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When will the Lee Dynasty be over?
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i'll be running for the istana hotseat in 2011. vote for me! i promise free goreng pisang to everyone if i get elected.
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lol..... i think i will vote 4 WP ba when i am 21 ... dunno mayb will vote 4 PAP bt 4 nw i will like to vote 4 WP ! ^ ^ dunno la who noes we might changed our desicions ?!
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well i want to tell u this, Lee is planning to make Singapore a completely CHINESE STATE. where all other race will wipe from this land. I would say this is not racial harmony, looks to me like rascist harmony. Those who opposing him shall get rid from this country even Chinese politician e.g Chee Soo Juan. I really dunno how they going to that, thats wat my uncle told me. We must change the party, get a new life. A new future for Singapore where racial harmony cann last forever and ever. Whereas Lee use his power to plan on staying alive the government, and let his children(Lee Hsein Loong)rule Singapore till the end. Lee is indeed a smartest politician, where he try manipulate the use of power to his ppl. I feel this is so unfair to malays and indians singaporeans.


Are you sure you are alright? Or are you joking? If what you say is true , can you give us some support or evidence? How in the world will you think that Lee want to make singapore a completely chinese state? To me that can't be happeing cause if you make other races in our country angry , the consequences will be pretty bad , Malaysia and indonesia won't let us off easily if Singapore discriminate malay or indian. One more thing is that our culture is build up due to different races living together harmony , hence if we get rid of other races , our culture wil just fall. By the way , why care if Lee dynasty will be over if they are good leaders that lead Singapore to grow? If their dynasty can bring Singapore to move on , I rather they don't fall . They made what Singapore is today , so we sould just turn a blind eyes on some of their mistake they have done and compliment on their acheivement. But then to answer to the question , I think their dynasty will be over soon cos there aren't any better candidate from their children to be the next prime minister.


i really dun have evidence on this, coz it came directly frm a mouth of a PAP grassroot member who dig out secrets of PAP. Also proof doesnt give a real proof as it can be fake sometimes. He knows well wat PAP trying to do in the future. Okay about the thing u said, i know that Lee Kuan Yew is a good leader which bring Singapore to new heights BUT there is a bad side of him, and that thing is state transformation. I want to tell u something, who control mostly the military and the police? The chinese right? You know y chinese, if it control by malay, coz in case of war with malaysia the malay high rankin officers may turn their side to Singapore coz malaysia are majority malays so they want to protect their original land. Its all making sense, Lee is smart thats wat i said, he can anytime contrrol the military or police for his own good. He can use ISA as a weapon to use on political enemies like Chee Soo Juan party.




I know about the military part , but that does not show that it is state transforming , it is just taking precaution. Look at our president , he is not chinese and alot of other high ranking post except for military and defence is non-chinese as well. Why do you think i say that we will be in deep trouble when we discriminate other races? That is because when war happen , other races will take the chance to fight back if we discriminate them. So in whole , It is still not state-transforming , It is just taking precaution . To show that i understand the military part, I like to state this, people in army learn order and command in malay because by doing this , if we really have war with malaysia(which is the most likely opponent if we really have a war , I did state IF!! and the % of If is really low) we will understand the enemy command and can counter attack using these command. By the way did you know why Chee Soo Juan hate Lee so much? He have his reason but his reason is really stupid , i won't go into greater detail . If you think Chee Soo Juan is right, see the number of votes that he recieve in the election. Even the citizen think he is just someone crazy. It is right to sue Chee Soo Juan , he is insulting without any support , if Lee take in the insult it will just show that the insult is correct , this will just bring down his status and status is really important in politic , without status people won't listen to you , will you really listen to someone that can't even protest a insult ? By the way i am not a lee supporter , but than I can't deny his achievement and what he have done for Singapore.

PS:Finally have some discussion forum lol , keep it up , have fun discussing this topic with you azera , learn alot.


Singapore is a chinese-majority country. Lee had said that by how mny yrs later, the population of Singapore will be 5.5 million. I bet that most of it are Chinese, and it will be total destruction for malays and indians here. Yah i know that the President is Indian but doesnt mean it safe, Lee can anytime throw him out of the post by accusing and anything that can throw him out, he dare to do that jus like the former president Devan Nair even though he drunked. About the case of Devan Nair, this wat it says: Devan Nair, the third president of Singapore and who was living in exile in Canada, remarked in a 1999 interview with the Canadian newspaper The Globe and Mail that Lee's technique of suing his opponents into bankruptcy or oblivion was an abrogation of political rights. He also remarked that Lee is 'an increasingly self-righteous know-all', surrounded by 'department store dummies'. In response to these remarks, Lee sued Devan Nair in a Canadian court and Nair countersued. Also, Lee has been criticized for implementing some harsh measures to suppress political opposition and freedom of speech, such as outlawing public demonstrations without an explicit police permit, the restriction of the press freedom, and the use of defamation lawsuits to bankrupt political opponents, such as Joshua Benjamin Jeyaretnam, Tang Liang Hong and Chee Soon Juan.

This is not the end though, i never talk about Lee nepotism
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I think we should pretty much stop this topic , as you say that lee is clever, he may find some loophole on all these post and ... ya even though we are sought of have our anonymousity in the web , we can be betray by our ip address.
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i'll be running for the istana hotseat in 2011. vote for me! i promise free goreng pisang to everyone if i get elected.


you're on dude... haha...
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I think we should pretty much stop this topic , as you say that lee is clever, he may find some loophole on all these post and ... ya even though we are sought of have our anonymousity in the web , we can be betray by our ip address.


absolutely....fear the gahmen... basically there isnt animousity on the net... so you really have to be careful with what you say... unless maybe if its emails.... but technology today has really helped big brother... i guess the topic heading is kinda... lol... well... i dont think theyd appreciate it... cos thats implying, or rather outright saying that there is a dynasty... you could get sued for slander. same with if you say nepotism. i wonder if you implied something, whether you'd still be able to get sued... and really... if you get sued, who pays the lawyers' fees? the govt? with tax-payers' money? or by the individuals. or would you get detained under the isa with no trial and no lawyers. anyway... i digress... in answer to the topic, it should end soon. the new leader shouldnt be from their family.... whether his name is lee or not is aother thing... lol... but one thing's for sure... their party will still continue with the majority parliment seats for a long time.... one qns i have... is whether once the mm passes on... will the position of MM still be there? and SM? or if a new PM comes to office while lky is still hale and hearty, will he then retire from his post?

oh and check this out:

http://www.mrbrownshow.com/2008/04/07/the-mrbrown-show-the-succession/
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Singapore is a chinese-majority country. Lee had said that by how mny yrs later, the population of Singapore will be 5.5 million. I bet that most of it are Chinese, and it will be total destruction for malays and indians here. Yah i know that the President is Indian but doesnt mean it safe, Lee can anytime throw him out of the post by accusing and anything that can throw him out, he dare to do that jus like the former president Devan Nair even though he drunked. About the case of Devan Nair, this wat it says: Devan Nair, the third president of Singapore and who was living in exile in Canada, remarked in a 1999 interview with the Canadian newspaper The Globe and Mail that Lee's technique of suing his opponents into bankruptcy or oblivion was an abrogation of political rights. He also remarked that Lee is 'an increasingly self-righteous know-all', surrounded by 'department store dummies'. In response to these remarks, Lee sued Devan Nair in a Canadian court and Nair countersued. Also, Lee has been criticized for implementing some harsh measures to suppress political opposition and freedom of speech, such as outlawing public demonstrations without an explicit police permit, the restriction of the press freedom, and the use of defamation lawsuits to bankrupt political opponents, such as Joshua Benjamin Jeyaretnam, Tang Liang Hong and Chee Soon Juan.

This is not the end though, i never talk about Lee nepotism


Sorry but I'm gonna go off topic here a bit...

I'm really sorry you feel this way about racial relations here. Is that really what you feel will happen? The total destruction for malays and indians. And do you really feel threatened by the chinese population here? LKY isn't that all-powerful to be able to relegate the malay and indian ethnic groups. Or even bring about their "total destruction" (which by the way, is very vague in its meaning). The people of Singapore would not stand for it. Might i also point out that a party must have either one malay or indian candidate contesting in the constituency if it wishes to stand for election in the said constituency. For me, i would rather have it that race didnt matter in whatever aspect of life, friendships, work, politics, education (of which it does in education, according to the policy which allows for free education up to university level, i think, for malays-and this is just to point out in case you forgot). In addition, I wish that religion didn't matter in politics either. I mean, obviously people have their own beliefs, and politicians carry their beliefs and principles which ride on these beliefs into parliment, but still, in the policy-making and all the other stuff, to not show any preference or discrimination against any religion, unless it undermimes the security of the people. There was one time when the current SM attended a funeral, a christian one, when he was PM; and when people bowed to pray, he kept his head up and looked straight. I was like whoa. Thats how a PM should be. He shouldn't show any preference for any religion. In the same way, he should, in public, represent the secular state this country is supposed to be. Basically, i wish we could all just GET ALONG. Respect each other and accept each others' cultures, practices; we've already accepted each others' cuisine. Or haven't we?
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i never notice that there was a problem...

perhaps i never really cared about politics...well i guess its eye opener for me.
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Later PAP come on CR. Haha. Theres a thought.

Anyway, I didnt really like the Lees at first. But seeing how well they are running the country now, I think its good that they stay in power.
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when the nxt election comes...
in the first place, I'm to young to vote!
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Lol later i get sexposed i die
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ai ya .. juz vote the parliement ?! or wadeva la i hab poor english arh .. juz vote the ppl dat u wan
PAP , WP still gt other 2 .. cannt rmb .. juz vote
folo ur heart we dun care
we oso cant predict the future
we can sae the future is on our hand ..
bt 1 thing i muz sae
wifout lee singapore will nt b nw so advanced ..
bt den i dun realli noe lee things..
when the election cums
who noes who will win
PAP WP or others
juz think
discussin this doesnt help
anyway this is juz ur opinion ..
if other found it ... and u actually sae sumthing insultin
guess wad
wad if dey sue u ?!
y nt juz kip it in ur heart or juz sae it to the ppl that u trust or family members..
dun nid to sae so much ..
well dats juz wad i think dun nid to care so much
juz stop discussin this
it wun help ..
worse it gets u in to deep trouble which u wun noe ...
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ai ya .. juz vote the parliement ?! or wadeva la i hab poor english arh .. juz vote the ppl dat u wan
PAP , WP still gt other 2 .. cannt rmb .. juz vote
folo ur heart we dun care
we oso cant predict the future
we can sae the future is on our hand ..
bt 1 thing i muz sae
wifout lee singapore will nt b nw so advanced ..
bt den i dun realli noe lee things..
when the election cums
who noes who will win
PAP WP or others
juz think
discussin this doesnt help
anyway this is juz ur opinion ..
if other found it ... and u actually sae sumthing insultin
guess wad
wad if dey sue u ?!
y nt juz kip it in ur heart or juz sae it to the ppl that u trust or family members..
dun nid to sae so much ..
well dats juz wad i think dun nid to care so much
juz stop discussin this
it wun help ..
worse it gets u in to deep trouble which u wun noe ...


well then isnt this a problem in many authoritarian regimes? where ppl dun speak out to protest and just allow he government to do watever they want. not dat im saying lee is being a dictator, or dat im gd at history, but we have to speak up to ask questions. especially if we are now "advanced" enough to know if voting he lees in are a gd idea.

then again, im not a great fan of the american ideal of freedom of speech, but there has to be a line somewhere. im sure if the lees are doing everything right and dandy, why cant they answer our questions? especially if we are "advanced" enough to comprehend it.
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lifesuc wrote:

ai ya .. juz vote the parliement ?! or wadeva la i hab poor english arh .. juz vote the ppl dat u wan
PAP , WP still gt other 2 .. cannt rmb .. juz vote
folo ur heart we dun care
we oso cant predict the future
we can sae the future is on our hand ..
bt 1 thing i muz sae
wifout lee singapore will nt b nw so advanced ..
bt den i dun realli noe lee things..
when the election cums
who noes who will win
PAP WP or others
juz think
discussin this doesnt help
anyway this is juz ur opinion ..
if other found it ... and u actually sae sumthing insultin
guess wad
wad if dey sue u ?!
y nt juz kip it in ur heart or juz sae it to the ppl that u trust or family members..
dun nid to sae so much ..
well dats juz wad i think dun nid to care so much
juz stop discussin this
it wun help ..
worse it gets u in to deep trouble which u wun noe ...


well then isnt this a problem in many authoritarian regimes? where ppl dun speak out to protest and just allow he government to do watever they want. not dat im saying lee is being a dictator, or dat im gd at history, but we have to speak up to ask questions. especially if we are now "advanced" enough to know if voting he lees in are a gd idea.

then again, im not a great fan of the american ideal of freedom of speech, but there has to be a line somewhere. im sure if the lees are doing everything right and dandy, why cant they answer our questions? especially if we are "advanced" enough to comprehend it.


who says the lees is not being a dictator, can't even accept criticism, don't believe, read this blog http://singaporedissident.blogspot.com/index.html
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ai ya
juz dun care so much 1st
as a student like mi
i shld concentrate on my studies 1st ..
nt on this issue ..
well i muz oso aware of this ..
bt 4 mi
nw studies cum 1st
so y bother discussin abt this ?
isnt this is like sort of the nonsense !?
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