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Posted 2/15/07

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FF7. But it's still the best.


No, actually it just happens to still be the worst.



actually your wrong....X, X-2 and 8 were worse than 7

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Posted 2/15/07

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ack44 wrote:

FF7. But it's still the best.


No, actually it just happens to still be the worst.



actually your wrong....X, X-2 and 8 were worse than 7

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tsk tsk tsk, didn't you get the memo? it's cool to hate FF7 now. not hating it proves you to be a poseur.
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Posted 2/15/07

kyocool wrote:


Sig wrote:


ack44 wrote:

FF7. But it's still the best.


No, actually it just happens to still be the worst.



actually your wrong....X, X-2 and 8 were worse than 7

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I agree that X and 8 were terrible games, and I've never played X-2, but I can honestly say without any doubt that Final Fantasy 7 was and still is the absolute worst game I've ever played.
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Posted 2/15/07

Sig wrote:


kyocool wrote:


Sig wrote:


ack44 wrote:

FF7. But it's still the best.


No, actually it just happens to still be the worst.



actually your wrong....X, X-2 and 8 were worse than 7

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I agree that X and 8 were terrible games, and I've never played X-2, but I can honestly say without any doubt that Final Fantasy 7 was and still is the absolute worst game I've ever played.


You obviously haven't played many games.

For christ's sake people, FF7 isn't a bad game. Is it overhyped? Sure. Are there games better than it? Of course. The main thing is it just hasn't aged well. Some games age better than other. For example, FF6 has aged very well. I'd say it's one of the best looking 16 bit games out there. FF7 hasn't. The graphics look clunky and awkward. The story can be hard to follow. The materia system is kinda meh, especially when compared to newer games. But for the time, the game was amazing. It's a page from a gaming history and a classic. It brought a cinematic level to gaming that really hadn't been seen on a console before. I do ALOT of retro gaming, and it's important to judge a game based on when it was released as opposed to how it compares to the current crop of games.

I think it became so overhyped in the same way that the Beatles did - just the right game at the right time. The anime subculture was exploding, and they latched on to FF7 and blew it out of proportion.

Ya know I think it should be a requirement that all these people who come out and bitch and whine about old classic games suck should be required to post what games they feel are better. I may not always agree with mushroomjay (though I usually do), but the dude does post his preferred alternatives for nearly everything and backs it up with logical arguments.
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How did I know I'd find a bunch of FF7 jabber in this thread?

Anyway, yeah, FF7 is overrated as all hell. I wouldn't blame "anime subculture" for its success since that didn't come around for a couple more years. It was just a decent JRPG that came out when there was a need for good RPGs, a breath of fresh air kind of thing.
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There is nothing wrong with Final Fantasy 7. It may not be the best game ever but it is far from the worst. Its all a matter of personal choice and opinion. Besides FF7 is old news anyway. So lets all get off this whole FF7 is overrated bullshit (which I don't believe) and move on to something else.


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Id say Call of Duty. I like the Brothers in Arms games a lot more especially in terms of storyline and characters.
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Posted 2/15/07

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Id say Call of Duty. I like the Brothers in Arms games a lot more especially in terms of storyline and characters.


I don't think Call of Duty is overrated, it's just that Infinity Ward and Activision hasn't really made any effort to push the genre to new heights.

On the other hand Brothers in Arms is probably my favorite WW2 game that I have played in awhile.
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Posted 2/15/07

azrael910 wrote:


Sig wrote:


kyocool wrote:


Sig wrote:


ack44 wrote:

FF7. But it's still the best.


No, actually it just happens to still be the worst.



actually your wrong....X, X-2 and 8 were worse than 7

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I agree that X and 8 were terrible games, and I've never played X-2, but I can honestly say without any doubt that Final Fantasy 7 was and still is the absolute worst game I've ever played.


You obviously haven't played many games.

For christ's sake people, FF7 isn't a bad game. Is it overhyped? Sure. Are there games better than it? Of course. The main thing is it just hasn't aged well. Some games age better than other. For example, FF6 has aged very well. I'd say it's one of the best looking 16 bit games out there. FF7 hasn't. The graphics look clunky and awkward. The story can be hard to follow. The materia system is kinda meh, especially when compared to newer games. But for the time, the game was amazing. It's a page from a gaming history and a classic. It brought a cinematic level to gaming that really hadn't been seen on a console before. I do ALOT of retro gaming, and it's important to judge a game based on when it was released as opposed to how it compares to the current crop of games.

I think it became so overhyped in the same way that the Beatles did - just the right game at the right time. The anime subculture was exploding, and they latched on to FF7 and blew it out of proportion.

Ya know I think it should be a requirement that all these people who come out and bitch and whine about old classic games suck should be required to post what games they feel are better. I may not always agree with mushroomjay (though I usually do), but the dude does post his preferred alternatives for nearly everything and backs it up with logical arguments.


To be fair, I played the game about 4 or 5 years after it came out, so that's something. As to whether or not I've played many video games, I've never claimed to have the most extensive knowledge of them, but I do have a fairly extensive collection of Dreamcast, PS1, Gameboy, and Gamecube games.

But all of that aside, a big part what makes the game so god-awful is the jackass fanboys/girls, which I'm not lumping you into. Seeing so many people turn into raving imbeciles when anyone mentions any flaws this game has actually makes the game a less enjoyable experience. Still, the game has so many flaws by itself that it's truly a hassle to play.

Two RPGs for the PS1 I have to recommend over this game are Chrono Cross and FF9. They're both excellent games, and light years ahead of Final Fantasy 7.
Posted 2/15/07

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The whole Final Fantasy series?
There are only two games that I consider as overrated from that series and that's VII and X.


Yeah, I would go as far as to say the whole series, the series is always highly praised by critics and fans alike and I've yet to play one that is half as fun as they're made out to be


I'm going to assume that you like to play mindless sports games and shooters which isn't that fun and is extremely boring at best.....
Final Fantasy XI was not highly praised by critics at all actually, since damn near every critic is a graphics whore they gave XI an average score whereas a game like World of Warcraft gets a 9/10 or 5/5 or 5 stars.........
So not all FF games are highly praised.




i play mindless psorts games like Madden , NCAA and FIght Night. I dont think thats very fair! :(


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Posted 2/15/07

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^^ Also the only problem that I had with Chrono Cross was the massive amount of playable characters......
Too many useless ones that did not need to be there.
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hahaha like Korchas mom and the mushroom man and the vodoo scare crow ect.


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Posted 2/15/07

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The only characters that should be there are the ones that have something to do with the storyline and a big of the storyline at that.....
Even though some of them were useless like Fargo....
Kid is a must and even Glenn had a part to play....

Characters such as....You know what I'll just name all the characters that should have been left out.....
Doc, Pip (He was sick with CanonCannon though), Starky, Guile, Luccia, Mojo, Skelly, Draggy, Greco, Janice, Macha, Miki, Orcha, Korcha, Orlha, Pierre (Insanely useless), Neo-Fio, Turnip, Van, Funguy and Mel.....
You see the picture now right?


now see i strongly agree with all of those except guile...because i honestly think guile is magus but thats just me


ohh and was it just me or did EVERY innate blue character just turn out to be beyond worthless!?...I even though fargo was kinda worthless minus his pillage technique

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world of warcraft
ive played it and its crap u spend most of ur time running around
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ya but its addicting

but its trickery did not get to me
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