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Homosexuality has been around for a while, and its never had any problems with mating. Hell, in 1900, there were about 56 million people on the earth. Now theres over 6 billion. Plus, I'll make a direct quote, "They called to Lot: 'Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we may have intercourse with them.'" Verse 5 of chapter 19 in the bible's Genesis. Whether or not you believe in God or not, this was written long before even Jesus was born, and that proves of the long lasting homosexual tendencies. And if we made it 3000ish years with homosexual tendencies, when the population was MUCH smaller, I HIGHLY doubt that we're going to have problems with it when theres a whole ocean of fish to chose from instead of a stream.

Edit: Also, I can't prove this, but under assumption I would assume as a ratio homosexuality was more popular 3000 years ago than it is now. Probably because monogamy was NOT practiced and homosexuality was widely accepted and commonly practiced, so commonly practiced that its in a religious text in the Jewish and Christian faith.



I can't refute that homosexuality has been around a long time. But it has become more prevalent and more openly acceptable within the last half century. I do believe that time will show that sexual freedom will impact the number of heterosexual relationships, simply by complicating the system and increasing the time it takes for humans to sexually discover themselves.


Maybe so, but like I said, now that our population is so high it wont be a problem. If we could do it when the worlds population probably wasn't at 100,000 with almost everyone having homosexuality tendencies I'm not worried about 6.581 billion with probably less than 10% truly homosexual.

Edit: Not to mention our life expectancy rate is higher, women don't die in childbirth even nearly as much as they did back then, and with modern technology you don't even need to have sex to produce children. My aunt had a son via a sperm bank.
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I don't think that there is any problem with homosexuality. My brothers roommate is gay! He's a cool dude too!
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Who cares what's going on in another persons asshole? if one is so insecure about their sexuality and feels like gay people complicate the mating game, then that speaks volumes about their own psychological weaknesses. A woman who has a hankering for the hairy banjo is not going to cause the downfall of civilization. This debate is so tiresome, idiotic, and pointless, most reasonable see past all this commotion. There are more worthwhile things in this world to devote time debating than this, its the least of humanities problems.
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Who cares what's going on in another persons asshole? if one is so insecure about their sexuality and feels like gay people complicate the mating game, then that speaks volumes about their own psychological weaknesses. A woman who has a hankering for the hairy banjo is not going to cause the downfall of civilization. This debate is so tiresome, idiotic, and pointless, most reasonable see past all this commotion. There are more worthwhile things in this world to devote time debating than this, its the least of humanities problems.


Agreed, to a certain extent. You could always be doing something more worthwhile no matter what you're doing. However, I take fun in these conversations because A. It makes you think B. It makes you prove your point (or attempt to) and C. It brings in more people besides yourself. Yeah, I'll also agree that its the least of humanities problems, but I believe that if you can't solve the simple things how can you even consider solving the complicated things? Not that I'm trying to solve it here, just saying. Nothing talked about here will solve a world wide problem.
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Back during the ancient Greek era (my bad) the male body was worshiped. Young men at the prime of their youths were taken on as apprentices for free. Well I shouldn’t say free it wasn’t uncommon for the youths to give certain pleasures to their masters if you know what i mean.
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What about recent shifts in gender roles? There are some women I know who who are (I love 'em dearly) way more manly than I am, and there are many straight guys with way more nurturing abilities than many girls my age.

Is homosexuality a cop out for not finding someone complimentary of the opposite gender?

Does it empower pure physical attraction too greatly?


I wouldn't call that recent. The more "manly women" have been around since... well, they were forced to work in the coal mines to survive. There they were considered on par with men for physical labor and such fourth. If anything, its your dislike of them that makes it harder, but you don't speak for the world. To use a common phrase "One man's trash is another man's treasure" As for the guys that are feminine, I can say many girls who find that "adorable" If everyone was the same the world would be boring.

Is it a cop out? It depends, from my perspective not really, but I guess it can be. Depends on the person. And for your final question, once again its all preference. Some would say yes and some would say no... in my mind it does a lot, but hey, so does heterosexuality. I mean, when you see a girl you typically don't think "Damn, I wonder if she has a nice personality" disregarding looks. You usually comment on their body. In almost all cases physical attraction comes first in a relationship. A lot of people are so shallow that they won't even talk to someone that they deem as ugly in interest for a relationship whatsoever, no matter what their personality is like.

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gopherthegold wrote:

What about recent shifts in gender roles? There are some women I know who are (I love 'em dearly) way more manly than I am, and there are many straight guys with way more nurturing abilities than many girls my age.

Is homosexuality a cop out for not finding someone complimentary of the opposite gender?

Does it empower pure physical attraction too greatly?


1)so what? your against guys being more nurturing?
2) who would just automatically turn gay after not finding someone on the dating scene?
3) and heterosexuality is so pure right? without any emphasis on physical looks - oh yeah except magazines, movies, tv... oh please

These sorts of offered refutations to homosexuality are so weak and devoid of reason they make me shudder at how one can be so gullible as to be taken in by them.

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lol, i guess more people where taken to this thread than i thought they would
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Alright! The game's up! If you've been reading the whole time, you know I'm just playing the devil's advocate. I would actually be surprised if I could be more tollerent (without being preferential) to homosexuality. And yes, I even don't mind when guys are making out right in front or me any more than a heterosexual couple.

The flaw in my arguments have to do with the good old American dream! Individual pursuit of happiness, baby! So what if you make it harder for others, you are going for your bacon! This isn't communism, this is capitalism, YEE HAW!!! And as far as forcing yourself into the standard gender mold, you aren't naturally frolicing through love like everybody else, pursuit of happiness! And yes, physical attraction is huge on all sides of the playing field, so feel free to chase it wherever you want!



Aww, and now the game is over. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. *high fives*
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ok, lol, so who here is gay, bi, or a lesbian
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Hey! All masquerading aside... I honestly believe that bisexuality is in direct conflict with monogamy. I'd even go as far as saying that they are mutually exclusive. How can you desire one mate of one sex if you desire both sexes. I think one has to give, either bisexuality is pursued without monogamy or monogamy is pursued without bisexuality. Bisexuality should be considered by most to be a temporary state (See: Can man live alone? thread).


Agreed assuming on the fact that you're getting married.
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No I think your getting mixed up. See you say they desire both. No, in this case, its more like they desire either.

I remember I quote I liked that went along the lines of ... To like a particular woman, one has to like all women in a way.
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lol, i guess more people where taken to this thread than i thought they would


This is a CR hot button topic
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It is more challenging if a guy loves a lesbian. Don't you think?
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"Gays are a very clean people, and they have been ever since they came from France"-Family Guy

Don't trust those bi kids. They are lying. They are merely varying their public appearance so they can have DL(on the down-low) sexual relationships. It was the latest trend senior year at high school. Right after emo.*shudder*
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