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Pakistani boy 'killed by teacher'
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islam doesnt say anything about killing/beating somone for not memorizing koran ,, so dont go offending it ya F**king RETARDS (no offense)
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snottyenglishgirl wrote:





Well at least being shouted at is the worst you will get for such a trivial thing when religion is involved

Also how is blindly following something when there is evidence against it around you a good thing?

If you start spouting crap about ufo's and conspiricys your an idiot but if you use the word god/allah/ect. you are an inteligent person with beliefs? How the hell does that even begin to make sense?!


a lack of evidence isnt evidence of non-existance. thats the first thing you need to realise.
the second thing is:

people have the right to believe what they like if it harms no-one else.

trust me, with the number of muslims in this world, if they ALL thought like that teacher we would ALL be hanging upside down from our light fixtures right now

just as you have the right to not believe, other people have the right to beleive should they choose to

its not about whats true, its about basic respect




Some people just go too far though have you seen, the "do you believe in evolution" thread? People are just flat out denieing a proper scientific theory with pleanty of evidence that has yet to be disproven because of their religion! If you can go out and SCIENTIFICLY come up with another theory, that explains stuff as well as that and stands up to tests to disprove it (a proper scientist tries to disprove their theory not prove it) then go ahead but letting religion blind you to the facts and denieing a proper theory just because of you beliefs is too dumb for words.

The truth IS important



thats their right.

and you seem to be missing my point
it isnt relevent what you think, or what the other person thinks, its that you both have the right to think what you want
they have as much right to believe what they like without being insulted about it as you have the right to think something else without being insulted about it


(also the theory of evolution doesnt proove or disproove the existance of a god and vice versa).


this is the truth
its not JUST religion that has caused so much harm on this planet
its peoples lack of tolerance, which clearly in my opinion is not restricted to the religious






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poor boy...stupid teacher...wats the point of being a teacher when you can't punish a kid right???!!
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snottyenglishgirl wrote:


Iduno wrote:


snottyenglishgirl wrote:





Well at least being shouted at is the worst you will get for such a trivial thing when religion is involved

Also how is blindly following something when there is evidence against it around you a good thing?

If you start spouting crap about ufo's and conspiricys your an idiot but if you use the word god/allah/ect. you are an inteligent person with beliefs? How the hell does that even begin to make sense?!


a lack of evidence isnt evidence of non-existance. thats the first thing you need to realise.
the second thing is:

people have the right to believe what they like if it harms no-one else.

trust me, with the number of muslims in this world, if they ALL thought like that teacher we would ALL be hanging upside down from our light fixtures right now

just as you have the right to not believe, other people have the right to beleive should they choose to

its not about whats true, its about basic respect




Some people just go too far though have you seen, the "do you believe in evolution" thread? People are just flat out denieing a proper scientific theory with pleanty of evidence that has yet to be disproven because of their religion! If you can go out and SCIENTIFICLY come up with another theory, that explains stuff as well as that and stands up to tests to disprove it (a proper scientist tries to disprove their theory not prove it) then go ahead but letting religion blind you to the facts and denieing a proper theory just because of you beliefs is too dumb for words.

The truth IS important



thats their right.

and you seem to be missing my point
it isnt relevent what you think, or what the other person thinks, its that you both have the right to think what you want
they have as much right to believe what they like without being insulted about it as you have the right to think something else without being insulted about it


(also the theory of evolution doesnt proove or disproove the existance of a god and vice versa).


this is the truth
its not JUST religion that has caused so much harm on this planet
its peoples lack of tolerance, which clearly in my opinion is not restricted to the religious








Actualy evolution does disprove religion as it gets rid of the whole creation part, Noahs arc (you cant get such a diverse amount of species from two of each animal that you can fit on a wooden boat without it sinking.(I wont even go on to mention the difficultys of how to keep them all fed, storing and actually collecting them) and fossils used in theorys of how different animals evolved are older than the world if you believe the bibel

Also whens the last time you heard of a proper scientist (one who tests theorys by attempting to disprove them) killing someone because they dont accept a theory?
Posted 5/30/08

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Thats terrible. That kid should come back with the secrets of the universe and inform his teacher that he's worshiping a non-existent God.


lol...he should....


god poor thing and all for a fucking koran lesson...for fuck sake he was only seven....the things people do these days is horrible
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Posted 5/30/08

Iduno wrote:


snottyenglishgirl wrote:





Well at least being shouted at is the worst you will get for such a trivial thing when religion is involved

Also how is blindly following something when there is evidence against it around you a good thing?

If you start spouting crap about ufo's and conspiricys your an idiot but if you use the word god/allah/ect. you are an inteligent person with beliefs? How the hell does that even begin to make sense?!


a lack of evidence isnt evidence of non-existance. thats the first thing you need to realise.
the second thing is:

people have the right to believe what they like if it harms no-one else.

trust me, with the number of muslims in this world, if they ALL thought like that teacher we would ALL be hanging upside down from our light fixtures right now

just as you have the right to not believe, other people have the right to beleive should they choose to

its not about whats true, its about basic respect




Some people just go too far though have you seen, the "do you believe in evolution" thread? People are just flat out denieing a proper scientific theory with pleanty of evidence that has yet to be disproven because of their religion! If you can go out and SCIENTIFICLY come up with another theory, that explains stuff as well as that and stands up to tests to disprove it (a proper scientist tries to disprove their theory not prove it) then go ahead but letting religion blind you to the facts and denieing a proper theory just because of you beliefs is too dumb for words.

The truth IS important



http://www.harunyahya.com/20questions01.php

ur whole bullshit theory of evolution.DISPROVED.
End of story.
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h4x0rz wrote:


Iduno wrote:


snottyenglishgirl wrote:





Well at least being shouted at is the worst you will get for such a trivial thing when religion is involved

Also how is blindly following something when there is evidence against it around you a good thing?

If you start spouting crap about ufo's and conspiricys your an idiot but if you use the word god/allah/ect. you are an inteligent person with beliefs? How the hell does that even begin to make sense?!


a lack of evidence isnt evidence of non-existance. thats the first thing you need to realise.
the second thing is:

people have the right to believe what they like if it harms no-one else.

trust me, with the number of muslims in this world, if they ALL thought like that teacher we would ALL be hanging upside down from our light fixtures right now

just as you have the right to not believe, other people have the right to beleive should they choose to

its not about whats true, its about basic respect




Some people just go too far though have you seen, the "do you believe in evolution" thread? People are just flat out denieing a proper scientific theory with pleanty of evidence that has yet to be disproven because of their religion! If you can go out and SCIENTIFICLY come up with another theory, that explains stuff as well as that and stands up to tests to disprove it (a proper scientist tries to disprove their theory not prove it) then go ahead but letting religion blind you to the facts and denieing a proper theory just because of you beliefs is too dumb for words.

The truth IS important



http://www.harunyahya.com/20questions01.php

ur whole bullshit theory of evolution.DISPROVED.
End of story.


A) There's no content there just an advert.

B) Judging from the contents of the advert it seems like it may be just a little biased
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Iduno wrote:


snottyenglishgirl wrote:


Iduno wrote:


snottyenglishgirl wrote:





Well at least being shouted at is the worst you will get for such a trivial thing when religion is involved

Also how is blindly following something when there is evidence against it around you a good thing?

If you start spouting crap about ufo's and conspiricys your an idiot but if you use the word god/allah/ect. you are an inteligent person with beliefs? How the hell does that even begin to make sense?!


a lack of evidence isnt evidence of non-existance. thats the first thing you need to realise.
the second thing is:

people have the right to believe what they like if it harms no-one else.

trust me, with the number of muslims in this world, if they ALL thought like that teacher we would ALL be hanging upside down from our light fixtures right now

just as you have the right to not believe, other people have the right to beleive should they choose to

its not about whats true, its about basic respect




Some people just go too far though have you seen, the "do you believe in evolution" thread? People are just flat out denieing a proper scientific theory with pleanty of evidence that has yet to be disproven because of their religion! If you can go out and SCIENTIFICLY come up with another theory, that explains stuff as well as that and stands up to tests to disprove it (a proper scientist tries to disprove their theory not prove it) then go ahead but letting religion blind you to the facts and denieing a proper theory just because of you beliefs is too dumb for words.

The truth IS important



thats their right.

and you seem to be missing my point
it isnt relevent what you think, or what the other person thinks, its that you both have the right to think what you want
they have as much right to believe what they like without being insulted about it as you have the right to think something else without being insulted about it


(also the theory of evolution doesnt proove or disproove the existance of a god and vice versa).


this is the truth
its not JUST religion that has caused so much harm on this planet
its peoples lack of tolerance, which clearly in my opinion is not restricted to the religious








Actualy evolution does disprove religion as it gets rid of the whole creation part, Noahs arc (you cant get such a diverse amount of species from two of each animal that you can fit on a wooden boat without it sinking.(I wont even go on to mention the difficultys of how to keep them all fed, storing and actually collecting them) and fossils used in theorys of how different animals evolved are older than the world if you believe the bibel

Also whens the last time you heard of a proper scientist (one who tests theorys by attempting to disprove them) killing someone because they dont accept a theory?


i didnt say creation, or 'religion' i said God. the only thing it might disproove is the creation story in the bible. but not everyone who believes in God believes in that. and a lot of people take the bible with a pinch of salt while still believing in God. theres nothing to suggest that god DIDNT 'create' everything by way of evolution.

as far as scientists killing people, i would suggest you dont have a very good idea about medical history, and the developement of surgery using mental patients and the destitute. also you might like to look into the testing of drugs on the african continent by pharmaceutical companies, then get yourself a good book on medical experimentation carried out by the Nazis in WW2.

and maybe you might like to not dodge my point again. the actual point of all of my posts to you and which im dont really intend to repeat:
which is that people can beleive what they like if they arent hurting anyone, and 'some' people hurting some people doesnt mean offending the majority is ok, or even good manners come to that.



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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7426980.stm

A student of a religious seminary in Pakistan's Punjab province has died after he was punished by his teacher, police say.

Atif, seven, was hung upside down from a ceiling fan by Maulvi Ziauddin for not memorising his Koran lessons, his fellow students told the police.

Atif's condition deteriorated quickly and he died in the teacher's room. Maulvi Ziauddin has been arrested.

Human rights organisation say Pakistani children are often exposed to abuse.


That is a horrible way to die


The teacher need to hung and be burn to death..



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blablabla9876 wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7426980.stm

A student of a religious seminary in Pakistan's Punjab province has died after he was punished by his teacher, police say.

Atif, seven, was hung upside down from a ceiling fan by Maulvi Ziauddin for not memorising his Koran lessons, his fellow students told the police.

Atif's condition deteriorated quickly and he died in the teacher's room. Maulvi Ziauddin has been arrested.

Human rights organisation say Pakistani children are often exposed to abuse.


That is a horrible way to die


The teacher need to hung and be burn to death..





you would be doing the same as the teacher
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Iduno wrote:


h4x0rz wrote:


Iduno wrote:


snottyenglishgirl wrote:





Well at least being shouted at is the worst you will get for such a trivial thing when religion is involved

Also how is blindly following something when there is evidence against it around you a good thing?

If you start spouting crap about ufo's and conspiricys your an idiot but if you use the word god/allah/ect. you are an inteligent person with beliefs? How the hell does that even begin to make sense?!


a lack of evidence isnt evidence of non-existance. thats the first thing you need to realise.
the second thing is:

people have the right to believe what they like if it harms no-one else.

trust me, with the number of muslims in this world, if they ALL thought like that teacher we would ALL be hanging upside down from our light fixtures right now

just as you have the right to not believe, other people have the right to beleive should they choose to

its not about whats true, its about basic respect




Some people just go too far though have you seen, the "do you believe in evolution" thread? People are just flat out denieing a proper scientific theory with pleanty of evidence that has yet to be disproven because of their religion! If you can go out and SCIENTIFICLY come up with another theory, that explains stuff as well as that and stands up to tests to disprove it (a proper scientist tries to disprove their theory not prove it) then go ahead but letting religion blind you to the facts and denieing a proper theory just because of you beliefs is too dumb for words.

The truth IS important



http://www.harunyahya.com/20questions01.php

ur whole bullshit theory of evolution.DISPROVED.
End of story.


A) There's no content there just an advert.

B) Judging from the contents of the advert it seems like it may be just a little biased


and none of the islamophobes and atheists on this forum are biased?
no,that includes testimony from SCIENTISTS and SCIENTIFIC THEORIES only,so u cant just dismiss it with a wave of ur hand.

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stareye_pink wrote:

It's totally .. nonsensical! >< That teacher deserved the punishment, for doing that kind of thing to a H U M A N.


makes it even worse that he's a little 7 year old boy. i think it's worse when children are killed because they are so small and haven't even really lived yet



I think precisely the opposite. The longer you've lived, the more relationships you've developed (in general), thus your death causes more pain for the living. Young or old, you're not going to be suffering after death, so the tragedy is in the suffering of the living.
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man.. poor kid =(
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h4x0rz wrote:


Iduno wrote:


h4x0rz wrote:


Iduno wrote:


snottyenglishgirl wrote:





Well at least being shouted at is the worst you will get for such a trivial thing when religion is involved

Also how is blindly following something when there is evidence against it around you a good thing?

If you start spouting crap about ufo's and conspiricys your an idiot but if you use the word god/allah/ect. you are an inteligent person with beliefs? How the hell does that even begin to make sense?!


a lack of evidence isnt evidence of non-existance. thats the first thing you need to realise.
the second thing is:

people have the right to believe what they like if it harms no-one else.

trust me, with the number of muslims in this world, if they ALL thought like that teacher we would ALL be hanging upside down from our light fixtures right now

just as you have the right to not believe, other people have the right to beleive should they choose to

its not about whats true, its about basic respect




Some people just go too far though have you seen, the "do you believe in evolution" thread? People are just flat out denieing a proper scientific theory with pleanty of evidence that has yet to be disproven because of their religion! If you can go out and SCIENTIFICLY come up with another theory, that explains stuff as well as that and stands up to tests to disprove it (a proper scientist tries to disprove their theory not prove it) then go ahead but letting religion blind you to the facts and denieing a proper theory just because of you beliefs is too dumb for words.

The truth IS important



http://www.harunyahya.com/20questions01.php

ur whole bullshit theory of evolution.DISPROVED.
End of story.


A) There's no content there just an advert.

B) Judging from the contents of the advert it seems like it may be just a little biased


and none of the islamophobes and atheists on this forum are biased?
no,that includes testimony from SCIENTISTS and SCIENTIFIC THEORIES only,so u cant just dismiss it with a wave of ur hand.




You sure? The only person I saw referenced in that introduction was the author himself and that was for such unbiased wonders as "the black art of dawinism"

Also (because I dont want to doublepost to quote her) to Snottyenglishgirl, I said about scientists killing people over something like a theory not as a means to an end for stuff like medical tests as while that is an evil it doesn't happen anymore without consent these days

(like we don't have the Spanish Inquisition anymore so I havent attacked religion over that yet.)
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Iduno wrote:


h4x0rz wrote:


Iduno wrote:


h4x0rz wrote:


Iduno wrote:


snottyenglishgirl wrote:





Well at least being shouted at is the worst you will get for such a trivial thing when religion is involved

Also how is blindly following something when there is evidence against it around you a good thing?

If you start spouting crap about ufo's and conspiricys your an idiot but if you use the word god/allah/ect. you are an inteligent person with beliefs? How the hell does that even begin to make sense?!


a lack of evidence isnt evidence of non-existance. thats the first thing you need to realise.
the second thing is:

people have the right to believe what they like if it harms no-one else.

trust me, with the number of muslims in this world, if they ALL thought like that teacher we would ALL be hanging upside down from our light fixtures right now

just as you have the right to not believe, other people have the right to beleive should they choose to

its not about whats true, its about basic respect




Some people just go too far though have you seen, the "do you believe in evolution" thread? People are just flat out denieing a proper scientific theory with pleanty of evidence that has yet to be disproven because of their religion! If you can go out and SCIENTIFICLY come up with another theory, that explains stuff as well as that and stands up to tests to disprove it (a proper scientist tries to disprove their theory not prove it) then go ahead but letting religion blind you to the facts and denieing a proper theory just because of you beliefs is too dumb for words.

The truth IS important



http://www.harunyahya.com/20questions01.php

ur whole bullshit theory of evolution.DISPROVED.
End of story.


A) There's no content there just an advert.

B) Judging from the contents of the advert it seems like it may be just a little biased


and none of the islamophobes and atheists on this forum are biased?
no,that includes testimony from SCIENTISTS and SCIENTIFIC THEORIES only,so u cant just dismiss it with a wave of ur hand.




You sure? The only person I saw referenced in that introduction was the author himself and that was for such unbiased wonders as "the black art of dawinism"



oh? and saying "the Quran full of bullshit" is fair and balanced?
read more, beyond the first 2 pages.And THINK for a change.

http://scienceislam.com/scientists_quran.php

i have a book written by these formerly ATHEIST scientists at home. Watch and enjoy.
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