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Democracy: Is this the best we have?
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Posted 5/16/07
The great thing about democracy is the ability to vote, but its always between two douchebags, so even that is flawed.
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Posted 5/16/07
well two douchebags is better than one..or fifteen..i think its france that has a party for..everything.
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Posted 5/16/07

red3finition wrote:


FatedEmperor wrote:

Also, the US is too seperated with its 50 states things, each ones with different laws.


yea but by allowing the states to run themselves under the federal government allows flexibilty within the country. i dont mean to sound like im so pro american but i am a fan of federalism and i think its one of the reasons the US is a success. it allows to "cater to many different interests" as some of you have said.


oh yeah??? than explain the civil war and the states fighting each other =p
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the civil war was said to have been fought over slavery..true but not the only reason. it had to happen. the southern states, though given the power to run their respective states, did not like having the federal government above them. they were pro articles of confederation..which basically divided the states into individual...areas tied together by a loose connection, without the ability to raise an army and levy taxes. i think the civil war was necessary to hammer down the constitution and federalism. what can i say. sometimes, conflict just gets out of hand. at least it didnt turn into a government overthrow.
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^^Before the Civil War, the federal government did not have as much power as they did today. That's why the South thought they could actually break apart from the Union.
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^^^"A little rebellion now and then is a good thing. …God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. …And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure" wrote Thomas Jefferson after Shay's Rebellion (Massuchesetts farmer leads an uprising against unfair US taxes).

After that the US wrote its Constitution.

I'm not saying that I support violence or civil war, but sometimes a little conflict is needed before any resolution is made.
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^hahaha. besides its not like the civil war was illegal. its in the constitution..if you arent satisfied with the government you have the right to try and overthrow, then establish a new one. its just that not everyone hated the union.

further increses the need of a brilliant document, such as the Constitution, to make democracy possible.
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Posted 5/17/07

cbisram wrote:

I have an inquiry as to whether Democracy (as is defined in North America) is the best political governanace system that humankind can offer the world. Can this form of Democracy be applied in the Middle East, China, or North Korea? What say you?


No this kind of Democracy cannot be applied to Middle East, China, or North Korea for various reasons. A few of the key issues making it impossible is the culture, religion, and the society's view on how they want to govern their own country.
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red3finition wrote:

^hahaha. besides its not like the civil war was illegal. its in the constitution..if you arent satisfied with the government you have the right to try and overthrow, then establish a new one. its just that not everyone hated the union.

further increses the need of a brilliant document, such as the Constitution, to make democracy possible.


I dont think anywhere in the constitution allows you to overthrow it. Any acts to overthrow it is a crime.

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Democracy is not a perfect system as with all other systems on the planet, that is because people are constantly changing and the times are changing with it. Therefore, the system itself has to change and will constantly do so. Perhaps some time in the far future there may not even be a system, and we will have all reverted back to reckless abandonment due to some unforeseen catastrophe.

The future holds many possibilities, and it is through evolution that this will happen.
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