Mongols led by Genghiz Khan Vs. The Spartans (b4 when they ruled)
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B4 u answer, the mongol armies were incredibly strong, as well as spartans, and please do no chose spartans juss cuz u saw it in 300, i get they looked awesome, but give credit to other armys that "could" (notice the " " ) have kicked there ass!!! Look in ur S.S txt. book an read up on em, then decide if u have no clue who the mongols or spartans were, or juss go to wikipedia/google
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The mongols definitely i will list my procurring reasons.
1.The commandant in the mongolian army was a amazing strategist who achieved many focals of conquering to do his evocative infuence.
2.The mongols also had a massive army due to the emergence of clans that were heavily rebelling against each other but are now allianced.
3.The mongols trained and enlisted several other ethnicities which would be indeed a true restoric point for their campaign.
4.The mongols also were very inventive with the usage of Gun powder and sysmatically using the Silk road for its primal aviated movements.(The Silk road is a huge vantage point if fully captured influence can be bestowed through out most of Asia).
5.The ascension of conquering and where to conquer thus establishing a strategy which is the first indigit point of creating an empire.(Tactical Fortitude, an epedemia of prepatory status,defensive positions, and when to attack next.)
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The spartans are a bunch of elite Infantry, Mongols were expert Ranged Cavalry. Furthermore the spartans were armed with spears (not pikes) and fought in a grouped formation while the mongols employed guerrilla tactics and would often flank enemies to surround them. The spartans are certainly strong but that is like trying to counter a gun with a sword. It just doesn't work.
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voidlugiron wrote:

The spartans are a bunch of elite Infantry, Mongols were expert Ranged Cavalry. Furthermore the spartans were armed with spears (not pikes) and fought in a grouped formation while the mongols employed guerrilla tactics and would often flank enemies to surround them. The spartans are certainly strong but that is like trying to counter a gun with a sword. It just doesn't work.


Thats correct thats how they imposed their tactics so unfeverishly against the Chinese.<_<
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voidlugiron wrote:

The spartans are a bunch of elite Infantry, Mongols were expert Ranged Cavalry. Furthermore the spartans were armed with spears (not pikes) and fought in a grouped formation while the mongols employed guerrilla tactics and would often flank enemies to surround them. The spartans are certainly strong but that is like trying to counter a gun with a sword. It just doesn't work.


Thats correct thats how they imposed their tactics so unfeverishly against the Chinese.<_<


Well the chinese were skilled archers as well, and when at a stationary post could take down mongol horsemen pretty easily. Though they didn't practice mounted archery and would be slaughtered when on foot due to the height advantage as well as moving faster that the mongols had.
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the mongols would have killed them. utterly annihilated them.

if you did even a little bit of research, you'd find that the spartans weren't nearly as invincible as they're portrayed. in fact the spartan phalanx was crushed by an enemies peltasts (spear throwers) during one war, and the spartan phalanx was defeated again by the theban sacred band phalanx during their war. thats right, thebans were stronger than spartans (and the sacred band was a homosexual unit ). the spartans have only had two truly defining moments in their history. one being the battle of thermopylae (the event 300 was based off of), and the other being the pelopenisian war, when sparta defeated athens. besides those two instances, sparta was just another city state, notorious for its military training.

anyways, the style of warfare differs greatly, and each has its own advantages. however, on an open field, on a dry day, mongol missiles would destroy the spartans every time, not to mention the manuverability of the cavalry that would easily set them up for a heavy charge from behind or to the side. they also have had a lot of experience in fighting heavy infantry (such as the turks and hungarians).

it would be no contest. the only case where spartans would win is if they were fighting among the mountains of greece, where cavalry can't be effectively utilized. but even with that advantage, the phalanx is not efficient unless it is on level, unbroken ground, and they will lose a lot of effectiveness.

as i said, it would be no contest. the mongols would wipe the floor with them.
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the mongols would have killed them. utterly annihilated them.

if you did even a little bit of research, you'd find that the spartans weren't nearly as invincible as they're portrayed. in fact the spartan phalanx was crushed by an enemies peltasts (spear throwers) during one war, and the spartan phalanx was defeated again by the theban sacred band phalanx during their war. thats right, thebans were stronger than spartans (and the sacred band was a homosexual unit ). the spartans have only had two truly defining moments in their history. one being the battle of thermopylae (the event 300 was based off of), and the other being the pelopenisian war, when sparta defeated athens. besides those two instances, sparta was just another city state, notorious for its military training.

anyways, the style of warfare differs greatly, and each has its own advantages. however, on an open field, on a dry day, mongol missiles would destroy the spartans every time, not to mention the manuverability of the cavalry that would easily set them up for a heavy charge from behind or to the side. they also have had a lot of experience in fighting heavy infantry (such as the turks and hungarians).

it would be no contest. the only case where spartans would win is if they were fighting among the mountains of greece, where cavalry can't be effectively utilized. but even with that advantage, the phalanx is not efficient unless it is on level, unbroken ground, and they will lose a lot of effectiveness.

as i said, it would be no contest. the mongols would wipe the floor with them.


Nice perifical sense.The mongol's also had better artillary due to the advancement of Gun power.As well as silk if used probably can be a strong protectance.
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MEMPHADON wrote:

the mongols would have killed them. utterly annihilated them.

if you did even a little bit of research, you'd find that the spartans weren't nearly as invincible as they're portrayed. in fact the spartan phalanx was crushed by an enemies peltasts (spear throwers) during one war, and the spartan phalanx was defeated again by the theban sacred band phalanx during their war. thats right, thebans were stronger than spartans (and the sacred band was a homosexual unit ). the spartans have only had two truly defining moments in their history. one being the battle of thermopylae (the event 300 was based off of), and the other being the pelopenisian war, when sparta defeated athens. besides those two instances, sparta was just another city state, notorious for its military training.

anyways, the style of warfare differs greatly, and each has its own advantages. however, on an open field, on a dry day, mongol missiles would destroy the spartans every time, not to mention the manuverability of the cavalry that would easily set them up for a heavy charge from behind or to the side. they also have had a lot of experience in fighting heavy infantry (such as the turks and hungarians).

it would be no contest. the only case where spartans would win is if they were fighting among the mountains of greece, where cavalry can't be effectively utilized. but even with that advantage, the phalanx is not efficient unless it is on level, unbroken ground, and they will lose a lot of effectiveness.

as i said, it would be no contest. the mongols would wipe the floor with them.


Nice perifical sense.The mongol's also had better artillary due to the advancement of Gun power.As well as silk if used probably can be a strong protectance.


i'm a history buff, i just know these things off-hand

and you're right about the silk and the gunpowder too.

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Bleachloverf wrote:


MEMPHADON wrote:

the mongols would have killed them. utterly annihilated them.

if you did even a little bit of research, you'd find that the spartans weren't nearly as invincible as they're portrayed. in fact the spartan phalanx was crushed by an enemies peltasts (spear throwers) during one war, and the spartan phalanx was defeated again by the theban sacred band phalanx during their war. thats right, thebans were stronger than spartans (and the sacred band was a homosexual unit ). the spartans have only had two truly defining moments in their history. one being the battle of thermopylae (the event 300 was based off of), and the other being the pelopenisian war, when sparta defeated athens. besides those two instances, sparta was just another city state, notorious for its military training.

anyways, the style of warfare differs greatly, and each has its own advantages. however, on an open field, on a dry day, mongol missiles would destroy the spartans every time, not to mention the manuverability of the cavalry that would easily set them up for a heavy charge from behind or to the side. they also have had a lot of experience in fighting heavy infantry (such as the turks and hungarians).

it would be no contest. the only case where spartans would win is if they were fighting among the mountains of greece, where cavalry can't be effectively utilized. but even with that advantage, the phalanx is not efficient unless it is on level, unbroken ground, and they will lose a lot of effectiveness.

as i said, it would be no contest. the mongols would wipe the floor with them.


Nice perifical sense.The mongol's also had better artillary due to the advancement of Gun power.As well as silk if used probably can be a strong protectance.


i'm a history buff, i just know these things off-hand

and you're right about the silk and the gunpowder too.

Same even though i havent read about the Mongols in ages.Im intrigued by Nazi Ideology.<_<

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Bleachloverf wrote:


MEMPHADON wrote:


Bleachloverf wrote:


MEMPHADON wrote:

the mongols would have killed them. utterly annihilated them.

if you did even a little bit of research, you'd find that the spartans weren't nearly as invincible as they're portrayed. in fact the spartan phalanx was crushed by an enemies peltasts (spear throwers) during one war, and the spartan phalanx was defeated again by the theban sacred band phalanx during their war. thats right, thebans were stronger than spartans (and the sacred band was a homosexual unit ). the spartans have only had two truly defining moments in their history. one being the battle of thermopylae (the event 300 was based off of), and the other being the pelopenisian war, when sparta defeated athens. besides those two instances, sparta was just another city state, notorious for its military training.

anyways, the style of warfare differs greatly, and each has its own advantages. however, on an open field, on a dry day, mongol missiles would destroy the spartans every time, not to mention the manuverability of the cavalry that would easily set them up for a heavy charge from behind or to the side. they also have had a lot of experience in fighting heavy infantry (such as the turks and hungarians).

it would be no contest. the only case where spartans would win is if they were fighting among the mountains of greece, where cavalry can't be effectively utilized. but even with that advantage, the phalanx is not efficient unless it is on level, unbroken ground, and they will lose a lot of effectiveness.

as i said, it would be no contest. the mongols would wipe the floor with them.


Nice perifical sense.The mongol's also had better artillary due to the advancement of Gun power.As well as silk if used probably can be a strong protectance.


i'm a history buff, i just know these things off-hand

and you're right about the silk and the gunpowder too.

Same even though i havent read about the Mongols in ages.Im intrigued by Nazi Ideology.<_<



hmmm..... creepy......
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MEMPHADON wrote:


Bleachloverf wrote:


MEMPHADON wrote:


Bleachloverf wrote:


MEMPHADON wrote:

the mongols would have killed them. utterly annihilated them.

if you did even a little bit of research, you'd find that the spartans weren't nearly as invincible as they're portrayed. in fact the spartan phalanx was crushed by an enemies peltasts (spear throwers) during one war, and the spartan phalanx was defeated again by the theban sacred band phalanx during their war. thats right, thebans were stronger than spartans (and the sacred band was a homosexual unit ). the spartans have only had two truly defining moments in their history. one being the battle of thermopylae (the event 300 was based off of), and the other being the pelopenisian war, when sparta defeated athens. besides those two instances, sparta was just another city state, notorious for its military training.

anyways, the style of warfare differs greatly, and each has its own advantages. however, on an open field, on a dry day, mongol missiles would destroy the spartans every time, not to mention the manuverability of the cavalry that would easily set them up for a heavy charge from behind or to the side. they also have had a lot of experience in fighting heavy infantry (such as the turks and hungarians).

it would be no contest. the only case where spartans would win is if they were fighting among the mountains of greece, where cavalry can't be effectively utilized. but even with that advantage, the phalanx is not efficient unless it is on level, unbroken ground, and they will lose a lot of effectiveness.

as i said, it would be no contest. the mongols would wipe the floor with them.


Nice perifical sense.The mongol's also had better artillary due to the advancement of Gun power.As well as silk if used probably can be a strong protectance.


i'm a history buff, i just know these things off-hand

and you're right about the silk and the gunpowder too.

Same even though i havent read about the Mongols in ages.Im intrigued by Nazi Ideology.<_<



hmmm..... creepy......

I just find it fascinating how phycologically derranged cynical a human can become ,its more so sociology i guess.
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Spartans.
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fagots...where is the facken movie Mongols... you shity balls...don't post the gay topic if your dick doesn't suck the movie!!! Fagot!!
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MEMPHADON wrote:

the mongols would have killed them. utterly annihilated them.

if you did even a little bit of research, you'd find that the spartans weren't nearly as invincible as they're portrayed. in fact the spartan phalanx was crushed by an enemies peltasts (spear throwers) during one war, and the spartan phalanx was defeated again by the theban sacred band phalanx during their war. thats right, thebans were stronger than spartans (and the sacred band was a homosexual unit ). the spartans have only had two truly defining moments in their history. one being the battle of thermopylae (the event 300 was based off of), and the other being the pelopenisian war, when sparta defeated athens. besides those two instances, sparta was just another city state, notorious for its military training.

anyways, the style of warfare differs greatly, and each has its own advantages. however, on an open field, on a dry day, mongol missiles would destroy the spartans every time, not to mention the manuverability of the cavalry that would easily set them up for a heavy charge from behind or to the side. they also have had a lot of experience in fighting heavy infantry (such as the turks and hungarians).

it would be no contest. the only case where spartans would win is if they were fighting among the mountains of greece, where cavalry can't be effectively utilized. but even with that advantage, the phalanx is not efficient unless it is on level, unbroken ground, and they will lose a lot of effectiveness.

as i said, it would be no contest. the mongols would wipe the floor with them.


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