.S. economy Gulf
We also Lech our abuse of women, but Islam gives women rights more than any other religion is the first wants to make sure about it do not to the media, but tends to go and read books about Islam
I am a Muslim, Saudi Arabia and here we have no physical science in all respects
so just stop and realy go and read about as we war agood people,
We have many foreigners from the West and the Arabs and ther happy here and they love being here
so every body come to sudia arabia and see your self
its gonna be fun
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This will encourage a very old and it can accuse Islam and society because of an act of one person
What makes America great to be the governor
It has the most power.



or why Israel of charges of acts of the Israelis in Palestine, killing children and her mother and young Muslims
And making America great Is absolute freedom is the reason
U.S. still suffer from racism and the death of young people because of driving under the influence of alcohol and Sexual assault teenage girls and sexual harassment among family members
And Saudi has to deal with honor killings and burning little girls to death.


think forGod, we Muslims in a country suffering from these problems because of Islam
But already thinking also be influenced by absolute freedom
If there is the idea that must invade Saudi Arabia to save the people is simply misleading about the real reason is to control oil and U.S. economy Gulf
We also Lech our abuse of women, but Islam gives women rights more than any other religion
Wrong. Most religions give women far more rights, and in some women are basically equal to men (e.g. Jainism).


is the first wants to make sure about it do not to the media, but tends to go and read books about Islam
I am a Muslim, Saudi Arabia and here we have no physical science in all respects
so just stop and realy go and read about as we war agood people,
We have many foreigners from the West and the Arabs and ther happy here and they love being here
so every body come to sudia arabia and see your self
its gonna be fun

I can't really argue with you that much, since you are pretty much incomprehensible. Not your fault, since English is not your first language, but still.
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U.S.A should bloody stop meddling in other nations' affairs, that's what. The thing going on in Iraq already caused us a recession, how much more damage will it bring if it's with Saudi Arabia?
That is just bloody stupid. Saudi Arabia contributes about a quarter of the world's oil. EU, China, Japan, et cetera, will get involved if U.S.A were too ever invade Saudi Arabia.
The fact that Saudi Arabia is one of the largest contributors to development aid (to industrializing and non industrializing nations), tsch.

I personally would consider the U.S.A to be the most damned nation if they invade Saudi.
It's not only in Saudi that they abuse the women, you know. We have Amnesty International working on that.
Bloody hell. U.S.A is a powerful nation but it is not THE world super power. Having that mentality is similar to Hitler's. Goodness. That's almost like saying that Americans are the supreme race, which has NO basis whatsoever.

And why the hell would Israel help the U.S.A when they have an ongoing war with Palestine still? (T.T")
Bloody stupid. Absolutely bloody stupid. (-_-")
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Lol what false propoganda about Saudi Arabia lol. How about we just inviade every arab country just to be doing it while Israel gets a green light on terror. This is very laughable and stupid hell no USA shouldnt invade Saudi it is fucking stupid and pointless and will drain our economy. Right now we need to improve the American image rather then just invade them hell Saudi has Mecca which has a historical monument in Islam history that would enrage muslims if the USA did that.
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Lol what false propoganda about Saudi Arabia lol. How about we just inviade every arab country just to be doing it while Israel gets a green light on terror. This is very laughable and stupid hell no USA shouldnt invade Saudi it is fucking stupid and pointless and will drain our economy.
Oil money would recoup the cost. Not to mention we would be saving billions, if not trillions, since we would not longer have to buy from Saudi.


Right now we need to improve the American image rather then just invade them hell Saudi has Mecca which has a historical monument in Islam history that would enrage muslims if the USA did that.

Not really. We spin a PR campaign talking about how we "are freeing Mecca for the true Islam", and "saving Islamic women from vile misinterpretations of the holy Qu'ran". Or about how we need to "free the Saudis from their oppressive monarchy" (what we don't say is that we will set up a puppet state, and that we will delay letting it take power for many years).
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Dude do you honestly think we going to just waltz into Saudi just like we waltz into Iraq? Iraq is a damn mess, we are in Afganistan, and now you want to invade Saudi thinking it is a cake walk. DO YOU KNOW THE STRAIN THAT WILL PUT ON THE US ECONOMY? IT IS ARLEADY TERRIBLE RIGHT NOW INVADING THEM WOULD BE STUPID AND MAKE IT EVEN 100X WORSE, AND THE ARAB COUNTRIES WATCH AS WE JUST INVADE THEM UNDER SPECULATIONS OF THE USA GOVERNMENT BUT COMPLETLY IGNORE ISRAEL MURDER ON THE PALESTINIANS? Seriously Neo cons is the worst thing that happen to America. You guys want to send other peoples kids to die just to secure oil interests. Good luck trying to sell this war to the American people Saudi has never laid a finger on the USA.
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U.S.A should bloody stop meddling in other nations' affairs, that's what. The thing going on in Iraq already caused us a recession, how much more damage will it bring if it's with Saudi Arabia?
That is just bloody stupid. Saudi Arabia contributes about a quarter of the world's oil. EU, China, Japan, et cetera, will get involved if U.S.A were too ever invade Saudi Arabia.
No because we won't be cutting off oil flow to any of those nations, since they are our allies. The exception is China, but the solution is simple. With the rest of the UN security council all getting lots of oil (now that China is getting much less), they would support the USA, as it both lessens China's power, and gives them more oil. No one will do shit.



The fact that Saudi Arabia is one of the largest contributors to development aid (to industrializing and non industrializing nations), tsch.
Uncle Sam is proud to say that much of the money made from oil sales will go to worthy causes. In fact he wishes to say that a penny of every dollar made will go to womens rights groups, to make up Saudi Arabia's past mistakes. PR victory to Uncle Sam.


I personally would consider the U.S.A to be the most damned nation if they invade Saudi.
It's not only in Saudi that they abuse the women, you know. We have Amnesty International working on that.
Bloody hell
They fail and wast money.


. U.S.A is a powerful nation but it is not THE world super power. Having that mentality is similar to Hitler's. Goodness. That's almost like saying that Americans are the supreme race, which has NO basis whatsoever.
We are the world super power from an objective standpoint.


And why the hell would Israel help the U.S.A when they have an ongoing war with Palestine still? (T.T")
Bloody stupid. Absolutely bloody stupid. (-_-")

Israel is not in serious danger. True there have been bombings etc, but none of those rag tag groups can match Israels well trained, and for a nation of it's size large army. They won't pass up the chance to destroy their enemies the Saudis. That you can be sure of.
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drizza wrote:

Dude do you honestly think we going to just waltz into Saudi just like we waltz into Iraq? Iraq is a damn mess, we are in Afganistan, and now you want to invade Saudi thinking it is a cake walk.
Saudi is weak. They are protected only by their wealth.


DO YOU KNOW THE STRAIN THAT WILL PUT ON THE US ECONOMY AND THE ARAB COUNTRIES WATCH AS WE JUST INVADE THEM UNDER SPECULATIONS OF THE USA GOVERNMENT BUT COMPLETLY IGNORE ISRAEL MURDER ON THE PALESTINIANS?
I told you when you think of the Oil this is a smart economic move.


Seriously Neo cons is the worst thing that happen to America. You guys want to send other peoples kids to die just to secure oil interests. Good luck trying to sell this war to the American people Saudi has never laid a finger on the USA.

That is where PR comes in my friend. We bring up news stories like the one above, and talk of their flagrant disregard of human rights. If there is anything a hot blooded American male can't resist it's a woman in need. Then we bring up talk about how they and OPEc are causing the price of gas to go up. America votes with its wallet as they say. With a PR blitz the average idiot can be convinced of anything, as the ignorance of most Americans is prodigious.
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Invading Saudi Arabia would be great, but right now we need to fix Iraq first. The US is only friendly with S.A. because of the oil ties we have with them. That nation could jack up prices at any time and send the majority of the world into an economic cripple. S.A. Has disregards for human rights, has no freedom of religion, strict freedom of speech, and has a monarchy as their form of government. I wish people would stop bad mouthing Israel, the are a TINY nation with over 7 million people that are making that area in the Middle East one of the most prosperous places on earth. Israel owes nothing to Palestine. Israel belongs to the Israelis. If all these Islamic nations call the Palestinians their "brothers" then how come they can't spare just a tiny dot for them from their own land? It's all hypocrisy. They all hold Israel as a common enemy, and use the Palestinians as a way to strike against them.
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No because then we would have more trouble than we already have.
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Well Judging how the mainstream media has severly supified the majority of Americans I can honestly agree with you all the mainstream media has to do is attack Islam even more and make up stories about human rights in Saudi Arabia and the ignorant American who doesnt study, whose been brainwashed all day and never raises a question will support it. In reality I just hope this never happens because this can be the dumbest move we ever did. I dont think Saudi is weak man they are pretty rich I heard the prince is like one of the richest men in the world. Pretty sure they have a good military with all that money coming in from Oil and that country is bigger then Iraq so no it will not be a cake walk and can take years, billions and bilions of dollars to take them down. Man prices will sky rocket during that war and I dont want to live through that. Besides it is morally wrong to send other peoples kids to die for oil, then again they are already dieing for oil in Iraq and possible will start once the neo cons sell a war to the Americans with Iran using the same tactics as Iraq.
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geeene_16 wrote:

U.S.A should bloody stop meddling in other nations' affairs, that's what. The thing going on in Iraq already caused us a recession, how much more damage will it bring if it's with Saudi Arabia?
That is just bloody stupid. Saudi Arabia contributes about a quarter of the world's oil. EU, China, Japan, et cetera, will get involved if U.S.A were too ever invade Saudi Arabia.
No because we won't be cutting off oil flow to any of those nations, since they are our allies. The exception is China, but the solution is simple. With the rest of the UN security council all getting lots of oil (now that China is getting much less), they would support the USA, as it both lessens China's power, and gives them more oil. No one will do shit.



The fact that Saudi Arabia is one of the largest contributors to development aid (to industrializing and non industrializing nations), tsch.
Uncle Sam is proud to say that much of the money made from oil sales will go to worthy causes. In fact he wishes to say that a penny of every dollar made will go to womens rights groups, to make up Saudi Arabia's past mistakes. PR victory to Uncle Sam.


I personally would consider the U.S.A to be the most damned nation if they invade Saudi.
It's not only in Saudi that they abuse the women, you know. We have Amnesty International working on that.
Bloody hell
They fail and wast money.


. U.S.A is a powerful nation but it is not THE world super power. Having that mentality is similar to Hitler's. Goodness. That's almost like saying that Americans are the supreme race, which has NO basis whatsoever.
We are the world super power from an objective standpoint.


And why the hell would Israel help the U.S.A when they have an ongoing war with Palestine still? (T.T")
Bloody stupid. Absolutely bloody stupid. (-_-")

Israel is not in serious danger. True there have been bombings etc, but none of those rag tag groups can match Israels well trained, and for a nation of it's size large army. They won't pass up the chance to destroy their enemies the Saudis. That you can be sure of.



Objective standpoint? You mean YOUR standpoint? Ha. Please. Anything that has to do with oil and monopoly would not be easy. You don't need to bloody invade a country to "save" the women. As if that would really happen. Enemies? The Saudis? Oh,you mean the Saudi Arabians? Israel is not in serious danger? The fact that it's being BOMBED and the fact that it has a WAR, there is bloody well a danger there. Oh yeah they fail and waste money? Are you even aware of the changes Amnesty International did to Iraq? Iraq has lessened their bloody honor killings AND their government has now implemented the arrest of such. Invasion of Saudi Arabia, ha, you're obviously thinking little of them. They're bloody powerful. Stop thinking that the U.S.A is all that, because it bloody isn't.
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Invading a country because they have no freedom to speech, religion, I am sorry isnt a good enough reason to invade them. Saudi isnt a world threat they never threatened to attack anyone therefore it isnt in our interest to attack. If you want to go invade countries for human rights related issues might as well start invading Africa next and other countries that dont allow such freedoms. You cant sit there and try to Americanize the whole world if thats how that countrys government is just leave them be. You cant rape, murder, steal and get away with it in Saudi trust I been there, my dad is living there right now there is severe consequences for that, but the brainwashed idiots who watch TV all day think otherwise who has not even stept foot on the land yet.
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